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Laurie 123
18th February 2019, 11:33 AM
I have been told that if one was to fit a bull Bar to Disco 3 there would be a danger of improper installation, where'as the Air Bags could be affected. Any one know about this?

loanrangie
18th February 2019, 12:35 PM
I have been told that if one was to fit a bull Bar to Disco 3 there would be a danger of improper installation, where'as the Air Bags could be affected. Any one know about this?

Not true or else ARB and OL wouldn't engineer and produce them. A home or custom built bar possibly but who wants to be the guinea pig.

101RRS
18th February 2019, 12:53 PM
I have been told that if one was to fit a bull Bar to Disco 3 there would be a danger of improper installation, where'as the Air Bags could be affected. Any one know about this?

So the thousands of D3s out there with bullbars have issues - just think it through for a minute.

As long as the D3 bar has the D3 compliance sticker/plate on it then there are no issues.

weeds
18th February 2019, 01:15 PM
Follow the instruction from the supplier of an approved front bar...all should be good

gavinquinn
18th February 2019, 04:12 PM
Where would the compliance plate be?

donh54
18th February 2019, 04:25 PM
There should be a visible plate or sticker on the bar stating what vehicle it is compliant with

Laurie 123
18th February 2019, 08:21 PM
So the thousands of D3s out there with bullbars have issues - just think it through for a minute.

As long as the D3 bar has the D3 compliance sticker/plate on it then there are no issues.

mmm yeah well this is information given to me by RJ motors in Katherine Says if not installed correctly can trigger air bags .Think he is after a bit of business. hehehe

loanrangie
19th February 2019, 09:53 AM
There should be a visible plate or sticker on the bar stating what vehicle it is compliant with

On ARB bars its on the inside lh side.

ytt105
19th February 2019, 10:35 AM
I think the RJ Motors man is having it on.

My understanding is that bull bar attachment could not possibly ignite air bags as they are set off via 'decelarometers' which I think are mounted under the centre console in the D3.

The main reason bull bars have to be designed properly is so that the 'crush cans' are still operational as the first point of collapse.

Regards

kelvo
19th February 2019, 07:49 PM
mmm yeah well this is information given to me by RJ motors in Katherine Says if not installed correctly can trigger air bags .Think he is after a bit of business. hehehe
The bit in bold is correct.

If you decide to substitute nuts/bolts for different spec ones, or modify a bar designed for a different vehicle, then there is a possibility the airbags could trigger when not required or not be triggered when they are required.

Companies like ARB, OL, TJM test their bars to ensure correct operation of the vehicle airbags.

So if you fit an ARB D3 bullbar to a D3 using the supplied hardware/nuts/bolts and fit it in accordance to the ARB fitting instructions you’ll have no issues.

Judo
19th February 2019, 08:16 PM
The bit in bold is correct.

If you decide to substitute nuts/bolts for different spec ones, or modify a bar designed for a different vehicle, then there is a possibility the airbags could trigger when not required or not be triggered when they are required.

Companies like ARB, OL, TJM test their bars to ensure correct operation of the vehicle airbags.

So if you fit an ARB D3 bullbar to a D3 using the supplied hardware/nuts/bolts and fit it in accordance to the ARB fitting instructions you’ll have no issues.

Can you explain this further please. How can substituting a nut or bolt cause an air bag to go off?

kelvo
19th February 2019, 08:25 PM
Can you explain this further please. How can substituting a nut or bolt cause an air bag to go off?
Say the correct bolt is a 10.9 and you fit a 4.6, the lower grade bolt could shear affecting the way the vehicle senses the crash impact, possibly altering when the airbags are triggered. The same could apply if the incorrect diameter bolts are fitted.

The lines of ARB, OL, TJM etc specify the bolt sizes and strengths for a reason.

Redback
21st February 2019, 05:52 PM
Another case of:wallbash:

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