Tdi Longevity

[one_iota]

Tdi's (both 200 and 300) have been around for nearly two decades.

Prompted by a question posted on Outer Limits I thought it would be interesting to get some idea of the ages of Tdi's around.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/...9b388edacc7a9aa (http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php't=73955&sid=9e238a5a788d65e329b388edacc7a9aa)

Might be handy to also know if it is a 200 or 300 and if it is in need of a rebuild or has been rebuilt.....as well as any other relevant views.

(Any chance of a temporary "sticky" on this Inc?)

[one_iota]

Mine has done nearly 160 k.

Rebuilt at 40 k due to over heating. :cry:

Going very nicely thank you with regular servicing (oil and filter at 5000 km)

[George130]

I voted but I don't have a TDI

[one_iota]

Originally posted by George130
I voted but I don't have a TDI

Well that worked https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

It is a problem with polls that people who are interested aren't able to see the poll results because they aren't given the option to be a bystander. :wink: :roll:

[DiscoDan]

Coming up to 200k 197k to be exact and still giving 10.5 l/100km

Its ok but a little slow.

Cheaper for cooling system parts than most other 4wds, but it does chew out lift pumps (now on third) belt tensioners (on second but needs a new one) and timing belts (at the 1/2 life of the third belt). Also needs injectors but these need to be replaced as told they can not be rebuilt.

Some times i wonder if i would be better off in a V8,

Has anyone done this on a V8 or TD5?

[rangieman]

well ive only had my 300 Tdi defender for 4 months and as far as i know and going by the service record and its previous owner its never even had the head off

200.000 ks not using a drop of oil between each service https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[abaddonxi]

Just a general feeling I've been having from comments on the site, and my own experience, that it isn't that uncommon for injector pump to go just past 200kk. There have also been a fair number of other major issues coming up at about that mark.

Or so it seems to me.

Also, judging from the comments about fuel economy, there's a tiny margin of difference driving a brick with a roofrack, spotties, extra weight onboard, etc. I wonder if the variations that people have reported are more related to servicing and the work the engine has done.

Mine has had the head off before it came to me, well-documented injection pump replaced, and is looking at a gearbox rebuild in the next few days/weeks. I can't think of a way that the injection pump would be affected by hard work/poor service intervals; I'm reasonably sure the head and the gearbox were.

Cheers
Simon

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by George130
I voted but I don't have a TDI


<span style="color:blue">ditto.....</span>

[seqfisho]

The Disco 99
157K for mine and Ive had it for the last 25K and apart from the issue of the coolant tank split issue and alternator at 150K everything else is ok (touch wood)

5000km oil changes with penrite HPR15 used each time, small oil consumption about 300ml or so between changes

95 Fender
From near new (5000km) no issues with motor but found out that at 82K (about 7K after I sold it) the timing belt let go 8O 8O 8O it was before LR started the 80K then 60K change intervals

97 Fender
Belt and update housing fitted at 50K and only other issue was a lift pump around 80K or so, sold at 140K no other issues heard from the new buyer although it did go to SA

Always have done 5K oils and until the disco used to use Castrol RX Super or Shell Rimula X

Really I've got to sya that for me they had been a great little donk :wink:

[incisor]

mine has 211,000 + and never (touching wood while saying) had anything other than regular service items including timing belts etc etc

5000k oil + filter changes

a client of mine has a 97tdi disco that has 400,000 + on it and it threw a crankshaft pulley at approx 300000 from memory, $1500+ for the fix. it is considerably slower off the mark than mine but starts first time everytime.

[Lindsay]

98 300tdi auto
117000km
I've had it for last 20k
Head off before I got it to fix coolant leak from head gasket before any o-heating happened.
I havent had any significant mech probs-but just had the injector tweaked-much nicer to drive.

Lindsay

[weeds]

Doing an oil change toomorrow with 214k on the clock, doent use a drop of oil between changes,

Previous owner had the head off chasing an overheating problem, apparently it was the temp gauge, its had the timing belt/pullies upgraded.

I'm the third owner and have had it for 25k, starter motor packed it in 5k ago other than that all is good. Have had the motor tweeked. Fingers crossed for another 100k of trouble free motoring.

[Coastie]

Had my 300tdi for 190000 of its 225000 k's. No engine repair work done, except radiator and hoses and all idler bearings for fan belts due to cow incident.

