View Full Version : ARB Deluxe bar vs Summit bar - Will they both fit?
Lukeis
6th August 2019, 08:36 AM
I could be stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I have a 2011 D4
ARB tells me they can't fit summit bar to a pre facelift D4 as its not approved for this car, so they are steering me towards the deluxe bar
However, two issues:
1) the summit bar looks waaaaay better (in my opinion)
2) I have the facelift grill and lights which are slightly different therefore I'm worried there would be a strange gap (or worse it wont fit) if I get the deluxe bar.
Has anyone fitted a deluxe bar to a facelift D4, or has anyone else fitted a summit bar to a pre-facelift d4?
I want to be sure the mountings are all identical before I buy and spray a new ARB bar.
Also - how hard are they to fit? ARB said they "probably wont do it" so it's going to be up to me.
loanrangie
6th August 2019, 09:17 AM
Cant help with the bar choice but they are fairly simple to fit but there are some fiddly bits like cutting the inner guard where the bar lower capping meets the plastic liner, indicators need to be wired as well .
I have attached the fitting instructions that came with my bar which covers D3 to D4 2011.
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Eric SDV6SE
6th August 2019, 07:14 PM
Heres my MY11 D4 with ARB bar. Dont know off the top of my head if its Summit or Deluxe, but i wouldnt have a 4wd without one now. This one came with the car when i bought it 5 years ago.153297
I believe even with the facelift models, the gaps below the lights and grille would remain the same, and mounting points for the bar are also the same, as the facelift D4 still has the same chassis as the pre-facelift vehicles.
Lukeis
6th August 2019, 07:20 PM
That’s the deluxe, thanks anyway eric
kelvo
6th August 2019, 07:24 PM
Heres my MY11 D4 with ARB bar. Dont know off the top of my head if its Summit or Deluxe, but i wouldnt have a 4wd without one now. This one came with the car when i bought it 5 years ago.153297
That’s a Deluxe bar, Summit bars have larger diameter tube work and are more rounded on the bar edges.
This is a Summit bar on my MY14, I have no idea why the photo is sideways [bighmmm]
Lukeis
6th August 2019, 07:47 PM
THnks guys but I really just want info on anyone fitting deluxe to facelift D4 or vice versa
need to know if the mountings are the same
Tombie
6th August 2019, 09:01 PM
Summit bar will fit bit was not approved for earlier models therefore they can’t fit it.
If you got it yourself and fitted yourself it won’t be a problem.
Lukeis
7th August 2019, 05:27 AM
That what I suspected tombie, out of curiosity how do you know for sure?
Tombie
7th August 2019, 06:31 AM
That what I suspected tombie, out of curiosity how do you know for sure?
Yes, local has one fitted. Same brackets etc.
rangeyrover
1st September 2019, 07:20 AM
I think mine is a summit bar. Discovery 4 MY2011
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Lukeis
3rd September 2019, 08:31 PM
Yep, it is!
Thanks for that.
Did you install it yourself?
I assume they are the 9” spotties?
rangeyrover
3rd September 2019, 10:38 PM
Yep, it is!
Thanks for that.
Did you install it yourself?
I assume they are the 9” spotties?
It was originally Babs bar from here.
It wrote off a corolla, or more accurately a corolla wrote itself off on it
Babs got a new one on the insurance claim and I bought his, it has a slight scuff in the paint and a small dent where it had a chat with the Corolla!
So I had a brand new fitting kit, and the bar. It was fitted by Bruce Davis cos it was too heavy for me to sort myself alone. I cut the guards as I like a tight fit and the ARB gaps are too wide.
Kings dominator spotties 9". V pleased with them. Wired to fog light and main beam. Needs both for spotties to come on. Considering making them double tap with main beam, IE 2 flashes for them to come on when fogs are on.
Lukeis
4th September 2019, 08:00 PM
That’s reassuring to know!
You are obviously as fussy as me, no way would I let ARB cut those guards, I have seen so many where they have butchered and left a 2” gap that looks woeful!
Was it hard to get the cut right? Any learnings for me?
unsure how I plan on wiring them yet, bought the kings lights today. Assume a switch but does anyone just hard wire into the high beams? I have the bi-xenon
Tombie
4th September 2019, 08:52 PM
Legally - Switch required.
Besides; Being able to stage dipping is handy...
Tombie
4th September 2019, 08:53 PM
And don’t leave the gap too small - on corrugations or a small hit where the bar flexes slightly it will blow the wheel arch off!
Lukeis
5th September 2019, 05:25 AM
Good tip. Thanks Tombie
where does everyone put their switch? I have no interest in adding any holes in the dash so is there any other solutions available?
loanrangie
5th September 2019, 07:21 AM
Ipf mouse switch, comes with double sided tape. Mine is stuck just being the light stalk.
rangeyrover
5th September 2019, 07:37 PM
That’s reassuring to know!
You are obviously as fussy as me, no way would I let ARB cut those guards, I have seen so many where they have butchered and left a 2” gap that looks woeful!
Was it hard to get the cut right? Any learnings for me?
unsure how I plan on wiring them yet, bought the kings lights today. Assume a switch but does anyone just hard wire into the high beams? I have the bi-xenon
Mount the bar as high as the adjustment allows., push brackets high, then bar high.
This gets it as close to the headlights as possible. Still a widish gap
Then trim Guards using a thin metal cutting wheel on angry grinder, to your taste and dependent on the roads you travel as Tombie said.
My lights are double cut. Fogs activate second relay which latches on, main beam operates first relay this gives spotties as well.
I've bought another headlight switch to see if I can make it fit another switch internally.
Edit:
Inspired me to have a look inside.
There is a lot of space for a flush switch inside the headlight switch
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