Survey: 2013+ models manifold failures?

[DiscoJeffster]

Hey guys
Can those with 2013+ models confirm if you’ve suffered split intake manifolds?

THREAD SUMMARY as at 8th May

MANIFOLD FAILURE
2014 - 150,000 ONE SPLIT
2013 - 120,000 ONE SPLIT (towing)
2013 - 190,000 ONE SPLIT

NO ISSUES TO DATE
2013 - 106,000
2013 - 170,000
2016 - 115,000
2014 - 131,000
2013 - 175,000 (remap)
2013 - 175,000
2015 - 170,000
2016 - 102,000 (towing)
2014 - 107,000
2013 - 159,000 (towing)
2013 - 130,000 (towing)
2013 - 133,000 (towing)
2016 - 105,000 (towing)
2014 - 90,000
2016 - 78,000
2014 - 120,000
2013 - 168,000
2013 - 90,000
2013 - 140,000

[DieselLSE]

It might be more meaningful if you track both positive and negative responses. That will give you a better idea of how the sample size relates to the population of D4 owners on AULRO.
I've had no problems with mine after 106,000km.

[DiscoJeffster]

It might be more meaningful if you track both positive and negative responses. That will give you a better idea of how the sample size relates to the population of D4 owners on AULRO.
I've had no problems with mine after 106,000km.

True. Though I’m hoping I hear nothing. I’m thinking if the revisions make them more resilient and if the changes by 2013 were enough.

[John_D4]

170,000km with no issues. Standard and not remapped. 2013 model

[rocket rod]

115K no issues

[kelvo]

MY14, TDV6, 131,000Km currently all OK.

[DiscoJeffster]

The context is my wife and I have separated and I think she'll get out current Disco 2010 TDV6 3L, but I'm not going without, so I'm thinking about 2013+ (because I want AirPlay upgrade), but I'll also take better reliability to go with it.

[cjc_td5]

MY14 TDV6, yep did one mid last year. Probably around 150,000km.

[dalil]

My13 remapped 175k no problem.

[Barraman]

MY15 TDV6 170,000 km, no problems

[DiscoJeffster]

MY14 TDV6, yep did one mid last year. Probably around 150,000km.

NOOOO!!!! That sucks. Oh well. I was hopeful.

[Odysseyman]

102000km no problem

David

[Pat]

MY14 107000k still ok, every thing standard.

[transtar]

MY2013 SDV6
159000 km everything standard no problems
Spent most of its life pulling 2900kg Caravan

[PeterJ]

MYDec/13, 130000km, mapped, lots of towing, no problem so far. I will be interested in this thread as I just got quoted $5000 to replace them.

[Discodicky]

Hey guys
Can those with 2013+ models confirm if you’ve suffered split intake manifolds?

MY13 (August build) TDV6 with no engine mods and with 133,000 klms and (touch wood) no probs as yet.

From the postings I have read on AULRO I am probably more concerned about potential failure of auto trans shift rotary controller which will be hugely inconvenient if it fails anywhere other than in my driveway or outside Justin's workshop, or the tailgate latch assy which seems to give occasional problems.

[dirvine]

My 16.5. 105,000kms, mapped, and tow 2.6T V 80,000k of the total, HARD. Nothing broken ....yet

[PeterJ]

My 16.5. 105,000kms, mapped, and tow 2.6T V 80,000k of the total, HARD.Does that mean "yes" or "no" to manifolds [emoji848]

[Eric SDV6SE]

NOOOO!!!! That sucks. Oh well. I was hopeful.
There’s a nice MY14 SCV6 in Qld DJ, check out Carsales.com.au .... this gets you away from all the diesel issues....

[envee]

2014 SDV6 90000km. Second owner, no problems I am aware of.

[ATH]

Nov. 2016 78K and the only prob. so far is that damn EPB. But I have taken out the extended warranty just in case...... :)
AlanH.

[LRD414]

MY14 TDV6, yep did one mid last year. Probably around 150,000km.
That's a bummer Chris, there I was thinking I was safe with an MY14 (currently at 120k).

Cheers,
Scott

[cjc_td5]

That's a bummer Chris, there I was thinking I was safe with an MY14 (currently at 120k).

Cheers,
ScottFrom memory it was inside the extended warranty period by only a week or two... [emoji16][emoji45]

[kenl]

I will only whisper this:

2011 SDV6 245k

Well you know just whispering[smilebigeye]

[jhsnow]

2013 RRS SDV6 168K mapped no problems. Should not say that.

[GJC]

2013 SDV6. Left manifold cracked at 120,000km. Probably 40% of these km have been towing 3 tonne caravan.

[Nigel Bailey]

MY13.5 L320 RR Sport. Re-mapped, only 90 000 km but no problem so far.