Split header tank, leaking P gasket.
Sagging hood lining, Spots of rust in alpine windows, that happens on the coast.
Output shaft upgrade during warranty period.

Excellent car averages around the 10-11L/100Km suburban driving for the whole of its life. Even with all its little problems to be fixed its still a favourite to drive on short or long trips.

[jase]

my 94 disco had 345,000 ish kms wahen I sold it https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
I had head off at 320kms (did a head gasket) bores still had hash marks 8O
(had head pressure tested, head was cracked https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ ) fitted new head
all good
Jase

PS fuelling was turned up for last 70,000kms also
Jase

[Scouse]

Originally posted by one_iota
It is a problem with polls that people who are interested aren't able to see the poll results because they aren't given the option to be a bystander. :wink: :roll:Yes they can - just click on View Results below "Submit Vote".

BTW, I didn't vote as I can see the results https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ .

[JDNSW]

Originally posted by abaddonxi
Just a general feeling I've been having from comments on the site, and my own experience, that it isn't that uncommon for injector pump to go just past 200kk. There have also been a fair number of other major issues coming up at about that mark.

Or so it seems to me.

Also, judging from the comments about fuel economy, there's a tiny margin of difference driving a brick with a roofrack, spotties, extra weight onboard, etc. I wonder if the variations that people have reported are more related to servicing and the work the engine has done.

Mine has had the head off before it came to me, well-documented injection pump replaced, and is looking at a gearbox rebuild in the next few days/weeks. I can't think of a way that the injection pump would be affected by hard work/poor service intervals; I'm reasonably sure the head and the gearbox were.

Cheers
Simon

I suspect you're right about the work done affecting the life as well as service (not) done. But my view is that the major factor affecting injection pump will be fuel quality and cleanliness. You can change the filters, but quality is largely beyond the user's control (or knowledge). Although in theory dust and water should not get past the filters, in practice no filter is perfect, and in dusty conditions or with water contaminated fuel, I'll bet some gets as far as the pump.
John

[JamesH]

I bought my 96 300Tdi Defender at 114k but I have known it since new.

The timing belt went at 88k but apart from that it has been good. It has done just over 150k but I have the lift pump done. While the engine is out for panel beating they are redoing the core plugs, cooling system and some clutch bits.

Has been off the road since it's meeting with a rock on 13 February. Fuel economy since then has been perfect. Fule price hike, what fuel price hike?

[waynep]

There was no option for less than 100,000 Km so I couldn't vote.

My 97 has only done 90,000
First owner only only did 35,000 on it !
I bought it in 2003.

[Defender200Tdi]

Well my 1992 Defender has only done 172,000km. Only just run in by Tdi standards I think. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by JamesH

Has been off the road since it's meeting with a rock on 13 February. Fuel economy since then has been perfect. Fule price hike, what fuel price hike?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

DiscoDan Said--

Also needs injectors but these need to be replaced as told they can not be rebuilt.

Some times i wonder if i would be better off in a V8,

Has anyone done this on a V8 or TD5?

nope, but had mine professionally cleaned (3 times I was told) after getting a tank full of muddy fuel.
It was running fine before at over 270,000 kays.

funny how the fuel pump karked it 2 weeks later,, and do you think the servo would cough up for it :roll:

[Olfella]

Have 95 TDi which now has 505.000 Km on clock. Oil changes 5K, filter
10K. Still nil oil consumption. Replaced injectors 450K but originals still good pattern but pressures down.
lift pump replaced 400K due to oil leak.
Replaced 1 water pump.
Belts every 80K and thats it.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

It appears the POL underestimated the
longeveity of the landrover diesel--- https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[skip]

Morning all,

I have a 10/96 300tdi def. Ten years old this year! 198,000 owned since new. All running beautifully and as its off on a 10K + trip next month.

Whats happened? Not much really.
As per other listers oil and filter every 5K, currently using Penrite HPR diesel 15. Oil use well within limits.

Had 4 new injectors and pump rebuild at 185K. New injectors are about $200, alot cheaper than you'd expect. Still doing 10 L/100km.
Just had its 1st water pump as I had to replace the P gasket so I thought prevention was better than cure. One lift pump, only dripping at 170K. Never had the head off. Did replace a few rockers not long ago as the hardening was breaking up. Cheap bit.
One day whilst bored I pulled the whole front of the engine off to check out the oil pump. At 160K the minimum gap between the teeth/vanes on the oil pump were still nice and tight as per the book. While resealing the sump I popped off a few main bearing shells as well for a look. Just the right amount of wear and polishing of the shells. Nice. Proves oil is cheaper than rebuilds!

