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travelrover
24th January 2021, 10:06 AM
Hi team

Has anyone replaced the factory radio in their Puma and now have this and PIN ‘surplus to requirements’?

I am looking for an original Land Rover unit to install in my Td5 as the original radio is slowly dying.

Cheers - Simon

Grappler
24th January 2021, 03:23 PM
Ive got one Im willing to part with out of my 2012 130 Puma
Complete with code and aerial adaptor

PM sent

travelrover
24th January 2021, 04:52 PM
Ive got one Im willing to part with out of my 2012 130 Puma
Complete with code and aerial adaptor

PM sent

Thanks Grappler, unfortunately my mailbox was full so I didn’t receive your PM. Have cleared it now so if you could resend that would be great!

Cheers - Simon

oldyella 76
24th January 2021, 08:15 PM
I also have but looks if you are ok. I took mine out due to a crappy land rover radio I put a Kenwood in its' place and I get much better reception when the original would not work.
Lindsay

travelrover
24th January 2021, 08:18 PM
I also have but looks if you are ok. I took mine out due to a crappy land rover radio I put a Kenwood in its' place and I get much better reception when the original would not work.
Lindsay

Thanks Lindsay

Yup all sorted now ;-)

Cheers Simon

travelrover
6th February 2021, 10:53 AM
Ok I have my ‘new’ 2012 Puma radio and looked [emoji102] at installing it this morning in the Td5.

Unsurprisingly the plugs are quite different.

Am sure I read somewhere on here that there is an adapter cable that will fix the problem available from one of the regular accessory outlets...

Standard Td5 plug

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/a44bf1b2c31937cf89e18b1287620da8.jpg

New 2012 Puma plug...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/c1108d9b1132f2d4131d698c34cabbbb.jpg


And this cable was in the box...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/cf9fdd9ea1b12d63337df5a93dc1af2c.jpg


Has anyone had experience swapping these units? Is there an adapter available off the shelf, or do I need a trip to my local sparkie?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers Simon

Dorian
8th February 2021, 01:12 PM
I'd start with a call to your nearest car sound place, they usually have an extensive catalogue of the things.
I've used my local Car Sound a couple of times. You will need to give them the make, model and part number of the old and new units.


Cheers Glen

Tote
8th February 2021, 02:26 PM
Aerpro seem to make most of the adapter cables that are available - Link to site Landrover Defender 2007-2015 | Aerpro (https://aerpro.com/vehicles/landrover/landrover-defender-2007-2015#-)

The factory cable on the later Pumas is a native cable to suit Alpine headunits and looks like the white plug on this cable Alpine CDE-133EBT | Aerpro (https://aerpro.com/headunit/alpine/cde-133ebt)

If the adapter cable above fits you are good. The Aerpro site says that the cable in the second link works for a range of Landrovers with single DIN radios such as Disco 2 and Freelander as well as Defenders

The other way to fix it would be to splice the connector that comes with the radio into the TD5 harness which should not be too difficult.


Regards,
Tote

travelrover
8th February 2021, 02:37 PM
Aerpro seem to make most of the adapter cables that are available - Link to site Landrover Defender 2007-2015 | Aerpro (https://aerpro.com/vehicles/landrover/landrover-defender-2007-2015#-)

The factory cable on the later Pumas is a native cable to suit Alpine headunits and looks like the white plug on this cable Alpine CDE-133EBT | Aerpro (https://aerpro.com/headunit/alpine/cde-133ebt)

If the adapter cable above fits you are good. The Aerpro site says that the cable in the second link works for a range of Landrovers with single DIN radios such as Disco 2 and Freelander as well as Defenders

The other way to fix it would be to splice the connector that comes with the radio into the TD5 harness which should not be too difficult.


Regards,
Tote


Thanks Tote

I was looking at those in Supercheap yesterday, but they had a pretty limited range. I called my local auto sparkie and it was all a little hard for him, he wanted to see circuit diagrams but I can find any for the Puma.

Cheers - Simon

Tote
8th February 2021, 02:48 PM
Thanks Tote

I was looking at those in Supercheap yesterday, but they had a pretty limited range. I called my local auto sparkie and it was all a little hard for him, he wanted to see circuit diagrams but I can find any for the Puma.

Cheers - Simon

If it was me I'd order the connector cable that they suggest (or if you can find it locally pick one up) and take a punt that it fits, if the plugs work the wiring should be good. The manual for the head unit should have the wiring diagram in it, if not I can probably fined one from one of my Alpine units.