[StewG]

MY13 SDV6 190k split the RH intake manifold.

[Shippa]

2012/MY2013, SDV6 SE,140k Manifolds OK

[LRD414]

Refer first post in this thread.
I have added a summary of results so far and grouped the failures together.

Scott

[Discodicky]

MY13 (August build) TDV6 with no engine mods and with 133,000 klms and (touch wood) no probs as yet.

From the postings I have read on AULRO I am probably more concerned about potential failure of auto trans shift rotary controller which will be hugely inconvenient if it fails anywhere other than in my driveway or outside Justin's workshop, or the tailgate latch assy which seems to give occasional problems.


Re this post of mine. For your "records" if it helps, mine spends around 30% of its life towing either a 9' x 5' tandem trailer with around 1 tonne load, and a 3 tonne 21ft caravan. I rarely take it above 2600 rpm, preferring to stay in the max torque band.

[Odysseyman]

Hey guys
Can those with 2013+ models confirm if you’ve suffered split intake manifolds?

THREAD SUMMARY as at 8th May

MANIFOLD FAILURE
2014 - 150,000 ONE SPLIT
2013 - 120,000 ONE SPLIT (towing)
2013 - 190,000 ONE SPLIT

NO ISSUES TO DATE
2013 - 106,000
2013 - 170,000
2016 - 115,000
2014 - 131,000
2013 - 175,000 (remap)
2013 - 175,000
2015 - 170,000
2016 - 102,000
2014 - 107,000
2013 - 159,000 (towing)
2013 - 130,000 (towing)
2013 - 133,000
2016 - 105,000 (towing)
2014 - 90,000
2016 - 78,000
2014 - 120,000
2013 - 168,000
2013 - 90,000
2013 - 140,000


Hi Scott
the 2016 D4 with 102,000km - could you add towing please, to be consistent. I didn’t put that in my original post.

cheers
David

[Lukeis]

What’s the rationale to only including 2013+ models? Mine is a 2.7L 2011, is it a different set up?

[DiscoJeffster]

What’s the rationale to only including 2013+ models? Mine is a 2.7L 2011, is it a different set up?

Because I was curious if the newer model, and a number of revisions of the manifolds later, made the later models more reliable. Seems not.

[Graeme]

At my last count the manifolds were on about their 8th version so you may need to advance the MY a year or 2 to be more certain of them being OK.

[Graeme]

What’s the rationale to only including 2013+ models? Mine is a 2.7L 2011, is it a different set up?The boost of the 180 HP 3.0 flexes the manifolds more, causing cracking along the edges.

[DieselLSE]

The boost of the 180 HP 3.0 flexes the manifolds more, causing cracking along the edges.
I've wondered about this and it would be great if Daza and Justin and other real mechanics (as opposed to amateur bunnies like me) could comment on any correlations they may have noticed on repairs that they have done.
I have a low power 3.0 (155HP I think) and it has all the power I need and seems to run completely unstressed.

[John_D4]

I have a low power 3.0 (155HP I think) and it has all the power I need and seems to run completely unstressed.

I’ve been wondering the same actually. I also have a stock 3.0 TDV6, unmapped, and I can pull the 1.8t camper at 110kph up the steep expressway or freeway hills. Apart from turning off EGR and changing the accelerator map I’m personally not seeing the benefit of more power

[Discodicky]

I’ve been wondering the same actually. I also have a stock 3.0 TDV6, unmapped, and I can pull the 1.8t camper at 110kph up the steep expressway or freeway hills. Apart from turning off EGR and changing the accelerator map I’m personally not seeing the benefit of more power

I have also wondered about this line of thinking.
Perhaps Scott could re jig his spread sheet to indicate whether SDV6 or TDV6 against each vehicle?
Might show something interesting?

[rar110]

At my last count the manifolds were on about their 8th version so you may need to advance the MY a year or 2 to be more certain of them being OK.

Hi Graeme
Is the MY15 the most recent tdv6 manifold revision? Thanks

[Graeme]

I don't know when revisions were introduced as I've only chased the part number chains through supplier web-sites.

[Victim]

A bit late to the party on this one...

2014 155kw - 198000km, no manifold issues to date. Towed a small 1.5t camper trailer for around 22,000km on one trip, but in general I'd say no towing.

Only issues until now have been the rotary gear selector lock and a split intercooler (plus standard issues like LCA bushes @ 130000km and 1x RHS front wheel bearing @ 185000km).

I have no desire for any other vehicle at this stage, and happily get away into rough, remote places, usually solo without hesitation.