A good friend has a 300tdi disco with over 300k on it. He had a big once over service done at Coopers. One interesting thing found was the cam needed replacing as the hardening was all shot at the lift pump. Besides that it was all good.

I think another ten years out of it will be no drama.

Skip

[pug303]

Hi, 95 tdi with 240,000 on it. Oil and filter every 5,000 since new.

Power improved (bigger intercooler and pump adjustments) 3 or 4 years ago. Uses no oil and has never missed a beat (engine wise).

Cheers

Jim

[Graz]

Hi All

My 93 TDI has 302,000 k's on it. 200,000 of them are the result of my travels.
New water pump at approx 195,000 and radiator rodded shortly after that.
New lift pump fitted recently and injection pump resealed at the same time due a leak. Power steering pump 10,000 ago and on the third timing belt change. The last change included tension rollers.
Oil and filter changes at 5,000 and cooling system flushs annually.

Still happy with the old girl

Cheers

Graham

[mauricem]

160,000 96 disco tdi. No oil usage. Ive only had it since 140k and no probs so far. Penrite diesel 15 every 5k and filters every 10k.

Thats all pretty boring but what is interesting is that when I researched buying one of these a lot of people were claiming the engine was only good for 200k, it seemed to be accepted wisdom on outer limits for instance.

It was great to read about people getting 500k+ out of this hard working little donk!

[Reads90]

My dad had a 200 Tdi that did 450,000 MILES (720,000k's)
Engine was fine and did most of it towing a 4 ton trailer. Did go though a few gearboxes though https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
It off road terms the 200 is better than the 300 , (well that is what is thought in the Uk amounst the garages and competion scence

[one_iota]

Looks like the Poll function has not migrated to the new format so the link to archived poll results is here:

http://www.our4wd.com/modules.php?name=For...ewtopic&t=11531 (http://www.our4wd.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=11531)

[discoute]

I have a 300tdi sitting in my shop, It has done 326000klms, was over heated and driven to a stand still, The bores are about 3 thou worn not including the pick up marks, Good for some big mileage I would think.

glen

[JamesH]

I heard that there is one sure way to kill a Tdi and that is to overheat it.

[Scouse]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JamesH &#064; May 15 2006, 02&#58;56 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I heard that there is one sure way to kill a Tdi and that is to overheat it.
[/b][/quote]Yes, and because the Disco doesn&#39;t have a level sensor it&#39;s easy to do if a hose blows.
Our Service Manager had one as a drive car in 1995 or so. It popped a welch plug on the freeway. There was no indication on the temperature guage of overheating as the coolant was lost. By the time he&#39;d smelt the coolant & pulled off the road, the engine had seized.

[Ace]

Mine has 200000km on the clock, i think it has been appart once or twice when newer to fix an oil leak when the owner i bought it off bought it from the original owner. Other than that the only problems i have had are a buggered lift pump but only because the fuel line from the pump to the fuel filter was to short and put excessive pressure on the fitting, replaced the pump and put a longer line on it and it is fine now. I just replaced a welsh plug yesterday as it had developed a very slow leak. It doesnt use any water, and i was a couple of thousand km overdue for a service and it had use a bit of oil, if i change ever 5000km like i have done every other time then it doesnt use any. I have also fitted its third timing belt and the bearing in the tensioner puller **** itself so i replaced that. Other than that (touch wood) the only other things that have gone wrong have been as a result of 4wding and have been unrelated to the engine. Matt

[Spinner912]

This is different&#33;

300TDi, first registered Sep 1998.

Now done almost 200,000 Km. Going stronger than at 100,000 km.

First the problems.

Fuel lift pump failure at 80K. Induction manifold gasket leak at about 85K. Sump sealant leak at about 100K And that&#39;s it.

I chickened out at 90K and had the first timing belt (pulleys, etc.) changed. (And that was before the price increase. I also managed to purchase a few kits at the time and I still have them stored away).

I intend running the second timing belt to 120K since installation. (This looks reliable, but probably due to a strict personal RPM limit of not more than 2,800). (Stress on belts increase exponentially as RPM increases).

