It's getting up there!

[LGM]

On a trip to and from Perth over the week just gone my D4 HSE turned over 300,000km. I bought it new in 2011 and it has now reached what I reckon is a bit of a milestone. I have never previously kept a vehicle, for my primary drive, as long, nor for as many Km's as I have with this D4.
Seeing those K's tick over the 300,000k mark got me to thinking, where to now?
I am wondering should I keep it, or move it on and get something else a little newer.
That said, I could just keep plugging away with the D4, which, by the way, is not too shabby. It has only ever let me down once (recently and in fairness that was a brake light switch) so I really do not have lack of confidence in the D4. It has been serviced to the LR Arduous Conditions Schedule (13,000km intervals) from new, which is way better than the norm. If anything is has been over serviced. But I am still left wondering what may be around the corner if you get my drift?
Haven't really seen anything that takes my fancy at the moment.........but the old brain cells have awakened.........a little at least.

[Greg4427]

On a trip to and from Perth over the week just gone my D4 HSE turned over 300,000km. I bought it new in 2011 and it has now reached what I reckon is a bit of a milestone. I have never previously kept a vehicle, for my primary drive, as long, nor for as many Km's as I have with this D4.
Seeing those K's tick over the 300,000k mark got me to thinking, where to now?
I am wondering should I keep it, or move it on and get something else a little newer.
That said, I could just keep plugging away with the D4, which, by the way, is not too shabby. It has only ever let me down once (recently and in fairness that was a brake light switch) so I really do not have lack of confidence in the D4. It has been serviced to the LR Arduous Conditions Schedule (13,000km intervals) from new, which is way better than the norm. If anything is has been over serviced. But I am still left wondering what may be around the corner if you get my drift?
Haven't really seen anything that takes my fancy at the moment.........but the old brain cells have awakened.........a little at least.

Well, I’ve a 2015 MY16 with 110K now and am mightily impressed with your mostly trouble free 300K! I can only hope that I have the same good fortune as you. Keep it going...........[biggrin]

[PerthDisco]

On a trip to and from Perth over the week just gone my D4 HSE turned over 300,000km. I bought it new in 2011 and it has now reached what I reckon is a bit of a milestone. I have never previously kept a vehicle, for my primary drive, as long, nor for as many Km's as I have with this D4.
Seeing those K's tick over the 300,000k mark got me to thinking, where to now?
I am wondering should I keep it, or move it on and get something else a little newer.
That said, I could just keep plugging away with the D4, which, by the way, is not too shabby. It has only ever let me down once (recently and in fairness that was a brake light switch) so I really do not have lack of confidence in the D4. It has been serviced to the LR Arduous Conditions Schedule (13,000km intervals) from new, which is way better than the norm. If anything is has been over serviced. But I am still left wondering what may be around the corner if you get my drift?
Haven't really seen anything that takes my fancy at the moment.........but the old brain cells have awakened.........a little at least.

Still original shocks, air bags, wheel bearings and fuel injection? You are coming close to the second change of timing belts.

[Tombie]

What’s around the corner is still a damn site cheaper than a new vehicle. [emoji41]

[Tombie]

Still original shocks, air bags, wheel bearings and fuel injection? You are coming close to the second change of timing belts.

No. He’s passed the second change by 100k.

[stealth]

My 2003 Defender 130 single cab ute has just clocked 400,000.
Given there is no new option it has been decided at my age of 61 years that this old warrior will soldier on and will be required to carry me for at least another 20 years. (If I last that long)

[Tombie]

We ordered a new Defender, and cancelled it a few months ago.
We’ve looked at options and pretty much given up on the idea of changing or buying another vehicle.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 2 we have, they run like a dream and are in mint condition.

The financials just don’t stack up - it’s literally change for the sake of change (victim of consumerism at best) and we decided not to waste cash on upgrading and use the $$ to travel and do other things.

Even with my planned “mid life” on the D4, it’s only a $10k outlay for all new suspension etc.

[DiscoJeffster]

We ordered a new Defender, and cancelled it a few months ago.
We’ve looked at options and pretty much given up on the idea of changing or buying another vehicle.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 2 we have, they run like a dream and are in mint condition.

