Can you get locked inside a Disco 3

[coolum]

I have wondered if you were sleeping in the back of the Disco 3 and you got a flat battery whist inside, would you be able to get out or would a window smash be necessary.

[Parso]

I have wondered if you were sleeping in the back of the Disco 3 and you got a flat battery whist inside, would you be able to get out or would a window smash be necessary.

You'd have to go out a side door.

[Dropowar]

Not in my 2005 D3, the door locks worked manually when we lost all power. The tailgate is a different story though, the beer (amongst other important things) was held captive between the cargo barrier and the tailgate.

Regards

Chris

[DiscoJeffster]

If you double locked it engaging the dead lock the car I can’t see how you’ll do it without breaking a window. That said, you wouldn’t deadlock it if you were in it (alarm etc) so you could simply open the door (I think!).

That said, it’s a practically impossible scenario I’d have thought. Make sure your fridge has a cutout set [emoji6]

[coolum]

So if the car was not locked when you go to sleep and for one reason or another (radio lights/whatever) in the morning there is no power at all - will the passenger doors open to allow you to get out?

Or if you climbed over the front will the front doors open? My understanding is the tailgate can't be opened from the inside anyway?

I have traxide dual Battery setup so it may not ever happen - however if it did and you wake up with the sun in QLD it would be a tense moment till you bang your head on the window enough to either suicide or break glass - whichever comes first (easy to access the jack at the back of course so the headbanging would not be required).

If it was locked using the key fob - would that mean - no chance in Hades of getting out with an undamaged vehicle?

[DiscoJeffster]

The door handle is mechanical to the latch so it matters not if there’s power or not. It’s only whether you deadlock it (double press the lock button on the remote). If you did you’re locked in. I think if you lock it with the latch or one button press you can unlock it. First stage lock is manual or button controlled I understand. There are microswitches to make the motor do the “hard work” of moving the latch, but manually it’ll work too.

[Narangga]

If the vehicle is locked by using the master lock on the dash then an exit via a side door is possible. Front, open lever to get out; rear, unlock manually and then open lever to get out.

If locked by the remote then manually operating the latches nor pushing the master lock will unlock the doors.

[DiscoJeffster]

If the vehicle is locked by using the master lock on the dash then an exit via a side door is possible. Front, open lever to get out; rear, unlock manually and then open lever to get out.

If locked by the remote then manually operating the latches and the master lock will not work.

I’m sure that only applies for deadlock, double press, which disables the internal latches. Happy to be corrected (and I’ll go out and confirm now).

[DiscoJeffster]

Tested. Using the lock switch internally to lock as you would do sleeping in the car. Lock lever (not electronic switches) allows you to unlock.

Unlock manually after using button to lock. Sets off alarm (no surprise, so why would you do that inside the car?).

Unlock after deadlock (double button press) not possible. Latches don’t work.

All done with power on admittedly but the main lock latch (not lock electronic unlock buttons) and lever are mechanical so power or not should have similar result.

[rocket rod]

Tested. Using the lock switch internally to lock as you would do sleeping in the car. Lock lever (not electronic switches) allows you to unlock.

Unlock manually after using button to lock. Sets off alarm (no surprise, so why would you do that inside the car?).

Unlock after deadlock (double button press) not possible. Latches don’t work.

All done with power on admittedly but the main lock latch (not lock electronic unlock buttons) and lever are mechanical so power or not should have similar result.

You could also get a trusted friend to disconnect the battery after you have locked yourself in [bigwhistle]

[Melbourne Park]

Why lock the car anyway you're going to sleep in the vehicle?

And if you want to leave the car quickly for any emergency, it would be best not to unlock the vehicle IMO. Finding keys in a stressful situation when sleeping overnight, might not be easy.

I once locked my son - who was maybe 9 to 11 years old - in an E46 3 series sedan BMW. A car which an Asian lady left her son in, on a hot day, and went to the Casino. The young child died. Anyway I parked the car outside my house (it was my wife's car) - I had picked my son up from his school. I got out, I thought he did too, I walked up the driveway, and before the front door, locked the car. The rear door to the house was unlocked. Ove an hour later I heard a noise outside, and went out into the street - and a passer bye pointed to the BMW and the chap said " the child seems upset" ....