Regards,
Tote

travelrover
8th February 2021, 02:55 PM
Yeah thats what I was thinking. There seem to be a few agents in the area so I’ll have a phone around.

There was no manual with the head unit (2nd hand) but should be in my wife’s Puma which is the same year.

Cheers Simon

Tote
8th February 2021, 06:46 PM
Yeah thats what I was thinking. There seem to be a few agents in the area so I’ll have a phone around.

There was no manual with the head unit (2nd hand) but should be in my wife’s Puma which is the same year.

Cheers Simon

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Wiring diagram from a latish model Alpine stereo, I'm reasonably sure the plugs should be the same although not all wires would be used in the Puma.

Regards,
Tote

travelrover
8th February 2021, 06:50 PM
Thanks again Tote

I can’t find a cable in the second link it seems to refer to a discontinued Alpine radio or am I missing something?

Tote
8th February 2021, 07:35 PM
Sorry, click on do not retain steering wheel control;s and it points to the same adapter cable Aerpro | First Choice (https://aerpro.com/app8alp#)

The only thing I'm not sure about is the cable you have in the Defer photo does not look like tit will fit into the DIN end of the adapter cable yet the Aerpro pages says it suits disco 2 and Defender Puma.

Edit, is the cable you are holding in the picture one or two plugs? also does the cable that came with the radio fit in the plug at the back of it? It looks like it should.

Regards,
Tote

travelrover
8th February 2021, 07:49 PM
The blurry photo is one plug. The plug that came with the new one does plug into both the top slots on the new radio..

Edit: the cable in the link looks like it might go the trick!

ian4002000
9th February 2021, 06:37 PM
I didnt have a lot of trouble replacing the radio in my Puma. The plug is wired for four speakers and two power wires. use a multi meter to work out which wores are connected to the speakers and find which power wire is connected to the accesory circuit.
The original radio had very poor reception and i now get three times better distance from Melbourne before i lose radio stations.

Ian
Bittern

travelrover
9th February 2021, 06:43 PM
I didnt have a lot of trouble replacing the radio in my Puma. The plug is wired for four speakers and two power wires. use a multi meter to work out which wores are connected to the speakers and find which power wire is connected to the accesory circuit.
The original radio had very poor reception and i now get three times better distance from Melbourne before i lose radio stations.

Ian
Bittern

Thanks Ian

I am actually trying to put a 2012 Puma radio into my 1999 Td5. The reception has been getting worse over the years. It’s proving a little more difficult than I anticipated.

We also have a 2012 Puma and that radio is great even in marginal coverage locations.

Cheers Simon

travelrover
27th February 2021, 12:45 PM
Ok finally got the 2012 Puma radio installed to replace the original cassette unit in my ‘99 Td5 and I must admit, very disappointed with the performance. As mentioned previously we have a 2012 puma and the radio in that works well and is identical to the one I just installed in the Td5.

It seems the signal at the radio is not strong as it starts hunting for stations. Admittedly I haven’t had a look in the handbook as it’s in the puma which the wife has at work. So maybe just selecting different parameters might fix the problem.

But am wondering what else might be causing this. As best I can tell the antennas are the same, LR030590. Is there some sort of additional filter somewhere in the system?

We listen to same radio station in all three defenders, even the 300Tdi original radio works fine! It’s just the Td5 that has a problem.

Tote
28th February 2021, 12:09 PM
Ok finally got the 2012 Puma radio installed to replace the original cassette unit in my ‘99 Td5 and I must admit, very disappointed with the performance. As mentioned previously we have a 2012 puma and the radio in that works well and is identical to the one I just installed in the Td5.

It seems the signal at the radio is not strong as it starts hunting for stations. Admittedly I haven’t had a look in the handbook as it’s in the puma which the wife has at work. So maybe just selecting different parameters might fix the problem.

But am wondering what else might be causing this. As best I can tell the antennas are the same, LR030590. Is there some sort of additional filter somewhere in the system?

We listen to same radio station in all three defenders, even the 300Tdi original radio works fine! It’s just the Td5 that has a problem.

Antennas can make a huge difference, after getting tired of replacing broken masts on the tractor I went for an antenna that is supposedly for broadcast bands mounted on a CB base. It isn't as good as the crappy cowl mount ones that were mounted on the side of the cab. Maybe try a new antenna?

Regards,
Tote