The financials just don’t stack up - it’s literally change for the sake of change (victim of consumerism at best) and we decided not to waste cash on upgrading and use the $$ to travel and do other things.

Even with my planned “mid life” on the D4, it’s only a $10k outlay for all new suspension etc.

The new Defer is soooo expensive (well when you use the online spec tool). Really hard to justify.

[twr7cx]

I am wondering should I keep it, or move it on and get something else a little newer.

With the age and kms it's resale value is likely fairly low now. Personally, given that it satisfies your needs and requirements, that would make me look towards keeping it and extracting as much out of it as possible.



No. He’s passed the second change by 100k.

Aren't the timing belts due every 7 years / 168,000km? For a 2011 vehicle it would mean 2025 on time or at 336,000km (or which ever came first/combination of)?



Even with my planned “mid life” on the D4, it’s only a $10k outlay for all new suspension etc.

Out of interest, what is on your 'to-do' list for the "mid life" refresh?

[PeterJ]

We ordered a new Defender, and cancelled it a few months ago.
We’ve looked at options and pretty much given up on the idea of changing or buying another vehicle.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 2 we have, they run like a dream and are in mint condition.

The financials just don’t stack up - it’s literally change for the sake of change (victim of consumerism at best) and we decided not to waste cash on upgrading and use the $$ to travel and do other things.

Even with my planned “mid life” on the D4, it’s only a $10k outlay for all new suspension etc.

+1 for this idea Mike, I have made the same decision, 300,000km would be a dream outcome ......... Peter

[LGM]

Thanks for those who took the time to read my musing over my D4.
For those who have commented on maintenance items such as timing belts etc. please be advised they have all been part of the standard service schedule which has been followed (and where it made good sense, exceeded) to the letter. The additional stuff such as fluid change in the auto trans has been done on a regular basis along with the internal filter. The suspension stuff inclusive of the rear arms as well has been refreshed all around. As any issue has arisen the items have been addressed. I can be a bit obsessive that way! My only concern now is how long the engine and auto trans will hold up. I have explored the re-manufactured engine option and checked out the A & B auto trans change over costs. When you consider the cost of these two items they would, once fitted, most likely exceed the current value of the vehicle!
That said both of those items seem to be quite o.k. at this time. Gee.....hope I have not put a mozz on myself with that last comment!

I know all your comments re keeping the vehicle are logical and make sense. However, and there is always a 'however' isn't there? The old 'consumer' devil is climbing onto my shoulder......just a little.

[Hoges]

They may well exceed the resale value of the vehicle, but are probably less than 3 years of depreciation on a new vehicle...?
Perhaps an option for 'forward' planning is to get the major items refurb'd then reconsider in say 3 yrs time?...just a thought![bighmmm]

[DiscoDB]

Anyone who recalls the regret of selling their D2 because it was getting on in age and Kms should now look at the D3 or D4 the same way.

Rather than buying a high depreciating newer vehicle imagine what you could do to improve the D3/4 with the same spend.

And let’s admit it - the D3 and D4 looks much better than a D5..... [emoji12]

[twr7cx]

My only concern now is how long the engine and auto trans will hold up. I have explored the re-manufactured engine option and checked out the A & B auto trans change over costs. When you consider the cost of these two items they would, once fitted, most likely exceed the current value of the vehicle!
That said both of those items seem to be quite o.k. at this time.

I'd therefore consider the vehicle to have little to no value and continue to use it to extract maximum gain from it while continuing to maintain and service it to prolong it's life to the maximum, but if either of those two big ticket items died, then get rid of it for scrap/wrecking value.

[Tombie]

My midlife is planned at this stage as follows:

Full suspension change out - UCA/LCA F&R, new bags/shocks, Sway bar bushes.
Overhaul compressor, new sensors on all 4 corners.
Inner and outers on rack,
Wheel bearings on all corners
All fluids and filters
New brake lines
New rear rotors and EPB shoes
And a full detail [emoji6]

[Tombie]

I'd therefore consider the vehicle to have little to no value and continue to use it to extract maximum gain from it while continuing to maintain and service it to prolong it's life to the maximum, but if either of those two big ticket items died, then get rid of it for scrap/wrecking value.