Fortunately it was not a hot day ...

I investigated and discovered that if the car is locked its impossible to get out of the car.

I contacted BMW, two times, but got no response.

Perhaps another reason why I am reticent to lock a car if a person is in it. OK I know they lock often when one departs, but they'll unlock when you stop the car. Locking a car when you jump in it may be necessary for security, I understand that. But if the someone is in a car with the vehicle turned off, it should be unlocked IMO.

[DiscoJeffster]

Why lock the car anyway you're going to sleep in the vehicle?

And if you want to leave the car quickly for any emergency, it would be best not to unlock the vehicle IMO. Finding keys in a stressful situation when sleeping overnight, might not be easy.

I once locked my son - who was maybe 9 to 11 years old - in an E46 3 series sedan BMW. A car which an Asian lady left her son in, on a hot day, and went to the Casino. The young child died. Anyway I parked the car outside my house (it was my wife's car) - I had picked my son up from his school. I got out, I thought he did too, I walked up the driveway, and before the front door, locked the car. The rear door to the house was unlocked. Ove an hour later I heard a noise outside, and went out into the street - and a passer bye pointed to the BMW and the chap said " the child seems upset" ....

Fortunately it was not a hot day ...

I investigated and discovered that if the car is locked its impossible to get out of the car.

I contacted BMW, two times, but got no response.

Perhaps another reason why I am reticent to lock a car if a person is in it. OK I know they lock often when one departs, but they'll unlock when you stop the car. Locking a car when you jump in it may be necessary for security, I understand that. But if the someone is in a car with the vehicle turned off, it should be unlocked IMO.

We need to be clear on the term “locked”.
Locked with an internal button or lever is not disabling. A simple movement of the lever opens the door.

Locking using a single press of the remote button is not something you should do if inside as the alarm is armed. Again though, the lever still works. It’s not deadlocked.

Locking using a double press of the remote button is deadlocked and you cannot use the levers or switches to exit the vehicle. You must break out. This is what you do when you lock and leave the vehicle.

In summary there is no reason NOT to manually lock the vehicle when in it, just don’t use the remote to lock it so as to avoid the alarm and deadlock functions.

[Melbourne Park]

We need to be clear on the term “locked”.
Locked with an internal button or lever is not disabling. A simple movement of the lever opens the door.

Locking using a single press of the remote button is not something you should do if inside as the alarm is armed. Again though, the lever still works. It’s not deadlocked.

Locking using a double press of the remote button is deadlocked and you cannot use the levers or switches to exit the vehicle. You must break out. This is what you do when you lock and leave the vehicle.

In summary there is no reason NOT to manually lock the vehicle when in it, just don’t use the remote to lock it so as to avoid the alarm and deadlock functions.

Thanks for the clarification.

I know with a Lexus, its not possible to lock the car from the outside of the vehicle, if there is a remote lock device inside the vehicle.

I think it's an error if Land Rover have allowed the vehicle to be deadlocked via double locking the remote - while inside the vehicle. But I don't know if Land Rover have allowed that to happen? I should try it it in mine I guess. I just need to be sure that I don't drop the key down between the front seats and the centre arm rest area, things can get stuck down there ...

Which reminds me that we should all carry a window braking tool in our vehicles. Locate it under the drivers seat or in the driver's door pocket, or on the transmission tunnel area. A nephew of mine died when his vehicle with three others in the vehicle, left the road. They had drunk a fare bit. The road was almost at water level, with bluestone running next to the bitumen. At night, the rocks merge into the water. Even in the day the rocks look like the water if its cloudy on that bit of road (which I had been on before and I remembered the road and the curb where my nephew died.

They were SAS soldiers, just having finished a behind the lines training course. Soldiers behind them dived into the 10 feet deep water, one with a rock, but no one could break the pressurised windows. A soldier left the water, ran back to their roadside car, grabbed it's jack, dived in and broke the rear window, but the four guys were gone by then - it doesn't take long to drown. My nephew was a water specialist too, awarded by the Governor General, etc etc etc. It's law in some places like Holland to have such window picks in each vehicle.

Doug

[DiscoJeffster]

Yes you can deadlock it within the vehicle. I posted that a few posts up in my testing.