100K ago, I elected to go revolutionary. This engine has run on 100% biodiesel since then. (Most fuel is obtained in bulk from BIA at Rutherford, NSW. I purchase in Lots of greater than 1,000 litres at a time). Apart from the odd supplier adding a bit of petroleum distillate in with the B100 (pure biodiesel), for reasons which might be more obvious to a specialist in excise matters, no petroleum diesel has passed through the system in about 100K.

The results in terms of smooth, silent and smokeless running are nothing short of very pleasing.

Without the use of a dynamometer, it is impossible to quantify power output compared to operating on petroleum diesel, but it is probably sllightly down. Fuel consumption is about 2 to 3% higher (and I do keep very accurate records). I normally expect 9.5l/100km driving quietly on flattish good roads, 10.5 at a constant 100 kph on the highway at about 2.75 tonnes average. At that weight and towing a one tonne trailer, at highway speeds (again, 100 indicated), I can manage about 11.5, and with my 3 tonne (26&#39;) caravan, about 13 to 13.5, driving at 90 indicated. (All these figures go belly up when punching into a strong headwind&#33;)

But it doesn&#39;t stop there.

50K ago, I installed a micron fine bypass filter (American sourced), and am running the engine on Synthetic lubrication oil. (Almost synthetic actually - Castrol Dynamax 10W/40 is a Hydrocracked mineral oil processed to synthetic standards). The oil meets one of the specific Land Rover 300 TDi lubricating oil standards.

I do not normally change the oil at specified intervals. Or at least, I haven&#39;t for almost 50K. But I do have the oil analysed each 10K (&#036;28.50 a time), and have very positive results. Based on the results of the oil analysis, I have changed neither primary nor bypass filters in that interval. AND THE OIL IS STILL NOT EVEN COMPLETELY BLACK. (TBN has dropped from the original 17.7 to about 16&#33;) Pressure is almost identical to that when previously operating on mineral oil (Castrol RX Super) with changes at about 7.5K. I will change oil and/or filters as recommended by the Wear Check lab following each 10K analysis.

There are probably many resasons for this, but some are:

(i) due to the installation of the large bypass filter, my oil capacity has been increase to 9 litres.
(ii) due to mainly highway operation, a little oil is consumed (about 300-500 ml/10,000km), thus there is a little replensihment from time to time.
(iii) the very low soot and acidity levels associated with biodiesel versus petroleum diesel fuel.

Coolang system is flushed at regular intervals (as per factory recommendations in fact), as is the intercooler. (The correct intercooler flushing solvent is used, not any of the various home made recipes used by most radiator shops. Check with any of the large truck workshops for a good solvent).

Turbocharger pressure is monitored continuously via a VDO 0-15 psi boost guage. The waste gate has never failed to limit pressure to almost exactly 15 psi.

The one modification that has been done to the engine is a small tweak to the fuel pump boost regulator. It was found, very early in the life of the vehicle, that starting off from a standstill with a very heavy load (vehicle at about 3 tonnes with 3 tonnes caravan on the back) was nigh on impossible without getting going in low range, particularly is on a slight up incline. Very inconvenient.

It was explained to me that this lack of power in the low rev range w*****rgely due to EC emission requirements which restricted fuel flow until a certain degree of turbo boost was achieved. This minimised smoke. But the slight tweak mentioned above, carried out by a diesel workshop, solved the problem, albeit at the expense of a very slight increase in exhaust smoke. And now that the engine is running on smokeless biodiesl (B100), that problem has disappeared altogether.

So, in the end analysis, what is the longevity of a 300 TDi? If I cannot get at least double that which I currently have (say 400K), I will be very surprised indeed. And I am hopeful of even greater life.

But this engine is looked after&#33; Not pampered. Worked hard, but carefully.

Can&#39;t wait to read the knockers opinions on this one&#33; But i&#39;ll keep progress posted from time to time.

[RoverOne]

I&#39;ve had my &#39;97 TDI since new & now done 190,000km.

Has had 3 timimg belts, 1 at 18,000, the others done under warranty inspection.
Has had 2 injector pumps, 1 due to timing belt incorrect fit, the other went 60,000kn due to water pitting hardened rollers on cam & chrome lifting jamming up the works.

Since I have lightened my load I normaly carry, it&#39;s running like a dream , actually flying which is worrying me its going so well https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ after near 10 years of ordinary performance.