That’s based on a value equation - eg trade in
Which is a consumption based thought process.

If the vehicle is in good condition, and you throw $15k of parts at it, that’s still far more financially economical than throwing $90k on a new one and then kitting it out.

If you then get 5 years out of it, that will be $3k a year. Much cheaper than repayments on a new one. Then sell it for $5k and move on. Makes it $2k a year.

[BrianElloy]

We ordered a new Defender, and cancelled it a few months ago.
We’ve looked at options and pretty much given up on the idea of changing or buying another vehicle.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 2 we have, they run like a dream and are in mint condition.

The financials just don’t stack up - it’s literally change for the sake of change (victim of consumerism at best) and we decided not to waste cash on upgrading and use the $$ to travel and do other things.

Even with my planned “mid life” on the D4, it’s only a $10k outlay for all new suspension etc.

Probably saved yourself a world of pain with the new Deefer mate. The interweb is buzzing with notable initial quality issues.1

[ATH]

My elder bro insists on sending me adverse reports about the new Defender and LR quality generally. I don't know why as he drives an FL2 and has had it for 7 years without too many probs and him and his dearly beloved had his and her RRs for many years. Plus always new ones each every couple of years. Rich *****. :)
Seems his daughter and her friends had problems engaging Hill Descent, or finding out how to engage it when faced with a steep downward slope. Pity they didn't read the manual prior to driving off to do a bit of yahooing through the hills around Zurich or observe what the terrain was like they were heading into first.
He also reckons they've had other troubles but as yet hasn't been forthcoming as to what they were exactly. I shall make further inquires.....
AlanH.

PS. Why he should be keeping a car 7 years old now I don't know unless he likes the idea of dying even richer than he is.

[LGM]

When I started to think on the D4 and what to do next I was in a bit of a quandary trying to justify in my head that (as a retired person) getting rid of a fair bit of loot on another vehicle would make my endorphins flow a bit better or some such reason.....

The comments from folks re retaining the D4, which I have referred to previously, all make sense and strike the logical note. But in truth logic and sense has little to do with what is going on in my thoughts right now. If I take a helicopter view of myself it seems to me that emotion, vanity, and a bit of the 'look at me, look at what I have got' I want to feel good stuff has been stirred up.

What has caused this I wonder? I am well beyond a mid life crisis!

I have started to trawl the CarSales and other web based vehicle sales sites looking at LR's.....what about a TDV8 RR sport 2014 model????? Dreaming......no matter what I do at the moment I keep coming back to this nagging thought that says, when you do up a 2011 D4 what have you got to show for all the work. Exactly, a 2011 D4!

Reckon I need to get outside and occupy myself on other stuff to take my mind of the subject and trust these thoughts will pass! My worry is the genie is out of the bottle.......[bigsad]

[Tombie]

LGM. Completely understand those thoughts mate!

For most of my life if I had to register a vehicle twice I had kept it too long [emoji41]
By the time I was 27 I had spent over a Million dollars on cars and didn’t have any of them.

Lara (110 TR) was the first I kept more than 2 years and went at 7 years, and the D4 is now 9 years old and going strong.

I still smile when I look at it.

For late life crisis - the Katana fits the bill...

[DiscoDB]

LGM - the classic head vs heart dilemma.

Maybe you need to get yourself something to play with on the side.

For me that is a 2008 BMW 3 series.

[LGM]

I did wonder what was going on.......thanks for the clarification Tombie. A Katana eh....yep I can picture that sort of thing. Had a Thruxton myself but got rid of it when I woke up to the fact that the bike was far more capable that the old fart riding it! Wonder if a later model D4 would fit the bill.....just sayin.....

[Graeme]

Nah, too similar to what you already drive. Have a look at MY16+ L405 for something different.

[Tombie]

I have lots of toys.... all keep the mind busy and the soul happy.

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And the D4 continues to evolve ever so slowly.

Then there’s the Gelsoft builds, skirmish games, electronic builds for AULRO people (must get back into some of them)

Wish I could be doing them now - but stuck in Hospital - bloody Gallbladder [emoji856][emoji35]

[rick130]

Wish I could be doing them now - but stuck in Hospital - bloody Gallbladder [emoji856][emoji35]Bugger, hope it all goes well Mike [emoji482]

[Tombie]

Bugger, hope it all goes well Mike [emoji482]

Find out tomorrow. I’m betting it’s coming out.