[Dagilmo]

2015 SDV6 90,000 kms. Towing, no tune (like one though [biggrin]) No problems.

[jonesy63]

MY13 TDV6 had driver's side inlet manifold split at about 138,000km. Bought second hand with 120,000km on it - mostly highway km on it. Hasn't towed anything since purchase. :-/

Replaced both sides with D5 inlet manifolds.

Now to get the blasted EGRs programmed out as one is on the way out. [bigsad]

[rar110]

MY13 TDV6 had driver's side inlet manifold split at about 138,000km. Bought second hand with 120,000km on it - mostly highway km on it. Hasn't towed anything since purchase. :-/

Replaced both sides with D5 inlet manifolds.

Now to get the blasted EGRs programmed out as one is on the way out. [bigsad]

Thanks Jonesy, could you post up the new manifold part numbers (should be on invoice). Thanks.

[jonesy63]

Thanks Jonesy, could you post up the new manifold part numbers (should be on invoice). Thanks.

Sorry mate - these were taken off one with a freshly-snapped crankshaft! Lesson learned - make sure you order new seals for the manifold as they must have gone hard with heat and didn't seal on first fitment using old seals.

Cheers,
Rob

[DiscoJeffster]

Sorry mate - these were taken off one with a freshly-snapped crankshaft! Lesson learned - make sure you order new seals for the manifold as they must have gone hard with heat and didn't seal on first fitment using old seals.

Cheers,
Rob

Hmm. My manifold came with a new rocker cover gasket. The trick to remember is using flexible sealant around the cam cap at the back of the engine, else it will leak oil.

[Discodicky]

Sorry mate - these were taken off one with a freshly-snapped crankshaft! Lesson learned - make sure you order new seals for the manifold as they must have gone hard with heat and didn't seal on first fitment using old seals.

Cheers,
Rob

A snapped crankshaft on a D5!!!!
Mon dieu!! [bawl][bawl]

[Melbourne Park]

2014 HSE Diesel towing 2.4 tonne, hmm, maybe 40%? 107,000 km No issues so far.

[envee]

2014 SDV6 90000km. Second owner, no problems I am aware of.

That's now changed. Had both replaced earlier in the year at around 120,000km.

[dalil]

2013 TDV6 235000km Remap and towing 3t caravan no issue, but Defender D300 HSE on order.
Dali

[Odysseyman]

2015/MY16 SDV6 HSE 140000km regularly towing 2.6T AOR Matrix - manifolds all good. (Hope I haven’t jinxed it)

David

[John_D4]

2013 TDV6 235000km Remap and towing 3t caravan no issue, but Defender D300 HSE on order.
Dali

How many km’s have you had the remap for? Just curios

[l00kin4]

MY14 SDV6 Driver's side ~7 years 121k, Passenger side 130k (15 months later)

No towing since I've had it - 23k, December 2014

David

[dalil]

How many km’s have you had the remap for? Just curios
I think around 70 or 80000 km.

Dali

[PeterJ]

2013/14 SDV6 170000km Remap by Cambo, and towing 3t caravan no issue

[Lazza]

Build date June 2013, SDV6, 245k kms, daily driver + driven off road including remote travel, occasionally tow 2t camper.
Passenger side manifold is split proper. 15 to 20 hours to replace both manifolds, so probably around $4k with genuine parts [bigsad] The $$$ hurts, but I still like our D4.

180861180862
Still bit of dust in the engine bay from Birdsville / Simpson Desert trip [bigwhistle]

Lazza

[RHS58]

Mine went in to restricted mode yesterday. Resets by turning off.
Comes back under acceleration.
Sucky blowy noise under bonnet.
Suspect cracked intake manifold.
2013 SDV6 @154k
About 10% towing 2.5t van.
Off to MR Automotive.

[Lusby]

MY15 D4 TDV6; no towing, no remap, no split manifold....yet [bighmmm]

[Discodicky]

Mine clocked 174,000 today. Remap by Cameron at Old Jaguar 18,000klm ago. Regularly tow a 3.0T caravan. Still on original manifolds. It's strange that some seem to go at 120,000 and others at well over 200,000 klms.

[Plane Fixer]

2012 model with 3.0l
replaced mine at 280000 before any problems. Passing a truck up hill and giving a bit of wellie the LH manifold blew. It also blew the turbo so now I am replacing both turbos (305000km) as well as the LH manifold.$$$

[Dagilmo]

2015 SDV6 - 140,000 no problems. Tow a 1.5t camper a bit. No remap - would love to do it...maybe when timing belts stuff done next year, I'll sneak it into the bill...

[RHS58]

Don’t suppose that anybody has had any satisfaction from contacting JLRA for some degree of remediation?