Cheers
Bryce

[dman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pedro_The_Swift &#064; May 5 2006, 06&#58;41 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
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DiscoDan Said--

Also needs injectors but these need to be replaced as told they can not be rebuilt.
Some times i wonder if i would be better off in a V8,
Has anyone done this on a V8 or TD5?
nope, but had mine professionally cleaned (3 times I was told) after getting a tank full of muddy fuel.
It was running fine before at over 270,000 kays.
funny how the fuel pump karked it 2 weeks later,, and do you think the servo would cough up for it :roll:
[/b][/quote]



my 97mdl tdi 130s done 304,000km and still going strong just a blown bag pipe water hose and a lose injector pump wire is all that gone wrong so touch wood she a bit smoky on start up. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Scouse]

Welcome Spinner.

It certainly looks like you know your engine inside & out.
With that much care & attention, it will run forever I think https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ .

[rick130]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>(TBN has dropped from the original 17.7 to about 16&#33;)[/b][/quote]

are you sure of that TBN ?
It looks abnormally high, although that level of TBN retention is excellent. What are Castrol&#39;s base specs ? Do you get TAN tested as well ?
The lab that I use also quoted a higher than normal TBN for oil we use in several vehicles (Mobil Delvac 1) which I put down to a lab aberation, but it wasn&#39;t near as high as yours.

[Spinner912]

Yep; Castrol states TBN 17.7. No TAN given.

That must be realistic because, as I said, my latest Wear Check analysis gives a TBN of something over 16.

[Spinner912]

I don't know if you can do it, but if you can get me your email address, I will email you my latest Wear Check report (.pdf file format).

[damo]

tMy fiancee has been converted and is now the owner of a 98 30tdi Disco Auto. We got it with a blown headgasket and after reasearching its service history, did a rebuild. ( thanks go to the history helper! )
It was a company car and had been replaced, but they were letting others use on weekends. The water pump failed on the last user who kept driving it to a servo which was fortunately not too far. This was at 143,000km. The service history was spotty as the lease holder wasn't keeping regular service intervals, but he wasn't thrashing it either.
Head was ok, bore was honed, new pistons, timing belt and idlers, serpentine belt and turbo drain hose. It's running sweetly now, doing about 10.5L to the 100km. Auto needs a service and I'm keeping an eye out for an enlarged intercooler. Might give the factory cooler a clean out and see what that does for performance. Whilst the head was off, i had the head-man do a clean up of the ports. he said it probably wouldn't make much difference as it's a forced induction ( logical ) and he thought the design was very very good, stating he wish he had a couple of V8 heads that well designed.
Should be good for about 80,000 before any major work.

[Surferjim]

Mine has 198,000 - just had timing belt done and new water pump.

Not sure on oil consumption as yet but will post findings in 1,000K's or so. Still got the black coolant tank and will be replacing shortly due to horror stories on here about low coolant levels and head gaskets (eep!).

[DiscoDave]

My Disco has 180,000 on the clock. Timing belt allegedly changed at 80,000 before I owned it, and at 120,000 when I did. Fuel Lift pump died around 150,000. Oil (Castrol Magnatec 10W40) and filter changed every 10,000km (it seems many of you do that every 5000km?). Never used injector cleaner or any other addatives.
It's mostly used as a shopping trolley (hangs head in shame :rolleyes:), gives off a bit of smoke at first revolutions then no smoke except feint haze when under load. It runs very well and I get a consistent 10.0 litres/100km fuel consumption.

[White 110]

Just picked up a 1996 Defender with 237,000. Running amazingly smooth and it was given a clean bill of health apart from the cough of black smoke on start up each morning. Is there an easy fix to that? Or am I being hopeful? :confused:

[Graz]

Puff of smoke at start up according to what I have read is normal. The injector pump schedules more fuel to aid the start, particularly cold.

