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Landy Red
10th July 2018, 09:26 PM
So, here is the issue crew. I parked the old girl tonight at the shop, and came back to the truck to drive home, and I had no driving lights! I get home to troubleshoot (luckily a very short trip) and can say I have high beam (from the driving lights, and from the spotties.) I have park lights, indicators, break lights.

In park light position I have park lights, but push the lever, into the full position, and I lose everything. If I pull back the lever to ‘poke’ the high beam it fires.

So as far as I can tell, there is power getting to the lights and they are still working. There is no problem with bulbs or power getting to them. But, the problem is at or near the switch at the steering wheelÂ…

weeds
10th July 2018, 09:28 PM
It’ll be your switch...very common problem. The contactors don’t like the current running across them.

Landy Red
10th July 2018, 09:47 PM
It’ll be your switch...very common problem. The contactors don’t like the current running across them.

OK cheers for the info mate! Forgive my ignorance though, so from here, I take to mechanic tomorrow (no auto electrician here) and I say to him, it's the switch.. Anymore advice I could pass on, or ?

weeds
10th July 2018, 10:03 PM
Pretty straight forward job......

The switch easy to remove.....pull connector off the back and push back onto new switch.

Nearly every independent landy shop would have one in stock.

Mario on here is very active and would have one.

weeds
10th July 2018, 10:04 PM
Not sure where you are in Tassie but JC would probably have one.

Landy Red
10th July 2018, 10:14 PM
Not sure where you are in Tassie but JC would probably have one.

Thanks so much for the info. I'm in Queenstown. There is a guy in, Seven Mile Beach in Hobart (Britich 4wd) that I get my stuff from. I'll call him first thing and with the information you have given here, I am sure he will be able to help. Thanks again.

JDNSW
11th July 2018, 06:29 AM
It is almost certainly the switch, possibly the "multifunction switch". The system does not use a headlight relay, so the full headlight current flows through both switches. These are barely up to the standard headlight bulbs, but will reliably fail if higher wattage bulbs are fitted, and may even fail without that.

The solution is to replace the faulty switch (or both of them) and add headlight relays - just adding the relay will make a bigger improvement to the lights than anything else you can do!

ProjectDirector
11th July 2018, 01:47 PM
Does this apply for latest model defenders?
Reason I ask, I just checked the MY12 Electrical Wiring diagram file and shows relay driven headlamps.
I attached the relevant pages for discussion.
Cheers142161142162142163
Sorry Images are not readable am attaching PDF

alien
11th July 2018, 04:55 PM
Does this apply for latest model defenders?
Reason I ask, I just checked the MY12 Electrical Wiring diagram file and shows relay driven headlamps.
I attached the relevant pages for discussion.
Cheers142161142162142163
Sorry Images are not readable am attaching PDF
It still applies to the later Defenders(ours is MY12 also).
The relay supplies power to the switch when the ignition is turn on, the headlights should turn off with the key with the switch in the on position.

I fitted one of Drivesafe’s kit to eliminate burning the switch on ours.
Def-COMBO HL & Driving Light Wiring Kit | TRAXIDE - RV | Traxide - RV (http://www.traxide.com.au/additional-products/headlight-wiring-kits/def-combo-hl--driving-light.html)

ProjectDirector
11th July 2018, 05:02 PM
It still applies to the later Defenders(ours is MY12 also).
The relay supplies power to the switch when the ignition is turn on, the headlights should turn off with the key with the switch in the on position.

I fitted one of Drivesafe’s kit to eliminate burning the switch on ours.
Def-COMBO HL & Driving Light Wiring Kit | TRAXIDE - RV | Traxide - RV (http://www.traxide.com.au/additional-products/headlight-wiring-kits/def-combo-hl--driving-light.html)

You are right, on closer inspection the relay contacts feed the switch and not the the switch triggering the relay coil, ouch.
I will get Traxide ASAP.

Thanks

drivesafe
11th July 2018, 06:43 PM
Hi ProjectDirector, if you order one of my Def-Headlight kits, don't forget to mention you are an AULRO member as there is a members discount on the headlight kits.

ProjectDirector
11th July 2018, 06:48 PM
Hi ProjectDirector, if you order one of my Def-Headlight kits, don't forget to mention you are an AULRO member as there a members discount.

Thanks

Landy Red
18th July 2018, 08:51 AM
Well thanks for the advice again people. Switch arrived yesterday and I had it in within literally less than 5 minutes. (that was with a not quite two -year old 'helping' from the passenger seat.) Here I was thinking there would be soldering and mucking around. This forum has saved my yet again. I'll be getting one of those wiring upgrade kits too I think.