Caravan LPG warning SENSOR

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The manufacturer of our caravan stove has advised all SWIFT 500 series gas stoves to be turned off at the gas switch. While I dont want to blow us up,, I do need to keep using this stove.
Can anyone recomend a LPG sensor? Help with tech reccomendations on the sensor? We have had no (abnormal [emoji56]) smells, so far. Its about fractures in aluminium lines??
Two explosions in WA in the last two years...

[BradC]

LPG sensors have been mandatory on boats for years, so we've been through a few. Most use a heated semiconductor hydrocarbon detector, so they draw a bit of 12V to keep running. As LPG is heavier than air and pools, just pick a location its likely to fall and stay and plop one or more there. On the boats we had them hooked up to a solenoid on the bottle so any trip of the sensor immediately cut the gas supply whilst letting us know in no uncertain terms it was going off (a demented canary through a megaphone sort of thing).

Between the sensor and solenoid, it was nearly an amp continuous on the 12V.

As for recommendations, they were all much of a muchness. Being mandatory on boats, there's stacks around.

[V8Ian]

Just leave the door open, the gas will escape.
Sorry Pedro, I'll get me coat eh.:unsure:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

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[V8Ian]

Just look after Di, Pedro. We'd miss her. [bigwhistle]

[trout1105]

Is it difficult to change out the crappy ally lines?

[scarry]

You could cut a hole in the floor of the van,about 6" in diameter.
Should do the trick no worries.

It might save having to leave the door open.At least you could put some mesh over the hole to keep the snakes and spiders out,and then a door mat over it in the cold weather to stop the drafts.[wink11]

[350RRC]

Aluminium gas lines................... who'd have thought. [bighmmm][thumbsupbig]

[scarry]

Aluminium gas lines................... who'd have thought. [bighmmm][thumbsupbig]

We had them in refrigeration once,for a short while as well,some have to learn the hard way.

Blind Freddy could see they would be absolutely useless in our industry.

[350RRC]

LPG sensors have been mandatory on boats for years, so we've been through a few. Most use a heated semiconductor hydrocarbon detector, so they draw a bit of 12V to keep running. As LPG is heavier than air and pools, just pick a location its likely to fall and stay and plop one or more there. ...................

So the gas pools down low, sensors need 12v and need to be put low?

What could possibly go wrong with powered sensors detecting an inflammable gas in an enclosed environment I wonder?

DL

[PhilipA]

Gas is heavy. That is what the grill in the bottom of the door is for.
Regards PhilipA

[BradC]

So the gas pools down low, sensors need 12v and need to be put low?

What could possibly go wrong with powered sensors detecting an inflammable gas in an enclosed environment I wonder?

DL

If you looked at the sensor and how it was configured you'd quickly spot the safeguards in place. The one thing the sensor won't do is ignite the gas.

[trout1105]

Gas alarms have been fitted to bilges on boats for decades now and I cannot recall any of them causing a problem[thumbsupbig]

[Tombie]

I have a friend with a dead father… because the lpg stove exploded whilst he was in his van.

If it’s ****ed, replace it.. or use something else to cook for a while.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

How did they all survive?

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[Saitch]

So the gas pools down low, sensors need 12v and need to be put low?

What could possibly go wrong with powered sensors detecting an inflammable gas in an enclosed environment I wonder?

DL

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[Pedro_The_Swift]

Just a quick update..

WA have told the gas fitters union(?) NOT to touch the stoves AT ALL until the WA Dep of Energy gives the OK.. so we cant even swap out the entire stove, or exchange ally for copper lines "privately".

I have bought a PEEL MD220 sensor that CAN be installed, and hopefully will be this week in Port Headland.

MARINE AND CARAVAN DETECTORS - Peel Electronics (https://www.peelelectronics.com.au/marine-and-caravan-detectors/)

This model comes with TWO sensors and a mechanical LPG cutoff.

Sensor placement?
There is a fold down/open shoe cupboard under the stove that should be a great spot, the other side of the van has the lpg fridge and lpg (trauma?) heater. The heater install took many hours (in QLD ) and only done last Christmas and is directly below the fridge. Wont a "leaking fridge escape through the lower fridge side vent anyway?


It could be worse.. I could have waited 18months for the new van to be delivered only to be told at handover "Sorry but no"