Defender Steel Rims on a Discovery?

[96DiscoV8]

Is it posable to run Defender 110 rims on my 96 Discovery V8i? I have alloy's at this moment but want the Defender Rims now how ever I have been told that in doing that I will upset the whole drive-train and possibly damage it too not to mention taking out the guards as well. Is this true? :?:

[p38arover]

I can't see why you would not be able to use Defender rims nor why it would damage the Disco. Who gave you the info?

The diameter and offset on a Defender rim is identical to the Disco 1 - check the markings. The Disco will have stamped upon it something like 7Jx16x33, the Defender 5.5x16x33.

The 16 = diameter in inches, the 33 the offset in mm, the 7 or 5.5 is the width.

Defender rims were used on Camel Trophy Discos. Disco rims will fit Defenders.

Ron

[96DiscoV8]

My mechanic did, he also said in order to fit these rims I would have to left the body by 1 or 2 inch's and put lower diff gear ratios in them.

[abaddonxi]

Think your mechanic is talking about tyres. Defender run larger tyres than Disco, rim size is the same.

Cheers
Simon

[one_iota]

Originally posted by 96DiscoV8
My mechanic did, he also said in order to fit these rims I would have to left the body by 1 or 2 inch's and put lower diff gear ratios in them.

Welcome

Ron is right.

Defender drivers use disco wheels.

And providing that you don't exceed a total of 30" total diameter of the wheel/tyre combination you won't notice the difference

Can I suggest that you change your mechanic :wink: and spend some more time here https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[camel_landy]

Defender rims will be fine on a Disco. As mentioned, your mechanic was probably talking about tyre sizes.

If you fit wider tyres, you'll have to adjust the steering stops... Otherwise the front tyres will rub on the radius arms at full lock.

You can fit slightly larger tyres on the Disco without a lift but you'll have to trim a tiny 'wedge' from the rear quarter pannel (it's what they did on the Camel Trophy). Defender sized tyres will require a body lift though.

HTH

Mark.

[camel_landy]

Originally posted by 96DiscoV8
My mechanic did, he also said in order to fit these rims I would have to left the body by 1 or 2 inch's and put lower diff gear ratios in them.

Another option is to change the transfer box instead of diff ratios. Although the Defender & Disco have the same transfer box... The Disco has higher ratios.

Just a thought....

Mark.

[p38arover]

Originally posted by 96DiscoV8
My mechanic did, he also said in order to fit these rims I would have to left the body by 1 or 2 inch's and put lower diff gear ratios in them.

BTW, the diff ratios on a Defender are the same as a Disco 1, a Rangie classic, a Disco 2, and a P38A RR. However, the transfer case ratio may vary.

Ron

[Pedro_The_Swift]

you guys are great. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


this HAD to of helped 96DiscoV8 8)

[kie4]

Hi
I have defender wheels and tyres 7.15x 16, I have cut the rear quarter panel on the back edge by approx 30mm . as i have 1 inch wheel spacers I have raised the suspension by 2 inches.
forget about the gear ratios.
I was going to put a photo on , but i dont know how :?
cheers
Richard

[weeds]

Yep agree with the other dudes, if you are not changing your tyre size than it won't matter wich rim you run.

I would be looking for disco 1 rims as they look much better than defender rims and they are wider as well which will give you more on tyre width.

However I'm guessing defender rims may be cheaper.

I picked up another four disco steelies for my defeder for $60ea a while ago and had them painted

[Pedro_The_Swift]

eat your heart out Ferno,,

a QUAD post--

nicely done weeds https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Lucy]

Originally posted by camel_landy
Defender sized tyres will require a body lift though.

No they don't. I run 235/85 16s (defender size tyres) on disco steel rims with no body lift, 2" suspension lift and spacers to push the rear guards out by 15mm with no problems. I ran the tyres prior to the suspension lift, also with no problems. Before I purchased a second set of disco rims (and weren't they hard to find!!) I ran the same tyres on a set of series rims (5.5 x 16 - ex army), again with no problems. I did have to adjust the steering stops - 5 minutes work. I plan to cut the guards - a camel cut.

I haven't worried about the gearing change, have learnt to live with it, but then again I do drive an auto. The biggest hassle was convincing the wife to drive in our other car at different speeds, so I could get an idea of what the speedo should read.

I have yet to worry about engineering the wheel change, as I swap between 2 sets of tyres.

Justin

[disco95]

Originally posted by camel_landy+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(camel_landy)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-96DiscoV8
My mechanic did, he also said in order to fit these rims I would have to left the body by 1 or 2 inch's and put lower diff gear ratios in them.

Another option is to change the transfer box instead of diff ratios. Although the Defender & Disco have the same transfer box... The Disco has higher ratios.

Just a thought....

Mark.[/b][/quote]


Mark, Do you know which gear sets are different :?:
Also are the differences across the board, only in low range :?:
If I could get a lower low by changing a gear set with a Defender I may be interested.
However.....I like the high range gearing.
Pulling the TC is a pain in the arse but really not that big of a job. I could do the change over in a weekend.

[DaveS3]

Only the high range ratios change - low is the same across all models.

[disco95]

Originally posted by DaveS3
Only the high range ratios change - low is the same across all models.

:roll: Typical, I wan t to go slower in low... not high https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[96DiscoV8]

Thanks I will put all your feedback into good use, happy Rovering https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[camel_landy]

Originally posted by Lucy+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lucy)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-camel_landy
Defender sized tyres will require a body lift though.

No they don't. I run 235/85 16s (defender size tyres) on disco steel rims with no body lift, 2" suspension lift and spacers to push the rear guards out by 15mm with no problems.[/b][/quote]

Same difference in my mind... You're still lifting the body relative to the axles/wheels, either with spacers in the body mountings or longer springs.

Mark.

[weeds]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
eat your heart out Ferno,,

a QUAD post--

nicely done weeds https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

did i post four times, not sure why my pda does that from time to time, back on the work pc for the next week and a bit

[Lucy]

Originally posted by camel_landy+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(camel_landy)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Lucy@
<!--QuoteBegin-camel_landy
Defender sized tyres will require a body lift though.

No they don't. I run 235/85 16s (defender size tyres) on disco steel rims with no body lift, 2" suspension lift and spacers to push the rear guards out by 15mm with no problems.

Same difference in my mind... You're still lifting the body relative to the axles/wheels, either with spacers in the body mountings or longer springs.

Mark.[/b][/quote]

But I also said that I ran them without any lift with no problems, and I did. Got to love this selective quoting, you sure you don't work in/for the media :wink:

[camel_landy]

Originally posted by Lucy
But I also said that I ran them without any lift with no problems, and I did. Got to love this selective quoting, you sure you don't work in/for the media :wink:

Sorry.. You gave the impression that you did... You sure you don't work in media? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Hmmm.... Did you actually use it off road though? If you did, any kind of articulation on the axles will cause the tyres to chew up the bodywork. 8O

Mark

[Lucy]

Originally posted by camel_landy

Hmmm.... Did you actually use it off road though? If you did, any kind of articulation on the axles will cause the tyres to chew up the bodywork. 8O

Mark

Yes, it does get used offroad, no the body work hasn't been chewed up. Maybe I'm not trying hard enough? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Lucy]

Yes, it does get used offroad, no the body work hasn't been chewed up. Maybe I'm not trying hard enough? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
[/b]

Well, after a run with the lads on the weekend, I thought we gave it a good workout, and the body work survived. The tyres just touch inside the rear guards on full compression, but not enough to worry about.