[kando]

G'day mates,

I bought my 96, 300TDi Disco about six weeks back, it now has 288178.5 on the clock, I put around 6,000 of those KM there with a trip up to Calundra to pick-up a caravan and another express trip to Sydney last week to pick-up some other gear.
My Disco was a real find, a one owner vehicle that was serviced ontime by it's previous owner, a retired CAT diesel fitter, and he kept great records.
Anyway, on my express trip from Corio, Vic' to Sydney, NSW, (speeds of 110KM PLUS-KM :wasntme: Well if people comming out of Canbera heading for Sydney can do it, so can I) I clocked-up 1,829KM, used 186 Litres of diesel but this Disco is using no oil!
Okay! 1829KM, 186L of diesel = KM Per L = 9.833333333333334! Or 10.169491525423728 Per 100KM!
Not too shabby for a diesel fourbie at those speeds! Believe me, I wasn't hanging about, just ask the cop that pulled me over :nazilock: but gave me a break :wasntme:
I'm betting I could get 12 or more KM per Litre if I drove at 100KM to 110KM PH...I must try it sometime :D

Am I happy with my 96 300TDi Disco? Bloody oath I am ;)

Cheers mates,

Bill from Corio.:angel:

[jase]

I took a 130 ute for a drive the other week its done 475,000 kms :eek: original engine no smoke & ran great

Jase

[barryj]

Just picked up a 1996 Defender with 237,000. Running amazingly smooth and it was given a clean bill of health apart from the cough of black smoke on start up each morning. Is there an easy fix to that? Or am I being hopeful? :confused:

Only cure is not to start it :eek: . Only worry it does not blow a puff of smoke when starting :twisted: .

[chunk]

I had a 94 200tdi sold it 5 years ago with 250,00 km on the clock. changed 1 timing belt and re-built gear box. i spoke to a diesel mechanic about doing an engine re-build and was told to come back when its done 350,000 k.:burnrubber: :burnrubber:

PS. Just checked with current owner has done about 355,000 k and had the turbo re built.

[DirtyDawg]

I have 2 x 300TDi's both 98's a Disco and a Defender both 170-175ks
Both serviced by me every 5ks and the Disco just had her second timing belt first at 9ok second at 170k and the Defender is getting her new timing belt when the Lockers go in.
The both have the customary puff on start up and dont' use any oil via combustion although the Defender has a small leak on the rocker cover.
With their economy and fuel prices I'm glad we're a Diesel family:)

[loanrangie]

I recently got a 98 tdi auot disco and from reading this post seems alot use the castrol magnatec, being new to diesels is this the oil to use ?

[SSmith]

97, 300tdi Disco 160000km
engine, regular servicing, nothing major done
penrite semi-synthetic every 5000 (since i got my hands on it last june)
blew off the air line from the turbo to the fuel pump... ooh thats why it was running completely gutless :)

still returning 8.9l/100km in heavy melbourne traffic altho expecting that to raise a little now ive bolted on arb bullbar and kaymar rear bumper (thanks ebay :D )

couple of driveline issues, front hub flanges, wheel bearings changed aready. rear halfshaft splines looking a little sad.

all in all, loving it :cool:

[redrover3]

'95 300tdi, 321,000k, 3rd coolant tank, 2nd drive belt tensioner, just about to put 4th timing belt on, all else original and untouched, regular servicing, no oil burning but leaks a bit, 10kms/l (optimal, highway, unloaded), rest of driveline still original. Is 60,000k still the recommended interval for timing belt change?
Tony

[weeds]

Is 60,000k still the recommended interval for timing belt change?
Tony

i have a 95 with 225k, i'm working on 80K for the timimg belt

am interested in others comments

[Reads90]

my 300 TDi 90 has hardly any k's on it as it has only done 140,000 k's in its life (since 95)

But my old 90 200tdi was beaten about and still was goood. The 200 TDi are alot better for the mud and crap thatn the 300 tdi and are seen as almost bullet proof. Had two cambelts snap in the middle of anger , but they were my fault as i did not have the wading plugs in and filled the timing cover with mud :angel:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1389.jpg

My dad had a 200 Tdi in a 110 and did 450,000 miles in it (720,000 k's)
And that had no problems at with it . And the 110 was used to tow a 4 ton trailer around for its whole life. At about 300,000 miles it had a new gear box and transfer box , but towing all the time you could not blame it for that. He had two tdi 110 that did about this and a 300 TDi that did 350,000 miles before he sold it

I would trust a TDi well before a TD5

[Huwmungus]

I Have just bought a '97 130 D Cab Fender with 250 000 km on it, yet to read it's full service history (which I was suprised it had one!). But it seems to be in good shape, only done 350km since buying it and got 11.8 L/100.

