Springz n other things done to death

[Sith]

Ok here is my question .....

has anyone run TUFF DOG springs in their Rangie ?

reason i ask ......I have brand new-ish Old Man Emu springs rated as Heavy Duty ...
eyebrow height drivers side rear 520mm
pass side rear 505mm
driver side front 510mm
pass side front 490mm

Now remembering Im in WA , and friehgt is the killer .....
Kings say this is normal and they can make it sit level for another $300 , Lovells said they can just make it level and sits at 1.5 inch over standard for $300 ......

Someone told me the best rated and lifted springs are TUFF DOG for Rangies .
I got a quote on Scorpion Racing Springs of $750 a set 8O 8O 8O 8O

at this point in time they are out of the question but i would like a goal to set for the future

cheers

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">when taking measurements...always measure from the bottom of the
guard (wheel arch) to the bottom of the rim.....this eliminates the variables from the
tyres...(ie...wear and pressure...)......</span>

[Sith]

I was informed by 3 suspension shops to take the measurements from the center of the hub to the bottom of the wheel arch , this they said is the TRUE EYE BROW READING ......so i dunno just going by that


if it makes any difference all tyres are brand new about 3000km 235x85x16

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">all you are measuring is the difference in suspension before and after
on each corner.....

the lip of the rim is much easier to measure from than trying to guess the
centre of the hub.....
will give the same result in the end....just more accurate....(as long as the rims
arent all bent....)</span>

[Sith]

ok standby gotta get my tape again :roll: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">these measurements are only good to check how much lift you gain
after the mods are done.....

or to compare one side with the other......


for all measurements...the vehicle MUST be on level ground.....</span>

[Sith]

ON LEVEL HARDSTAND


from the bottom of each rim to bottom of the wheel arch
drivers side front 715mm
driver side rear 745mm
pass side front 705mm
pass side rear 730mm

so its still all over the place :roll: :roll:

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">is a hardstand the ground....?



either you need to put on a bit weight or get a lighter passenger.....</span>

[Sith]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
hmmm i was told by ARB when i asked that it was normal for Rangies to lean even with brand new springs ....weird i thought 8O leaning to the drivers side i can understand with the weight of the transfer , steering , ect ect ect

But Lovells and Kings said this was not the normal :evil: :evil:

the other pain is the prev owner had them brand new sitting in their boxes so i fitted them , and yes fitted to the correct sides .

Hardstand is the concrete garage in my driveway .

[one_iota]

And LR OEM springs are made with a higher drivers side bias.

www.members.shaw.ca/jbarge/springinfo.html

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">thats to allow for the weight of the driver....
there is always a driver but not always a passenger....
when wheel alignment is carried out CORRECTLY....weight should be added
to the drivers seat to simulate the weight of the driver before the alignment
is carried out.....


how many times have you seen that happen.....????
hence the emphasis on the word "correctly"......


any how.....if you were to sit in it and get someone else to measure....
the figures would be a lot closer.....may not be spot on due to age and some sag
in the springs.....but should be very close to even....</span>

[Sith]

Zook that was with me sitting in the drivers seat and with my bro in law measuring up .

Also i totally agree on the wheel alignment issues , there are only 1 wheel alignment specialst BARRY CURNOE SUSPENSIONS in Myaree WA he does that and also balances your wheels on the car at the same time ....

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by Sith
Zook that was with me sitting in the drivers seat and with my bro in law measuring up .

Also i totally agree on the wheel alignment issues , there are only 1 wheel alignment specialst BARRY CURNOE SUSPENSIONS in Myaree WA he does that and also balances your wheels on the car at the same time ....


<span style="color:blue">go take his temperature......he may not be well.....
i guarantee you that most wheel alignment places wouldnt even know
that to do the alignment correctly they need to first check and correct tyre pressures...
let alone know about ballast in the drivers seat.....



as for your springs...try swapping the rears left to right.....(they are
easier than the fronts)....
or simply fit some spacers to level it out....

or...dont worry about it and consider it normal.....</span>

[seqfisho]

Were the springs the same height left and right before you put them in?

[Lucy]

Drive it for a while, then once the springs settle, remeasure and then use coil spring spacers to get it level. It is what I am planning to do.

Have a look Here: http://www.4wd1.com/disc1%20coil%20spacers.htm

[LandyAndy]

Hi Sith
How about some hard driving over bad corragations to see if it settles???
Pretty annoying I would say.
Andrew

[rick130]

Don't get $crapiron Racing Springs, they have a horrible reputation on the Pommy boards. Anyone over there that has run Scrapiron has all sorts of problems with sagging, etc. The most respected and sought after spring on the UK boards is....OME :roll:

[Sith]

buggar

just wondering now about getting some Rangie Spares springz .....

just have to work for a year to pay the freight :cry: :cry:

[discowhite]

just put rangie spares springs in the 90.
let you know in a couppla weeks if or how much is sags.

phil

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by Lucy
Drive it for a while, then once the springs settle, remeasure and then use coil spring spacers to get it level. It is what I am planning to do.

Have a look Here:http://www.4wd1.com/disc1%20coil%20spacers.htm



<span style="color:blue">arb also sell spacers....and so should almost all the real 4wd places....
or the suspension places....</span>

[Sith]

I wouldn't give ARB the pleasure of ripping me off .
Will have a ring around and see if any of the suspensions shops have them .thanx for that


Andy took mine out to Mundaring today for a run up n down rutts and washouts , came home remeasured .............5mm down on every corner :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[LandyAndy]

Hi Phil
How much did they set you back???
What shocks are you using???
Andrew

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by Sith
I wouldn't give ARB the pleasure of ripping me off .
Will have a ring around and see if any of the suspensions shops have them .thanx for that


Andy took mine out to Mundaring today for a run up n down rutts and washouts , came home remeasured .............5mm down on every corner :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


<span style="color:indigo">go to your nearest $2 shop and buy a nylon cutting board.....
then all you need is a compass(to draw circles)....
and a jig saw (to cut them out with.....)....
remember not to use your best blades when cutting nylon....
it will blunt them....</span>

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:green">forgot to add....cutting boards come in different thicknesses.....
and if you need thicker still....insert a spacer on the top and bottom of the spring....</span>

[CraigE]

I like the cutting board idea. Makes sense, look at how long they last. We use a similar nylon in ore transfer chutes, a bit thicker than most cutting boards. Don't see many off cuts, but if I do they will be going in my shed.

I would have thought by now most spring makers would be aware of the different sized front springs in Rangies and compensate for that.

Sith, 300tdi RR, mmm. Geez I miss my Rangie. Might have to steal it back off the old man, If I can get my brother out of it.
Now one with a TD5, that would be interesting. Big job with the drive by wire though.

[discowhite]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>How much did they set you back???
What shocks are you using???
Andrew[/b][/quote]

$180 a pair, orange frnt and purple rear.
im using procomp es9000's 10.4'' stroke frnt and 10''rear.

phil