V8 Replacement

[mrapocalypse]

So if I was to put a different, more fuel efficient engine in my Dii, as oposed to the technically flawed inefficient v8 what would it be.

Right now to sell a v8 rover I'll be looking at a 15k loss so there is scope there.

Diesels

LPG

Engine and tranny transplant?

[tony]

LPG & Petrol

Tony

[rangieman]

lpg is the cheaper option by far and you still have a v8 and cheap running costs if you do big ks it will pay for its self in no time

ulp $1.35 a ltr
lpg 44 cents a ltr
diesel $ 1.42 ltr ouch

god i miss my lpg rangie 8O

[HSVRangie]

http://www.nav-international.com.br/Motore...p?Idioma=2&Id=4 (http://www.nav-international.com.br/Motores.asp?Idioma=2&Id=4)

Michael.

[jase]

thanks HSV rangie (you saved me "spamming")
I import the HS2.8 to oz any info anyone needs let me know
Jase

FYI if you don't know its basically a hot rod 300 tdi so can be bolted anywhere a 300tdi could fit https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
NO computer https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
same HP & torque as 4.6 V8 8) at waaay lower RPM 8)
$10k inc GST 8O
have 2 sitting on floor for imidate delivery https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[101RRS]

Originally posted by jase

same HP & torque as 4.6 V8 8)

What is the power and torque of your 2.8? Same as a 4.6 V8?

Gazz

[jase]

the 2.8 factory specs are
Max Power 135 HP @ 3800 RPM
Max torque 277 lbf ft @ 1400 rpm 8)
also these figures can easily be turned up in 10 mins with a spanner (no ecu to upgrade 8) )

Jase
2.8 importer

[matbor]

Jase, have u finished installing your one in your p38 ?

[jase]

still waiting for bloody mecahnic https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (I know someone will tell him I'm bagging him here, but that's ok I tell him also https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )
he is doing the major nuts & bolts install,
I'm only doing fiddly bits (intercooler, exhaust, throttle cable ect ect) once he's finished (the intercooler is already in and half piped)

he's been to busy wiyth other peoples jobs https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
stop taking your landrovers there, :evil: I want him to do mine first

He's also got my 110 sitting there for over a month, it only needs a few hrs work but he's to busy https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
take my advise if you need something done as a quick don't use a freind who is a mechanic https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Jase

[101RRS]

Originally posted by jase
the 2.8 factory specs are
Max Power 135 HP @ 3800 RPM
Max torque 277 lbf ft @ 1400 rpm 8)
also these figures can easily be turned up in 10 mins with a spanner (no ecu to upgrade 8) )

Jase
2.8 importer

Did a google

2.8 97kw/3800 rpm; 355nm/1600 rpm

4.6 157kw/4750; 358nm/3000 rpm

Can accept your claims for torque but a standad 2.8 has no where near the power of a standard 4.6.

Gazz

[mrapocalypse]

A mate of mine who runs a lot of taxis says that LPG is a lot of trouble, you get less mileage out of the huge tank and maybe it wont be that much cheaper for long!

BUT, you can't just bolt any old engine into the DII> It's hooked up to the electronic tranny, and all the widgets. I would be happy to be rid of the electronics but there's no way with a 2.8 diesel I'm going to morph it into the lr, with a gear box and ancillaries for under 15k. Call me crazy....

How would you find out if a TD5 transmission is the same as for the V8, I'm running the Auto. OR,

has anybody been running a post 2000 v8 LR on LPG and what's it like. I hear nothing but problems.


This is an issue we are going to deal with in a big way.

Australia could end up like Cuba, lots of old, beaten up 4x4's with motorcycle engines in them.

[jase]

hmmmm :oops:
I stand corrected on the 4.6 vs 2.8 power :oops:
(thats what I get for repeating what i'm told without checking first)
did you notice the max torque RPMs 8)

I'll let you know how the electronic auto handles the non electronic engine shortly (as soon as my mechanic gets into my job :? ) I'm putting a 2.8 into the wifes P38 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Jase
PS I know the crazy poms are turning up 2.8s to this (200hp+) sort of power figure 8O also gives them over 400 nm 8O
I'm waiting to see how long it lasts (fingers crossed)

[mrapocalypse]

Does a P38 have similar brain function to a DII ?

[pgf]

FWIW, I have a 2000 dII on dual fuel. My reaserach showed that early kits has probs, but the new ones like mine (18mths in now), work like a top. I get about 20% less fuel economy when working the engine, but only 10% when putting around. Overall there would be a 10% power drop. My tank is only 50 odd usable litres but its gets me by. at $2.500 appx to set up I expect to break even around 35000km. Very happy overall.

P

[mrapocalypse]

Are you in Brisbane, Who did your conversion and did you go scuba tanks or one big petrol tank replacement?

What about a chip upgrade.

At $1.40/l you can now justify the cost over a much shorter period!

I saw a TD5 on ebay yesterday for $6000. I would estimate there's another 5 or 6 grand to install. I'm off that. At least with an additional gas and fuel tank you get extended range and cheap gas!

Ian