I had a 95 3 Door Disco 300Tdi and used to get about 10.5 - 11 L/100km on a highway (110-120km/h) run. As soon as something went on the roof it went up to around 13 -13.5 L/100km. I found it was more economical to tow a box trailer than to put stuff on the roof. It had 225 000 on the clock when I sold it. Dad purchased it at 2 years old, about 80 000 Km, I bought it from him at 130K. and between us we had no major issues. It was fitted with a DTS watercooled turbo at 120000km and I removed it to put on the Fender (Not done yet!). Blew a head gasket (cylinder to external, no water luckily) at 195000. Radiator cleaned at 215000. I didn't realise about doing the timing belt at shorter intervals (60K?) so it was still getting done at 100K. Oil cooler hoses were replaced at 150K. When we had the head off to replace the gasket the cylinders still had the hone marks fom new inside. I put Castrol GTX Diesel oil in it.

Dad now has a 99 TD5 Disco Auto with 220 on the clock. The motor is fine, just the rest of the car falling apart around it. He's had ACE, ABS problems and Coolant hoses are begining to let go.

My Brother had a 200Tdi Disco and sold it at 335000km. As far as we knew it had no major problems with the motor. Just some of the other bits of the car needed some work (suspension, gearbox etc).

[incisor]

my defender has 279880 klms on it, just had the gearbox rebuilt, the transfer case needs the intermediate shaft seal done, and the engine has a very minot oil leak at the lift pump.

my disco has 240000 klms on it, has had the p gasket and alloy plate replaced, alternator replaced, lift pump replaced all the bearing on the belts done, and appears to to purring along

my mate has a 300tdi with 400000 klms + on it and it did a crankshaft key and a gearbox.

[Tusker]

Bought my 200tdi with 14,000 on it, sold it with 314,000 on it. The EPA were sending nasty letters about towing a bushfire.

Serviced by the book every 10,000 kms the whole time.

Head gasket goes every 150,000 km or so. Because the temp sensor is high, it doesn't read when the coolant level drops, & its game over. So the top end was overhauled a couple of times.

Pump & injectors also needed overhauling a couple of times to keep it near its best.

One belt walked, started to fray. Picked up & changed 10,000 km later on service. Changed to the Z gears after that.

One turbo hose split, but it was still on the original turbo at the end.

Driver error - one bent conrod. Still got it somewhere.

Lastly, re the heater core thread, my heater worked right to the end. I put this done to changing coolant by the book.

That's all that comes to mind.

Regards
Max P

[BigJon]

, just had the gearbox rebuilt, the transfer case needs the intermediate shaft seal done,


Surely that would be replaced while the gearbox is out?

[incisor]

it needs bushing and i had a fixed budget... and it isnt that bad for now.

[loanrangie]

98' tdi auto only had for 9 months, 204k on the clock, previous owner was pedantic and has written every little detail on the owners manual like when pads were changed etc. Has had head gasket at about 140k (didnt blow, replaced due to minor leak) 3rd belt due at 220k and coolant header tank replaced last week. Drives like a new car and uses no oil and still passes jap cars ! D110V8 can confirm that it goes pretty good.

[jddisco200tdi]

'93 200 Tdi disco. 120k on the clock. Owned since new. Had the fuel pump wound up since 70k.
Never touched the motor except for standard maintenance. Still running all original ancillaries.

Body mounts are cracked, front shock tower has been rewelded and tranfer case rebuilt.
Is running on only its second main battery in 14 years (8 years old) but it now getting a bit past its use by date.

[ak]

What interests me is alot of you guys with 8 to 9 year old cars have less than 200k on the clock. Most of you guys must not use them as daily drives.

Sorry off topic.:wasntme:

[Reads90]

What interests me is alot of you guys with 8 to 9 year old cars have less than 200k on the clock. Most of you guys must not use them as daily drives.

Sorry off topic.:wasntme:
Nope just for long drives around Aus
After all i did nearly 40,000 k's in 6 months in the 90 just driving around aus

[onemore]

The 300tdi in my 89 Rangie is coming up to 250,000kms, I haven't had any troubles with it at all, it still gets 10.5 per 100kms and still has enough power for me. I put the reliability down to reliability down to the regular servicing the vehicle gets, or am I just lucky?

[sclarke]

320k in my Defender.
Ex Telecom Vehicle, then someone, then Greylandy, now me.

Headjob about 220k

Big end bearings last night.............

