But I've got a snorkel...

[DieselLSE]

This happened walking distance from where I live in inner Melbourne. Insurance response will be interesting!
Melbourne floods weather: Uber driver stuck in Victorian floodwaters escapes onto bridge (9news.com.au) (https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-floods-weather-uber-driver-stuck-in-victorian-floodwaters-escapes-onto-bridge/9dccab8d-37a6-426f-8296-39aef3918a5e)

[ramblingboy42]

I was going to fit a snorkel to my Ranger.

I had a chat to my indy about it, who happens to be a Walkinshaw performance affiliate.

He asked me why and I gave the usual reasons....he suggested I would get no benefit over the standard intake , unless I wanted to take it swimming.

I don't know if Defenders use same intake , exactly same engine , but many/most Defender owners have a snorkel on their 2.2 puma engines.

[trout1105]

The MAIN reason that I fit a snorkle to a 4WD is to access the cleaner air at the top of the vehicle instead of sucking air into the engine from the dusty wheel arches.
Being able to do the odd water crossings without getting water into the intake is just an added bonus.

[scarry]

Almost all insurance companies have a get out clause which basically says no cover if the vehicle is driven into water.

It is usually hidden away in their disclosure statement.

[ramblingboy42]

what do you call an odd water crossing? 1200mm is only at bonnet opening on the Ranger, I would never contemplate that depth for any reason.

[Vern]

what do you call an odd water crossing? 1200mm is only at bonnet opening on the Ranger, I would never contemplate that depth for any reason.Whats the wading depth?
Not hard to fall in a hole in a river and very quickly get to that depth.

[trout1105]

what do you call an odd water crossing? 1200mm is only at bonnet opening on the Ranger, I would never contemplate that depth for any reason.

The depth of the water although an important factor is only one of many considerations I take into account before I even attempt any water crossing.
The rate of flow is probably the most important thing to assess then you have the amount of traction the bottom will allow, is it salt or fresh water, are there crocks in the water, is it tideal, do I REALY NEED to make the crossing.

If for ANY reason I think the crossing is risky I won't attempt it.

1200mm in a ranger and you would most likely just float away downstream.
I have done 1200mm or maybe a little bit deeper in my fully loaded 79 series on a couple of occasions and there was absolutely no danger of that puppy floating away.
I wouldnt even try those sort of depths in my D2a.

[ramblingboy42]

I don't know it's wading depth, is there an official wading depth? I'll look at the hand book.

found this quickly....
https://www.drive.com.au/news/2012-ford-ranger-takes-a-dip/

[Saitch]

If for ANY reason I think the crossing is risky I won't attempt it.

I have done 1200mm or maybe a little bit deeper in my fully loaded 79 series on a couple of occasions and there was absolutely no danger of that puppy floating away.
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This is 1200mm on my Toyota 'tilly. Either there's a depth perception problem here, or a contradiction in the first and second statements?
I wait to be corrected, of course.

176696

[scarry]

I wouldnt even try those sort of depths in my D2a.

I did bonnet height in my D2a numerous times with no real issues.It had a snorkle.

I always used a blind across the front and didn’t hit the water too hard.

The only issue we did have was the horns filled with water and blew a fuse which also disabled the Cruise control.

If we did get stuck at those depths we would have had issues,the first being a soaked gearbox ECU as it’s fitted in a brilliant place under the passenger seat.

We did get stuck in a creek near the old crossing of the Jardine one year,and water was just over the rear door sills,the rear of the vehicle was down quite a bit lower than the front. Luckily the gearbox ECU didn’t get wet,but we found hundreds of small fish flapping around in the second row of seats footwell,once we got out.

[V8Ian]

I did bonnet height in my D2a numerous times with no real issues.It had a snorkle.

I always used a blind across the front and didn’t hit the water too hard.

The only issue we did have was the horns filled with water and blew a fuse which also disabled the Cruise control.

If we did get stuck at those depths we would have had issues,the first being a soaked gearbox ECU as it’s fitted in a brilliant place under the passenger seat.

We did get stuck in a creek near the old crossing of the Jardine one year,and water was just over the rear door sills,the rear of the vehicle was down quite a bit lower than the front. Luckily the gearbox ECU didn’t get wet,but we found hundreds of small fish flapping around in the second row of seats footwell,once we got out.
I bet they were fiddly to fillet. [biggrin]

[PhilipA]

When I had my RRC I was camped at one of the falls on the GBR.

A bloke walked up to me and asked if I knew where he could get a new air cleaner element.

He had a D2 with no snorkel and in his hand was this lump of **** that was once an air cleaner element.
I said Perth.
I guess I am OCD, but if I didn't have a snorkel I would carry 2 spares.

Talking of water , I was in Litchfield and crossed a creek to an old station, and misread the depth marker as 500MM when it was 900MM.

I had the snorkel on the RRC and got through even though I got the headlights full of water.
Regards PhilipA
PS, the reason I put the snorkel on the RRC was originally that a mate from the Range Rover club had hit a big puddle at 80KMH and hydrauliced his motor as the OE air cleaner input was behind the LH headlight.

[trout1105]

This is 1200mm on my Toyota 'tilly. Either there's a depth perception problem here, or a contradiction in the first and second statements?
I wait to be corrected, of course.

