Coolant- Topped up with wrong stuff.

[Dagilmo]

Hi All,

Ive topped up with 500ml of Penrite Red coolant. Then I though I should think about a flush so I started searching about that and have found that I should be using Penrite's Blue coolant. Mental note to self: do the research before hand in future....

Is the 500mls of red a problem?

[p38arover]

Maybe ask Penrite. Not being facetious as it’s definitely a question I couldn’t answer and I’d want advice from the experts.

(My cars have all used glycol based (green) coolant.)

[loanrangie]

Hi All,

Ive topped up with 500ml of Penrite Red coolant. Then I though I should think about a flush so I started searching about that and have found that I should be using Penrite's Blue coolant. Mental note to self: do the research before hand in future....

Is the 500mls of red a problem?

If it was red OAT already in it then no problem.

[Dagilmo]

Maybe ask Penrite. Not being facetious as it’s definitely a question I couldn’t answer and I’d want advice from the experts.

(My cars have all used glycol based (green) coolant.)

Good idea. Thanks!

[Dagilmo]

If it was red OAT already in it then no problem.

I'm second owner and have had it two years, I doubt it's been changed. With the handbook saying Havolene XLC which is silicate free and the Penrite blue silicate free but the red not silicate free, I'm guessing he red is not compatible with the current coolant. Just not sure if 500mls in 10 odd ltrs is an issue.

[kelvo]

If it makes you feel any better, factory intervals for coolant change is every 10 years/260,000Km. So yours would still be on factory coolant providing there has not been a major coolant system failure. Penrite also do not make a coolant that meets the required WSS M97B44-D spec. Nulon do though WSS-M97B44-D - Nulon Products Australia (https://www.nulon.com.au/specifications/coolant/ford-/wss-m97b44-d) which is readily available at SCA. I actually replaced my coolant at 5 years along with the top coolant manifold which is prone to sudden failure.

[Tombie]

If it makes you feel any better, factory intervals for coolant change is every 10 years/260,000Km. So yours would still be on factory coolant providing there has not been a major coolant system failure. Penrite also do not make a coolant that meets the required WSS M97B44-D spec. Nulon do though WSS-M97B44-D - Nulon Products Australia (https://www.nulon.com.au/specifications/coolant/ford-/wss-m97b44-d) which is readily available at SCA. I actually replaced my coolant at 5 years along with the top coolant manifold which is prone to sudden failure.

For the record - It’s just Dexcool

And yes Penrite do - their blue coolant meets it.
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[Eric SDV6SE]

2 years on penrite red 500,000km coolant, no issues. At the time of my research, this met the spec. Full flush with demin. water beforehand.

I dont think 500mls matters, all youve done is upped the concentration by 5%. If its still original coolant, a system flush and new fluid is not a bad idea, esp. If youre thinking of changing out the coolant outlet.

[shanegtr]

Mixing coolant types can possibly cause issues. The majority of coolants are glycol based anyway, its just the additive pack that's different between the different types. Best bet if your unsure what's in there is to top up with distilled water.

[Dagilmo]

Mixing coolant types can possibly cause issues. The majority of coolants are glycol based anyway, its just the additive pack that's different between the different types. Best bet if your unsure what's in there is to top up with distilled water.

Thanks Shane. I've contacted Penrite and they recommend not mixing different types and to use their universal top up product if unsure of what's in there. Obviously, distilled water is a good option also.

Looks like I'm doing a flush in the next couple of days......

[shanegtr]

The only issue with topping up with distilled water is diluting the glycol content - which should be between 33-50%.

[D4thebiglap]

Tombie, do you run the blue Penrite coolant in your Disco.

[Tombie]

Tombie, do you run the blue Penrite coolant in your Disco.

Yes I do [emoji41]

[D4thebiglap]

Thank you. I'll give it a go. Cheers

[ScottLS]

Well now I'm confused. I assume the colour of the coolant means something re the additive package.

I have a 2014 D4 with limited information about its service history. The coolant may not have been changed -- or maybe it has. It is red.

The owners manual that came with the car specifies Castrol SF which is green and OAT and meets Ford WSS-M97B44-D.

A Disco owners manual I found online dated 2013 specifies Havoline XLC which is red and also meets WSS-M97B44-D.

Penrite specify their blue OAT coolant for my car and also meets WSS-M97B44-D.

My inclination would be to stick with a red coolant given the colour in it now... or do a full flush and switch to .. what?

[PerthDisco]

Nulon OAT long life 10 year premix does the job and is red.

[Eric SDV6SE]

I have a predisposition to Penrite products, if their coolant concentrate or premix meets the spec (regardless of colour),its what I would use. Most important is the flush with radiator flush, then demineralised water (can do 1 flush with tap water then demineralised, as long as the last flush is demineralised). The penrite red did meet the spec of my 2011D4, no issues with running that, temp gauge never ever went past half, towing or not, summer / winter.

Nulon is also good, have heard some of the Castrol truck coolants also work well

[shanegtr]

Well now I'm confused. I assume the colour of the coolant means something re the additive package.


Yes, but only to the specific manufacturer as there is no standard for coolant colours that all manufacturers use.