[owoodland]

I skipped through some of the replies in the middle. Am I a winner?

1994 Disco 300 tdi ..... 392,000 km.

Previous owner did the head and may have given the bottom end a bit of spruce up but it's still the original donk.

Still runs sweetly and gives between 10 and 11.5 km/l (i.e. 8.5 to 10 l/100 km), and that's around town, in the country, towing, etc etc, always the same.

I'm trying to sell it at the moment if anyone wants to give me $5k for it.....

[D110V8D]

98' tdi auto only had for 9 months, 204k on the clock, previous owner was pedantic and has written every little detail on the owners manual like when pads were changed etc. Has had head gasket at about 140k (didnt blow, replaced due to minor leak) 3rd belt due at 220k and coolant header tank replaced last week. Drives like a new car and uses no oil and still passes jap cars ! D110V8 can confirm that it goes pretty good.


Yes I can confirm that it'll pull the skin off 2 rice puddings!:eek:

;) ;) :p :p :p :D :D :D :angel: :angel: :angel:

[Bushie]

What interests me is alot of you guys with 8 to 9 year old cars have less than 200k on the clock. Most of you guys must not use them as daily drives.

Sorry off topic.:wasntme:


9 years old and just under 100K - but being used as a daily driver again now @ 500km a week.


Martyn

[sclarke]

I skipped through some of the replies in the middle. Am I a winner?

1994 Disco 300 tdi ..... 392,000 km.

Previous owner did the head and may have given the bottom end a bit of spruce up but it's still the original donk.

Still runs sweetly and gives between 10 and 11.5 km/l (i.e. 8.5 to 10 l/100 km), and that's around town, in the country, towing, etc etc, always the same.

I'm trying to sell it at the moment if anyone wants to give me $5k for it.....

Your dont win.. there is a 460k disco around somewhere.... few more to go..

[rangieman]

My 95 Defender has 214,000 ks , it had 200,000 when i bought it last year it is driven every day to work and back and on trips
its more reliable than the rangies i have owned in the past :D

[Jeff]

My 98 Defender has about 140,000km, had it since new, well 27km on the clock. It's had the belt mod done and the front crank seal leaked all over the timing belt at around 90,000.
I wound the fueling up at about 120,000 and it smokes a little more but uses less fuel, especially when towing my big trailer and pulls better particularly hill starts.
Fuel consumption is about 10 kml solo down to 6.5 towing at 110ish. The front of the trailer is flat but I am planning a nose cone to improve consumption. I even borrowed a welder to do this over easter, hope I don't run out of steel.

I'd like a little more power and a bit less noise.

Jeff

[slipknot]

mines a 1998 Discovery 300Tdi auto. Done 131,000. I've had it for 5 months.
2 weeks ago i replaced the black header tank that had a minute leak in the seam. Previous owner had belts replaced at 80,000 otherwise nothing else done except regular 5000 k oil and filter changes


Cheers, Trevor

[rgty_kmj]

I've got a 1992 Defender 200 tdi that has 225000 kms on the clock. I bought it with 3000 kms on the clock. Timing belt went at 66000 kms - it bent 6 push rods which were replaced with push rods out of a series 3 diesel (apparently they are the same). I replaced a leaking fuel pump about 6 months ago with a non genuine. Also on my second replacement viscous fan unit but thats about it. Change oil and filter every 7500 kms.

Kerry

[DiscoDan]

Coming up to 200k 197k to be exact and still giving 10.5 l/100km

Its ok but a little slow.

Cheaper for cooling system parts than most other 4wds, but it does chew out lift pumps (now on third) belt tensioners (on second but needs a new one) and timing belts (at the 1/2 life of the third belt). Also needs injectors but these need to be replaced as told they can not be rebuilt.

Some times i wonder if i would be better off in a V8,

Has anyone done this on a V8 or TD5?

So much for this last year:(

Since then Blown head gasket 198k, caused by water pump leaking, this caused a warped block. :mad:

This head gasket lasted until Feb 2007 or 205k and it blew, more money (parts only, labour free), then 26 hours after car returned on the side of the road again.:angrylock:

Another blown head gasket, this has resulted in a free engine rebuild with the only cost incurred being the injectors:eek:

Should get it back tomorrow:)

Hope I can get it through the week end:wasntme:

Will admit the mechanic was good enough to admit they were at fault, don't get that at most shops.:oops2: