Small equipment tyres always flat- solutions?

[POD]

I have numerous pieces of equipment with small pneumatic tyres, such as log splitter, towable weed sprayer, wheelbarrows etc. It is almost a ritual to have to inflate a tyre when using a piece of equipment that has not been used in a while. I know I'm not the only one who has this frustration, I'm wondering what solutions others have used to overcome it.

[Tombie]

Nitrogen

[John_D4]

I’ve replaced my wheelbarrow wheel with a solid rubber one. Same for the hand trolley.

[goingbush]

Nitrogen
LOL :Rolling::Rolling:

[goingbush]

I’ve replaced my wheelbarrow wheel with a solid rubber one. Same for the hand trolley.

Ditto, Solid tyres , haven't had a flat on the wheelbarrow in 3 years, They are the only solution.


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[roverrescue]

How do the solid barrow tiles go when you say have a load of ‘crete or firewood and have to bump the barrow up a small step - I split the height of steps with lumps of wood or a ramp but often find I’m using the bounce in the tyre to get up??

My frustration is the water drain / Dump valve On my compressor takes about three weeks to close - just before the tank fills so to put a squirt in the barrow Or Zero tyre the air compressor uses about 63kWh of Juice for one quick blast of air!! !!!



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[windsock]

I used some polyurethane spray foam (Bunnings filler shelf) on a gap around window (on the prevailing wind side) in a small shed I'd built a while back and then looked at the tyre on my old wheelbarrow. Flat. Shook the can... empty. :no2:

Might get around to trying it one day. Like you, I get annoyed at constantly inflating tyres before using the equipment. When I saw the foam expand and fill the gap around the window and then set I figured it might be worth a go. I think if I did do it, I would pull the tube out and just fill the tyre cavity up. Trim any excess if it emerges and hope for 'roundness'.

[RHS58]

I dosed all these small tubes/tyres with Slime Tyre Sealant. Seems to have largely solved the issue for me.

[gromit]

There are companies that will foam fill them.
We used to get Industrial Sweeper tyres foam filled to make them puncture proof.

Try a forklift tyre place like Tyrefill Pty Ltd Melbourne (http://www.tyrefill.com.au/contact.html)
Not sure of price so it may not be economical..........



Colin

[POD]

I dosed all these small tubes/tyres with Slime Tyre Sealant. Seems to have largely solved the issue for me.

That looks like the most economical solution to try, the solid tyres are a very tempting option but would really add up in price by the time I replaced the wheels on all of my equipment. Not talking thousands but certainly several hundreds of dollars. As for nitrogen, I'm using 78% in all of my tyres at present so not sure how a purer sample would stop leaks?
Is the green slime readily available?

[Blknight.aus]

motor bike shops, push bike shops and places like supercheap carry it in various forms.

[RANDLOVER]

There are companies that will foam fill them.
We used to get Industrial Sweeper tyres foam filled to make them puncture proof.

Try a forklift tyre place like Tyrefill Pty Ltd Melbourne (http://www.tyrefill.com.au/contact.html)
Not sure of price so it may not be economical..........



Colin

The economical solution might be to cut up a "pool noodle" ?

[Blknight.aus]

The economical solution might be to cut up a "pool noodle" ?

doesnt last it just breaks up into dust.

[POD]

doesnt last it just breaks up into dust.

That would be my expectation with the expanding foam also, I have contemplated it a few times but I reckon it would just crumble.
Bought a bottle of the green slime today, should be enough to do most of my small tyres and about the same price as one solid wheelbarrow tyre so worth a try.

[trout1105]

I have had solid tyres on my ride on mower for about 10 years now and apart from a little bit of wear they are still in fantastic condition and i have NEVER had a flat tyre on the machine[thumbsupbig]

I have upgraded ALL of the jockey wheels on my boat trailers, trailers and caravan to fat solid wheels which are a Vast improvement over the the inflatable and the nasty skinny hard wheels that were fitted previously, I also have these on my bag trolley and wheelbarrow .

The average cost was about $30 a wheel (the lawnmower came with the solids) and in my own opinion it was money well spent because i got sick and tired of repairing or replacing flat or destroyed tyres on trailers and other tools with small tyres on them [thumbsupbig]

[Saitch]

Pod, I'd be sticking with pneumatic on the weed sprayer. We have a 150 litre spray tank which normally travels in the ATV tray but sometimes, is carried in a 200 kg rated, pneumatic tyred trailer, behind the ride-on. I wouldn't like to transport that equipment in a solid tyred trailer. I reckon having a bit of cushioning is better.