176696


NO depth perception problem here Old Mate, Stand corrected you are[biggrin]

176699176700

Maybe if you put a decent set of tyres on "Tilly" and add a small lift it wouldnt look so low[bigwhistle][thumbsupbig]

[trout1105]

I did bonnet height in my D2a numerous times with no real issues.It had a snorkle.

I always used a blind across the front and didn’t hit the water too hard.

The only issue we did have was the horns filled with water and blew a fuse which also disabled the Cruise control.

If we did get stuck at those depths we would have had issues,the first being a soaked gearbox ECU as it’s fitted in a brilliant place under the passenger seat.

We did get stuck in a creek near the old crossing of the Jardine one year,and water was just over the rear door sills,the rear of the vehicle was down quite a bit lower than the front. Luckily the gearbox ECU didn’t get wet,but we found hundreds of small fish flapping around in the second row of seats footwell,once we got out.

I bet the carpet stunk for a while until the carpet, foam and fish slime/scales dried out[bigsad]

[V8Ian]

This is 1200mm on my Toyota 'tilly. Either there's a depth perception problem here, or a contradiction in the first and second statements?
I wait to be corrected, of course.

176696
Perhaps you need a Besser block too. [bigwhistle]

[Saitch]

NO depth perception problem here Old Mate, Stand corrected you are[biggrin]

176699176700

Maybe if you put a decent set of tyres on "Tilly" and add a small lift it wouldnt look so low[bigwhistle][thumbsupbig]

I've found that the Maxxis Bighorn 764s on my 'tilly are quite adequate for my use.

[trout1105]

Perhaps you need a Besser block too. [bigwhistle]

This old girl doesn't need a besser block to get clearance [biggrin]

176705

[Saitch]

This old girl doesn't need a besser block to get clearance [biggrin]

176705

"Old Girl"? Pffft! 'Tis but a spring chicken. [smilebigeye]

176706

[scarry]

I bet the carpet stunk for a while until the carpet, foam and fish slime/scales dried out[bigsad]

It actually wasn’t that bad,no where near as bad as a Falcon Panel van I had years ago that got filled with water and hail almost to dash level during a storm.
It took months for the smell to disappear from inside it,even leaving the doors and windows open every night.

I actually drove that thing out,the bloody water and hail mixture was absolutely freezing cold.[biggrin]

The storm did a good job on it,taillights smashed,quarter glasses smashed,and every panel peppered with dents,luckily it wasn’t mine,it was a company vehicle.They ran with no insurance,just third party,and reconned they were way ahead,dollar wise.

[trout1105]

"Old Girl"? Pffft! 'Tis but a spring chicken. [smilebigeye]

176706

Thats a nice looking fishing rig[thumbsupbig]

[scarry]

Thats a nice looking fishing rig[thumbsupbig]

Sure is,

I like the reels,not much beats a side cast in the surf.

Still use my fathers wooden one,I think it’s made out of Rosewood.

[Saitch]

Thats a nice looking fishing rig[thumbsupbig]

One minor issue, although not obvious in the photo, is that the tray is quite a bit higher than standard and every year, it seems to get higher. Very noticeable when loading the Engel and eskies.[biggrin]

[trout1105]

One minor issue, although not obvious in the photo, is that the tray is quite a bit higher than standard and every year, it seems to get higher. Very noticeable when loading the Engel and eskies.[biggrin]

I have 2x 40l fridges that live permanently in the canopy (1 fridge 1 freezer), The esky lives on the boat because If I had to load these up each time I would be too stuffed to go fishing after doing it[thumbsupbig]

[DeeJay]

As a young bloke I lived in East St Kilda & whenever we had a downpour, I used to dash down & cross the Elwood canal there in my LWB ex army 24 volt series 2. I overdid it one night when the water was over the bonnet & got into the oil bath air cleaner ( it had fully shielded dizzy & leads like an aircraft) & I think I got home on 1 & a half cylinders. I doubt that crossing gets any deeper nowadays.

[Arapiles]

This happened walking distance from where I live in inner Melbourne. Insurance response will be interesting!
Melbourne floods weather: Uber driver stuck in Victorian floodwaters escapes onto bridge (9news.com.au) (https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-floods-weather-uber-driver-stuck-in-victorian-floodwaters-escapes-onto-bridge/9dccab8d-37a6-426f-8296-39aef3918a5e)


It's surprising that there are any crossings of the Elwood canal that don't have bridges: it's not like it floods irregularly ...

[spudfan]

Slightly related. When I bought our first Land Rover in 1990, a 90 turbo diesel. The handbook stated that if you needed a new air filter (it was similar to the tdi type) and none was available you could clean the old one by standing it in a bucket of soapy water. I cannot remember if the water needed to be warm but I think it did. To dry you let it dry naturally or you could help it by placing it in an airing cupboard.
Anyway I tried it and it worked. When washed it was spotless and it dried out fine.
I mention this incase some one gets a similar turbo/tdi filter damp when crossing a river that it is possible to let it dry then carry as a spare if you changed it.
I do not know how long a self cleaned air filter would last but the integrity of the element looked fine through the holes in the cannister. I have not seen the above in any handbook since that 1990 one I had.