[scarry]

Find out tomorrow. I’m betting it’s coming out.

Gee thats no good[bigsad]

Hope it all goes well.

[DiscoMick]

All the best for the gall bladder.

[Tombie]

All the best for the gall bladder.

Thanks Mick.


Looks like Operation day is Friday down in Adelaide.

[Chris_Falcon]

Thanks Mick.


Looks like Operation day is Friday down in Adelaide.

All the best Tombie

[Mog60]

Yes, all the best to you Tombie.

Peter

[DiscoDB]

Tombie making some improvements.....

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.....whilst the Toyota owner just looks bored!

[DiscoMick]

Thanks Mick.


Looks like Operation day is Friday down in Adelaide.Whip it out. We don't need it. Just means the liver drips continually into the digestive system, instead of being stored in the gall bladder, to go rotten.

[Bohica]

I have a D2a with 335k on the clock, I plan on keeping it for almost ever. I'll get rid if it, maybe when the engine dies. Then again a rebuilt TD5 is easy enough to do. If the car is written off, I'd look at buying a D4, maybe, and keep that car, until it too dies.
It seems to me pointless to spend large amount of money on a brand new car, when the current car is going well.

[gotaflat]

On a trip to and from Perth over the week just gone my D4 HSE turned over 300,000km. I bought it new in 2011 and it has now reached what I reckon is a bit of a milestone. I have never previously kept a vehicle, for my primary drive, as long, nor for as many Km's as I have with this D4.
Seeing those K's tick over the 300,000k mark got me to thinking, where to now?
I am wondering should I keep it, or move it on and get something else a little newer.
That said, I could just keep plugging away with the D4, which, by the way, is not too shabby. It has only ever let me down once (recently and in fairness that was a brake light switch) so I really do not have lack of confidence in the D4. It has been serviced to the LR Arduous Conditions Schedule (13,000km intervals) from new, which is way better than the norm. If anything is has been over serviced. But I am still left wondering what may be around the corner if you get my drift?
Haven't really seen anything that takes my fancy at the moment.........but the old brain cells have awakened.........a little at least.

Just chiming in - 337,000kms so far. bought New as well - 2011 Disco 4 (HSE 3.0 SDV6) and keeps on going and love it. Lucky so far - but have had the turbos re built - but they leak and are being re fitted with new factory ones under warranty. Manifold cracked and replaced at 260,000. about to do the turbos as mentioned/ also 2nd timing belt with HPFP etc. Maybe a another set of air struts/shocks all round.

We do long drives in most cases so no real stop start.

only minor other issues - but suspect the g box or TC is under pressure - its a big one to rebuild. Unfortunately trade it or sale is going to hurt - no matter what we do - it will stay in the family :)

any one who gets in it feels it drives like new.

[Tombie]

Whip it out. We don't need it. Just means the liver drips continually into the digestive system, instead of being stored in the gall bladder, to go rotten.

It’s gone now! Went under the knife around 16:00 and back in my room by 19:00

Will head back to Whyalla in the morning.

[Tombie]

Tombie making some improvements.....

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.....whilst the Toyota owner just looks bored!

Yeah. I cannot wait to get out of hospital tomorrow and back home.

[DiscoMick]

It’s gone now! Went under the knife around 16:00 and back in my room by 19:00

Will head back to Whyalla in the morning.Good news! How much weight did you lose? [emoji16]

[Tombie]

Good news! How much weight did you lose? [emoji16]

About 2 stones [emoji12][emoji41]


But seriously I’m down 57.6kg from my start point.

[scarry]

About 2 stones [emoji12][emoji41]


But seriously I’m down 57.6kg from my start point.

:eek2:

Thats excellent.

[Tombie]

:eek2:

Thats excellent.

Works out expensive. Had to buy a whole new wardrobe.

[jspyle]

Wouldn't you have been wiser to buy clothes?

[Tombie]

Wouldn't you have been wiser to buy clothes?

Dammit. That explains the breeze.