[superquag]

Funny how everyone is whingeing about tiny tyres deflating themselves when not in use.... maybe pay a few dollars more to buy tubes "Made anywhere except China".

What was that ? Everywhere else has gone out of business due to cheapo Chinese tubes.... Ah well. you get what you pay for.[bigsad]

[V8Ian]

Funny how everyone is whingeing about tiny tyres deflating themselves when not in use.... maybe pay a few dollars more to buy tubes "Made anywhere except China".

What was that ? Everywhere else has gone out of business due to cheapo Chinese tubes.... Ah well. you get what you pay for.[bigsad]
Are such things available?

[superquag]

VERY much doubt it now.... "everyone" buys on cheap price, so a quality product ain't gunna sell....

[Bigbjorn]

Foam filling was popular for a while on small equipment like skid steer loaders. A problem is that when the tyre is badly damaged and has to be changed. The foam filling does not compress to get the bead into the well and remove the tyre. The tyre has to be cut up on the wheel to remove it.

[Fatso]

I got myself a Ryobi 18v battery op electric hand type pump and just pump em up until next time . W tire falls to bits just get a newie from Bunnings , not much you can do with the junk we have to deal with .

[Homestar]

I got myself a Ryobi 18v battery op electric hand type pump and just pump em up until next time . W tire falls to bits just get a newie from Bunnings , not much you can do with the junk we have to deal with .

Was going to mention one of those battery tire inflators - I’ve got the Ryobi one too and it’s a cracker for things like that. [emoji106]

[Tote]

This is the only wheelbarrow tyre that I have that doesn't go flat, everything else is crap. No brand on it and I have no idea how old it is. The wheelbarrow had holes in it when we acquired it with the house 18 years ago but it still works as a woodbox.

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Tote

[Blknight.aus]

Are such things available?

yep,

[POD]

Yep I'm well aware that the problem is that the tyres are made in china and are therefore nothing but crap that lasts long enough to be sold and taken home. My two builders wheelbarrows are about 35 years old and until the original tyres perished a few years ago had hardly ever had a flat. Since replacing with what was available, flats are commonplace. All the other equipment pretty much has the crap chicom tyres it came with so have flats all the time. One significant factor against buying solids is that they will almost certainly come from the same damn place. If decent non-chicom tyres are available in sizes like 6"x2" please let me know where I can buy them.

[Gav 110]

Have the same issue with the cement mixer at the farm
Stays in the shed when not in use and every time it gets pulled out, flat tyres
Pump them up, hook it on the tow hitch and within about 200 metres, bang
15psi and they just shred
Dug out a couple of mini rims and tyres
Found an old 35mm axle
Down to Martins trailer spares to see if I can get som hubs to suit tomorrow [emoji1531]
Don’t make them like they used to[emoji22]

[ramblingboy42]

Don’t make them like they used to....quote

I think they do , they were always crap....still are.

[austastar]

Hi,
I replaced the two original tires and tubes on a lightweight garden barrow we inherited.
Local tyre place got the in for me, yep, Chinese.
They have only been inflated once in the 18 months or so since fitting.
Similar with the 70 year old builder's barrow I refurbished. New tyre and tube stay inflated for years. Both live outside in the yard.
Cheers

[4bee]

Don’t make them like they used to....quote

I think they do , they were always crap....still are.




I guess one has to identify whether it is a Puncture or general rubber (?) quality.


For general prickles, my Mower bloke slips a piece of heavy (thick) carpet in between the tyre & Tube. Doesn't stop the prickles but does eliminate the punctures.

Sometimes it just pays to chuck a tube that routinely deflates through material quality. Job Done.

[Gav 110]

Don’t make them like they used to....quote

I think they do , they were always crap....still are.

As POD said the old tyres seem to last

I’ve pulled a couple of old barrows out of a bin, the original owner yells at me and tells me there rooted
He was right, the barrow “tubs” were well and truely stuffed, flat tyres but the handles and rims looked good so I took them anyways
Repaired one and swapped the tubs from another barrow, new tubes and wulla, wheel barrows fit for any farm
Tyres are good, yes they do go flat but makes it easier in the middle of summer pushing through the soft sand

My boys have gotten a few bmxs off verde collection, some of them are from the late 90s early naughties and on the original tyres
Some of the new tyres only last a couple of years before they crack up and blow out

The new tyres are probably made in the same factory as Infinity cable was[emoji12]

[austastar]

Hi,
I used to cycle commute 10km to town and would expect 3 or 4 roadside puncture repairs a year.
Thin, high pressure tyres don't handle small glass shards very well.
I tried rubber inserts for a while, but the best protection was green slime. Often I would see the green oozing through the tyre where glass had cut through, but the slime had sealed the puncture enough to complete the trip.
Cheers

[V8Ian]

Modern tubes have less, if any, rubber in the composition.

