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Michael2
12th September 2022, 09:50 PM
I spun a big end bearing the other week, and have rebuilt a 300Tdi engine with new STD crank and pistons. I had to use a couple of the old oil rings though after snapping them.

There was piston protrusion on this engine, which there wasn't on my previous, but I didn't measure it properly. I went for a 3 hole gasket and now that it's assembled it has a harsh noise on acceleration (haven't driven it yet, just revving it in the driveway). I suspect I might have had to use a 0-hole gasket.

Can someone confirm that this would be a symptom of using a thinner head gasket? Or should I look elsewhere?

Thanks in advance, Michael

johnp38
13th September 2022, 10:50 AM
on my Td5 the 3 hole is the thicker gasket, so just a quick google and it seems tdi are the same.

so 3 hole good choice with piston protrusion. with thinner gasket pistons may bump into head/valves so you don't want to go thinner unless you measured the piston protrusion and want every miniscule bit of compression gain.

I don't know jack about tdi but is the crank, cam and fuel pump all 'timed' to how they should be? maybe fuel not injecting at right point or valve train not in sync with crank?

double check the basics

loanrangie
13th September 2022, 10:51 AM
Pistons would come in contact with the valves, was it a new head or did you have yours skimmed ?

Michael2
13th September 2022, 02:45 PM
on my Td5 the 3 hole is the thicker gasket, so just a quick google and it seems tdi are the same.

so 3 hole good choice with piston protrusion. with thinner gasket pistons may bump into head/valves so you don't want to go thinner unless you measured the piston protrusion and want every miniscule bit of compression gain.

I don't know jack about tdi but is the crank, cam and fuel pump all 'timed' to how they should be? maybe fuel not injecting at right point or valve train not in sync with crank?

double check the basics

0-hole is the thickest head gasket for a 300Tdi Suited to 0.81-0.9mm protrusion. I took the head off and it was 0.8 witha feeler gauge, so I went for the thicker gasket.

The timing was done with the motor out of the car, so visualisation was good. I double checked the pin timing with a DTI and it was 1.55mm lift.

The noise still seemed to be there, but did quieten once the car warmed. I wonder how much is my imagination.

Michael2
13th September 2022, 02:47 PM
Pistons would come in contact with the valves, was it a new head or did you have yours skimmed ?

Turners head, 2 years old.

loanrangie
13th September 2022, 04:00 PM
Turners head, 2 years old.

so not machined at all ? you'll need the thickest gasket then.

350RRC
13th September 2022, 10:05 PM
so not machined at all ? you'll need the thickest gasket then.

Or two thin ones?

That'd be a legendary bodge. [bighmmm]

DL

scarry
14th September 2022, 08:54 AM
Or two thin ones?

That'd be a legendary bodge. [bighmmm]

DL

Done that a few times on large open drive refrigeration compressors,no issues[bigsmile1]