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esamari
2nd September 2020, 12:58 PM
Hi All,

I have been getting a strange wheel shimmy on my 2015 110. Tyres have been road force balanced and wheel alignment done.


The shimmy is slight but I need to get it rectified, if I can find the problem.

At highway speeds I can have smooth driving and as I go around a long curve on the HW the shimmy will fade in and out. It lasts about 10 seconds and then goes smooth again.

I have checked the bearings and there is no movement, and am thinking this may be a swivel housing seal or CV joint issue. Anyone else experience this and found the source?

rick130
2nd September 2020, 04:28 PM
Swivel pre-load too low, panhard rod clevis bolt loose or bushes buggered or even a buggered shock can cause shimmy, although with a dodgy damper you really need to hit a bump during cornering to set it off

When the alignment was done, did they give it toe out?
A lot of shops that have never done a full time 4wd Land Rover before set toe in instead of toe out

esamari
2nd September 2020, 06:39 PM
Thanks Rick. Just checked and they are set at 0 for both left and right. There was no change in the shimmy. It was same before and after alignment.

rick130
2nd September 2020, 06:44 PM
0 will be fine.

The specs are 0-2mm toe out

Tote
2nd September 2020, 06:46 PM
Tyre condition? I have had some really weird vibrations with tyres that are down to their last 25%

Regards,
Tote

muddy
2nd September 2020, 07:48 PM
Try a tyre rotation had similar problem or you may have to buy new front tyres

esamari
2nd September 2020, 08:22 PM
Tyres have >70% thread left. I have rotated tyres a couple of times now with no luck. I'll start with bushes and the the swivel preload, seals etc as Rick mentioned. Steering Damper is in good condition and I have tried a couple of different ones to see if it was the damper and am sure thats not it.

HardCharger
3rd September 2020, 04:48 PM
Sorry, double post

HardCharger
3rd September 2020, 04:49 PM
Did you re-balance the tires? It's usually good practice to re-balance the tires when you rotate them. I've always done this and had no problems.

Another thing to look at is perhaps your suspension bushings need replacing already.

esamari
3rd September 2020, 09:58 PM
Checked the panhard bracket bolts that attach to the chassis on the driver side today and seemed to need a bit tightening. Checked manual and tightened to 123 ft lb as per manual. Shimmy was reduced quite a bit. I think I'll do the panhard bushes next as they probably deteriorated a bit from the vibration. I am leaning towards genuine bushes but would poly pros be better?

rick130
4th September 2020, 05:47 AM
Super Pro are good, the factory ones should be fine there, just make sure there isn't too much clearance between the steel crush tube and bolt.
I've shimmed a couple over the years with shim stock wrapped inside the crush tube.

Phil B
4th September 2020, 09:07 AM
Don’t forget to check the bolts on the damper and panhard. Worn or incorrect sized bolts can also cause the wobbles

Mudnut
8th September 2020, 03:28 PM
Just replaced my front shocks. Had 15yo Bilstins in, and the RH one was knackered. Put in Koni Raid 90's. Got rid of the steering wander, and death wobbles when I hit bumps during cornering. Could also be the rubber bushes on your shocks???

Jost some more things to check.

Cheers,

Ken

350RRC
8th September 2020, 05:49 PM
If you go poly, Super Pro are great. i.e. the one and only.

DL