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JohnboyLandy
26th February 2019, 01:57 PM
Hi All,

I bought a new rubber for mine, but my wheel is riveted together, so I was wondering if anyone has replaced the rubber on a rivited wheel ?? I have seen some wheels are held together with bolts, but not mine.

Any clues welcome.

Cheers,
John

Homestar
26th February 2019, 02:28 PM
Think I did this on a friends unit some years ago, but can't recall what we did in the end to be honest - Drill the rivets out and replace with nuts and bolts?

JohnboyLandy
26th February 2019, 03:28 PM
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, as there seems to be plenty of room for that. The other method I just read about was to just get a big screw driver and twist it to separate the two metal halves, then I guess you can kinda recycle the rivets.

Cheers,
John

gromit
26th February 2019, 03:40 PM
I've seen a few threads and they drill out the rivets (is it a rivet or does one side have the stems as part of the casting and these are peened over when the other side is positioned ?).

Have you found a source for the rubber wheels, I've seen them in Ebay it would be good to get some feedback on how the reproduction ones last.


Colin

russellrovers
26th February 2019, 03:56 PM
Hi All,

I bought a new rubber for mine, but my wheel is riveted together, so I was wondering if anyone has replaced the rubber on a rivited wheel ?? I have seen some wheels are held together with bolts, but not mine.

Any clues welcome.

Cheers,
Johnif you need rivits i have contacts in the uk jim

gromit
26th February 2019, 06:58 PM
Just had a look at one.
One side is diecast with 4 protrusions which have hollow ends.
When the rubber is in place a steel plate with 4-holes sits over the protrusions which are then flared, like a rivet.

To take apart I'd drill off the flared ends and it will pull apart.
To re-join you'd probably have to remove the protrusions then you have a choice of drilling 4 holes and using solid rivets, pop-rivets or small screws & nuts. There might be enough thickness in the diecast part to tap a thread so you could use some small screws to re-assemble (M3/M4 if you don't have BA screws).

Interested in any feedback on rubber wheels, I have a number of Tex-Magna's to repair.


Colin

4bee
26th February 2019, 07:27 PM
.......and if you really get stuck my still unused replacement was supplied by .....

Pangolin 4x4 @ Pangolin 4x4.com (http://www.pangolin4x4.com) Rubber Turn Signal Wheel Replacement Kit is Part#522882

I bought it some years ago but never fitted it because I found wrapping a piece of Velcro around the column then gave sufficient grip to use the worn out wheel.

You have now reminded me to pull my finger out & do it.


Pangolin 4x4 (https://pangolin4x4.com/item/47)

JDNSW
26th February 2019, 07:47 PM
I have not had to do it, but my approach would be tu turn up a wheel out of aluminium, and provide a groove to fit a suitable O-ring. Probably have to fiddle about a bit to modify the design while doing this!

gromit
26th February 2019, 08:31 PM
They are on Ebay
Land Rover Series 1 2 2a Indicator Tex Magna Rubber Wheel | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-Series-1-2-2a-Indicator-Tex-Magna-Rubber-Wheel/161716083795?epid=1388767584&hash=item25a7079c53:g:gBgAAOSw241Ymzqf:rk:6:pf:0)

I'd like to know if they are any good though....

I like John's idea, you'd probably have to use the diecast part & spindle then turn up a disc that rivets/screws to it with a groove for the O-ring. Glue the O-ring in place so it doesn't move but could be removed in the future to replace it.
Maybe a model supplier has a pulley that could be modified........something else to track down !

Colin

JohnboyLandy
27th February 2019, 08:46 AM
Thanks for all the input guys.

Yeah Colin I have a new rubber already, there are several ebay sellers selling them, so I probably just went for the cheapest. I can't imagine they vary at all.

I have seen an article where a guy uses a sink plug to make a new rubber for the wheel !!, but I'm going to try the rubber I bought.

I'll drill out the flared ends of those rivets/posts and go from there. Tapping a thread is a good idea, might give that a go.

