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jedwards
7th May 2023, 03:51 PM
Wiper blade description .
My original wiper arm is 240mm in length with a locking mechanics that I have no idea what it is called. Online they talk about Spoon, pin and some others, but can someone tell me what blade I need to order to suit this type of fitting?

Advice on fitting the 4X4 lever spring.

I tried to fit the spring that holds the yellow topped 4x4 rob selector up. Compressing this spring takes huge effort, around 40 kg of force at a guess. I get it close then it slips and shoots the strong off which takes some time to re-find. I've retrieved the spring about 10 times and lost a lot of skin, but just cannot seem to compress the spring enough to screw the yellow knob on.
There must be a special technique to doing this without injuring yourself.

Any advice or help, hugely appreciated.

regards
Jeff in Perth, Western Australia

Larry
7th May 2023, 04:39 PM
Can you prop up the shaft from underneath so it's at it's maximum height position before you put any downward force on it?

1950landy
7th May 2023, 09:09 PM
The wiper blade to suit your arm is like this one 185268the Lucas P/N is 727803 there is also a rubber plug fits into the round hole to stop the blade coming off the arm when the arm is lifted the Lucas P/N 727701.

As already stated, push the threaded rod up from under the vehicle, there i also a lock nut that goes on top of the spring & under the yellow knob, you need to be able to adjust the spring tension & lock the nut & knob together.

185269

cjc_td5
7th May 2023, 09:13 PM
Can you prop up the shaft from underneath so it's at it's maximum height position before you put any downward force on it?As Larry says, hold it from underneath to push up as far as possible. There is next to no spring compression when fully up.

Of course, if your floor is still one piece as an 86" floor is, getting access to the underneath whilst screwing on the knob can be a challenge! You might need a helper.

jedwards
8th May 2023, 04:19 PM
Hi Chris, your comment that " There is next to no spring compression when fully up" has me stumped.
As you can see from the photo, my spring is double the height of the rod, so even with the rod jammed to its highest point, my spring must be compressed by at least 80 to 90mm, so I must have the wrong length spring.
Can anyone tell em what the uncompressed spring length is on their 4x4 selector is



regards
Jeff

cjc_td5
8th May 2023, 11:00 PM
Hi Chris, your comment that " There is next to no spring compression when fully up" has me stumped.
As you can see from the photo, my spring is double the height of the rod, so even with the rod jammed to its highest point, my spring must be compressed by at least 80 to 90mm, so I must have the wrong length spring.
Can anyone tell em what the uncompressed spring length is on their 4x4 selector is



regards
JeffHi Jeff.
May be not fully uncompressed, but I do recall not having any issues putting the knob on once I'd reached under and fully raised the rod. Definitely much higher than the rod position in your photo, so much less spring compression required.
Chris.

jedwards
11th May 2023, 04:02 PM
So, I am still stumped by the 4 wheel drive selector shaft spring issue.
I have checked with 3 independent suppliers, and the spring I have is correct for part number 561221 and is 190mm tall. However, my selector shaft at full lift, protrudes 95mm above its base, meaning I have 95mm of spring that needs to be compressed before I can even consider screwing on the yellow top.

When I acquire the car, it did not have a spring fitting to the selector rod, and I simply selected low range to enable 4x4.

However I'd like to get the system working as designed, but either my spring is too long or my selector rod is too short.

Would someone be prepared to measure theirs for me? I could conceivably cut the spring down however I'd really like to known which of the two possibilities in correct and which is incorrect.

many thanks in advance
Jeff in Perth, Western Australia

cjc_td5
11th May 2023, 05:46 PM
I can measure mine when back home tomorrow.

TonyC
12th May 2023, 08:57 AM
Hi Jeff,
Is the car in Hi 4WD? IE is the rod for the yellow knob pushed down? If so you'll never get that spring on.

Without the spring there would be nothing to pop the rod back up.

I can't remember if the yellow knob pops up when you select low range or when you go back to hi range.

It's decades since I drove a series.

Tony

cjc_td5
12th May 2023, 09:54 AM
Yes Jeff, check what Tony says. The box may be stuck in 4wd? Pull up on the rod and move the H-L range back and forth several times to ensure that it is released up.
C

akelly
12th May 2023, 11:03 AM
just going off that pic your box is in 4WD. As others have said you'll need to go between L-H range to disengage it, but without the spring fitted you'll also need to pull up a bit on that rod to get it to pop up. Either that or some brain genius has cut the rod down, but that would seem unlikely.

jedwards
12th May 2023, 06:31 PM
That is a really excellent suggestion, Tony & Chris. Thanks, I'll give it a got tomorrow morning and will report back.

regards
Jeff

cjc_td5
13th May 2023, 09:46 AM
Hi Jeff.
My rod sticks approx 90mm above the floor when in 2wd.

If yours is lower, jack up a front wheel and see if it spins freely, to confirm its in 2wd. The 4wd mechanism is not a mechanical shift in and out of gear. It relies on a spring to disengage 4wd when the lever is shifted. If there is load on the gear cog it will not disengage out of 4wd. That is why the shift knob has a return spring on it.

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jedwards
13th May 2023, 12:53 PM
You were both Spot On.
Many thanks Tony and Chris.

As soon as i pull the rob upwards while shifting it from Low to High a few time, the rod come up is steps. That allows me to put the spring locknut and yellow knob in place. It took bit of lubrication to the mechanism, but after a few runs throughs , the knob would go down and hold and would pop up againput up as soon as I moved from High ratio to Low.
So m vehicle has been stuck in 4x4 mode since I bought it in 2017, and God only known for how long before that.
I do have free wheeling hubs, so no real excess wear.

Fabulous help from this terrific Group, once again.

regards and many, many thanks
Jeff in Perth, WA

jedwards
14th May 2023, 08:51 AM
Yes Jeff, check what Tony says. The box may be stuck in 4wd? Pull up on the rod and move the H-L range back and forth several times to ensure that it is released up.
C


Hi Tony & Chris,
You were exactly right. It was stuck down, and as a result, had been in 4x4 since I acquired the S1 in 2017 and God knows for how longer before that.

It needed a bit of lubrication as it was quite stiff at first, but after a few manipulations, it was going down and holding and popping up as I moved from High to Low Ratio.
Once I had it up, the spring and lack nut went on with only slight compression, and the yellow knob screwed on easily.

Its all working perfectly now, so thank you so much for the excellent advice.
regards
Jeff in Perth, WA

whitehillbilly64
14th May 2023, 06:23 PM
I came across 4 springs today whist looking for something else.
They all measured 90mm long.

whitehillbilly