[4bee]

Modern tubes have less, if any, rubber in the composition.

That is why I used a (?)

[V8Ian]

https://youtu.be/-fusUxEPwsw

[Gav 110]

https://youtu.be/-fusUxEPwsw

Maybe we go back to the wooden wheel [emoji1531]

What’s that noise I hear????
Look out it’s the greenies rustling in the bushes[emoji12]

[4bee]

Maybe we go back to the wooden wheel [emoji1531]

What’s that noise I hear????
Look out it’s the greenies rustling in the bushes[emoji12]


.......or cast off Millstones which have excellent road holding ability apparently.

[gromit]

Modern tubes have less, if any, rubber in the composition.

When I was on motorcycles back in the UK I fitted a cheap inner tube. Problem was that when it punctured it deflated instantly so I went back to Michelin tubes which typically deflated slowly when punctured. I think this was when the cheap ones started to use less rubber.

Back to small equipment tyres.....has anyone actually checked what it costs to foam fill ?
You retain some of the features of a pneumatic tyre, they fill the tube with a polyurethane foam which sets overnight.

I have a concrete mixer with a flat tyre, the tube split. Struggling to even locate a cheap tube of the correct size, seems I need to buy new wheels ! There is a place in Bayswater that keeps a lot of small inner tubes but not the size I'm after.


Colin

[ramblingboy42]

Every place I ever worked , which is a lot , had hand trolleys and wheeled equipment with flat tyres.

Never difficult to repair , it was above the level of most of the prima donna engineering tradesmen I met.

[POD]

Yep they're not at all difficult to repair, perhaps I too am a prima donna but when I want to split a load of firewood, that's what I want to do, not fix the damn tyres on the splitter. Same when I want to move something in the shed- sick of having to fix the tyres on the trolley first. Wind has died down and it's time to spray some weeds- but wait, you have to fix the tyres on the spray unit first. Just nipping over to the wood shed to fill the barrow with firewood....

I've bought a bottle of the green slime, I guess I should treat some tyres now so I don't have to do it next time I want to use something with tyres. But I'm in the middle of fixing something else (when I finish this coffee!) so it'll probably have to wait until I need to spray some weeds, split some wood, move something in the shed....

If the slime lets me down (ha ha) I'll look into the foam fill but honestly it sounds like it's bound to be expensive.

[JDNSW]

When I was on motorcycles back in the UK I fitted a cheap inner tube. Problem was that when it punctured it deflated instantly so I went back to Michelin tubes which typically deflated slowly when punctured. I think this was when the cheap ones started to use less rubber.

Back to small equipment tyres.....has anyone actually checked what it costs to foam fill ?
You retain some of the features of a pneumatic tyre, they fill the tube with a polyurethane foam which sets overnight.

I have a concrete mixer with a flat tyre, the tube split. Struggling to even locate a cheap tube of the correct size, seems I need to buy new wheels ! There is a place in Bayswater that keeps a lot of small inner tubes but not the size I'm after.


Colin

I have a concrete mixer with two flat and split tyres (both tube and tyre split) I think I will be looking for some solid tyred wheels.....

[trout1105]

I have a concrete mixer with two flat and split tyres (both tube and tyre split) I think I will be looking for some solid tyred wheels.....


Once you go solids you wont ever be tempted to use pneumatic tyres ever again[thumbsupbig]

[austastar]

Haven't pumped them up in 70 years.
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[scarry]

Haven't pumped them up in 70 years.
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Mate of mine has one of those,very similar.

You won't believe what he uses it for,mixes up the food for the greyhounds in it.

[austastar]

Hi,
Yep, mix compost, mulch as well.
Even washed overalls that were too disgusting to present to the Mrs after a particularly cheesey caving trip.
Dad bought it when I was about 3.
Cheers

[V8Ian]

Mate of mine has one of those,very similar.

You won't believe what he uses it for,mixes up the food for the greyhounds in it.
Hardened up greyhounds? [bighmmm]

[incisor]

put foam filled tryes on my mixer nearly 10 years ago and they still look and work like new.

they were ebay specials

[ramblingboy42]

after Cyclone Tracy everyone driving around Darwin carried several cans of "zzzssshhh" , I think it was called.

A local trader called "yankee al" bought in hundreds of cartons of the stuff, "yankee al " was a landmark in Darwin on the highway at Stuart Pk.

my motorbike had been zzzsshhed a number of times