I had my Tex Magna Lite housing chromed, it looks pretty schmicko !!

Cheers,
John

bemm52
27th February 2019, 09:07 AM
I replaced the rubber on my wheel but unfortunately I took no photos, however I do recall I didn't need to split the wheel to fit the new rubber but cant remember much about the process
Before you open a can of worms and split the wheel Google around got my how to off the net, sort of remember digging old perished rubber out and prising new one on.
Its still going strong after 18 months of indications, kinda remember the fitment how to came from one of the rubber replacement vendors, once again I wouldn't split the wheel unless really necessary,


Cheers Paul

gromit
27th February 2019, 10:33 AM
Thanks for all the input guys.

Yeah Colin I have a new rubber already, there are several ebay sellers selling them, so I probably just went for the cheapest. I can't imagine they vary at all.

I have seen an article where a guy uses a sink plug to make a new rubber for the wheel !!, but I'm going to try the rubber I bought.

I'll drill out the flared ends of those rivets/posts and go from there. Tapping a thread is a good idea, might give that a go.

I had my Tex Magna Lite housing chromed, it looks pretty schmicko !!

Cheers,
John

I read the instructions on the link I posted. The seller suggests picking out the old rubber and stretching the new one over and then getting it down between the two plates ! You'd have to cut out part of the holes in the rubber.
Sounds like a bodge but it might work as long as the rubber will actually tuck down between the plates......

Colin

JohnboyLandy
27th February 2019, 11:14 AM
That might be the guy I bought from, as I asked him for some instructions, and he basically said what you said.

I'm going to drill the rivets/posts and try tapping a thread, how bad can I make it ? :-)

Cheers,
John

Sideroad
30th March 2019, 11:12 AM
I know this is a bit late and you have all likely already done the job.
I used a broad screwdriver to lever the 2 plates apart. The riveted studs deformed to let the plate go and were able to be re-riveted back. I doubt I will get more than 1 or 2 goes at this before I would need to bolt of replace the studs with rivets, but so far it has worked fine.
I was too tight to buy the eBay rubber wheel and have used a plug.
I Bought a few types online and found one that works a treat. I have 3 other Magnas that need doing, so find a cheap option was needed.
I'll try to remember to take some pics later today.

JohnboyLandy
5th April 2019, 09:51 AM
I know this is a bit late and you have all likely already done the job.
I used a broad screwdriver to lever the 2 plates apart. The riveted studs deformed to let the plate go and were able to be re-riveted back. I doubt I will get more than 1 or 2 goes at this before I would need to bolt of replace the studs with rivets, but so far it has worked fine.
I was too tight to buy the eBay rubber wheel and have used a plug.
I Bought a few types online and found one that works a treat. I have 3 other Magnas that need doing, so find a cheap option was needed.
I'll try to remember to take some pics later today.

Thanks, the pics would be good. In the end I decided to not replace the rubber, and the old one works fine despite being a bit cracked. I might change my mind yet given what you said about just levering it apart.

Cheers,
John

whitehillbilly64
6th April 2019, 06:55 AM
Sliding doors have a grooved roller adjuster at the bottom.
Could a 'O' ring be fitted over the groove, and fitted ????https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/263677348734_/Sliding-door-security-screen-door-rollers-wheels.jpg

whitehillbilly

Sideroad
7th July 2019, 11:19 AM
I promise I will take pics on the next one I repair. I would pull my repaied one apart if I hadnt gotten it mounted so nicely already.
As nice as an O ring solution may sound, the wheel shape is much more complicated than that and is not semetrical. When fitted and mounted to the steering column it has an angled pressure against the rubber, so even if you could get an O ring to sit in a groove, the steering column would be trying to push it off.


Sliding doors have a grooved roller adjuster at the bottom.
Could a 'O' ring be fitted over the groove, and fitted ????https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/263677348734_/Sliding-door-security-screen-door-rollers-wheels.jpg

whitehillbilly