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tonyf
24th September 2023, 10:47 AM
I am considering getting some Front Runner Side Mount jerry can holders for my space-challenged Defender 90. Has anyone used them or can make a recommendation?

DazzaTD5
24th September 2023, 10:55 AM
I am considering getting some Front Runner Side Mount jerry can holders for my space-challenged Defender 90. Has anyone used them or can make a recommendation?

they seem quite popular on a number of customers Defenders.
As with most Front Runner stuff, they quite readily rust.

While I'm not one to jump in with oh but thats not legal bluh bluh... i do ponder such a thing looking at them, considering antenna mounts and the likes on ex-army Land Rovers arent legal.

Tikka7mm08
24th September 2023, 04:49 PM
Love them, thinking of another. Quick Azz camping in Aussie shipped mine to NZ. Great to deal with.

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travelrover
26th September 2023, 05:26 PM
they seem quite popular on a number of customers Defenders.
As with most Front Runner stuff, they quite readily rust.

While I'm not one to jump in with oh but thats not legal bluh bluh... i do ponder such a thing looking at them, considering antenna mounts and the likes on ex-army Land Rovers arent legal.

I agree their stuff rusts, they don’t seem to undercoat any of it. The packaging they use is often really not suitable and bits fly around inside chipping the paint. I guess I have returned 90% of front runner metal gear because of chipped paint or other damage in transit.
Though I must admit the Wolf Pack pro storage box’s seem pretty good so far.

Arapiles
26th September 2023, 06:45 PM
While I'm not one to jump in with oh but thats not legal bluh bluh... i do ponder such a thing looking at them, considering antenna mounts and the likes on ex-army Land Rovers arent legal.

My view is that in Victoria anything mounted on the side of vehicle is illegal. And a large number of the canopies and roof-top tents I see are also illegal because they're sticking out so far from the body of the vehicle. Why don't the cops crack down on it? Because they couldn't care less, which is why Melbourne is being over-run by illegal e-bikes and e-scooters. Nothing will happen until someone is killed.

grey_ghost
26th September 2023, 06:55 PM
I do wonder how the new Defender is allowed the side ladder & side basket…

And the side cages on RFSV’s..

But that’s just me..

travelrover
27th September 2023, 08:43 PM
I do wonder how the new Defender is allowed the side ladder & side basket…

And the side cages on RFSV’s..

But that’s just me..

They would have to be ADR compliant I guess, so that would over rule state laws wouldn’t it?

Arapiles
28th September 2023, 12:13 AM
They would have to be ADR compliant I guess, so that would over rule state laws wouldn’t it?

ADRs are technical, but ADR 42.9 does prohibit external protrusions:


42.9. EXTERNAL OR INTERNAL PROTRUSIONS
42.9.1. No vehicle must be equipped with:
42.9.1.1. any object or fitting, not technically essential to such vehicle, which protrudes from any part of the vehicle so that it is likely to increase the risk of bodily injury to any person;
42.9.1.2. any object or fitting technically essential to such vehicle unless its design, construction and conditions and the manner in which it is affixed to the vehicle are such as to reduce to a minimum the risk of bodily injury to any person;
42.9.1.3. any object or fitting which, because it is pointed or has a sharp edge, is likely to increase the risk of bodily injury to any person; or
42.9.1.4. any bumper bar the end of which is not turned towards the body of the vehicle to a sufficient extent to avoid any risk of hooking or grazing.

My recollection is that the old Victorian road rules specifically said that you couldn't have anything hanging off the side of vehicle, but the national rules appear to be less prescriptive.

Tikka7mm08
28th September 2023, 04:35 AM
Having extra fuel my D90 60L tank is technically essential, I'm not sure it protrudes (much?) wider than the rock/tree sliders/wheel flares, and the round edges of the jerrycan are safer than sharp edges. But I will remove the jerrycan when I go for a warrant of fitness (NZ) next month :)

Tombie
28th September 2023, 03:41 PM
I do wonder how the new Defender is allowed the side ladder & side basket…

And the side cages on RFSV’s..

But that’s just me..

Inside the vehicle footprint.

Look at the mirrors - widest point.

Like any DC Ute you see with tray/canopy protruding beyond the door line.

DazzaTD5
28th September 2023, 04:33 PM
I have always liked the idea, it does make a Defender more Camel Trophy like or expedition cool.

But my only two negative thoughts is, I dont know they would be particularly useful when driving through scrub or bush tracks, many a time I have clobbered my antenna mount on my Perentie. I'd be worried I would rip them off when off road.

The other thing, when parked in the local carpark, some dickhead walks past and walks into it and suddenly its my fault.

Tikka7mm08
29th September 2023, 05:21 AM
LOL there's only one way to avoid the carpark dickhead and that is by not parking in it! I'm surprised how solid they are, and with jerrycan off not too bad. I've ordered a second red draper can from moto fc and will look to get a second mount.

POD
29th September 2023, 08:47 AM
I have always liked the idea, it does make a Defender more Camel Trophy like or expedition cool.

But my only two negative thoughts is, I dont know they would be particularly useful when driving through scrub or bush tracks, many a time I have clobbered my antenna mount on my Perentie. I'd be worried I would rip them off when off road.

The other thing, when parked in the local carpark, some dickhead walks past and walks into it and suddenly its my fault.


It's not unreasonable that vehicles are required not to have projections that can cause harm, some might say their kid cut his head open on something that some dickhead had sticking out the side of their car.
Many years ago, the young brother of a mate of mine sustained a life-changing head injury from the open quarter-vent window of a passing HQ Holden. Doesn't take much protrusion. Personally I think those side-mount jerry can holders are an unreasonable risk to others, except in the bush- where they're likely to be a pain in the neck.
But if glaziers can have vans with racks of glass hanging off the side, I guess perhaps these things are legal too.

V8Ian
29th September 2023, 09:02 AM
It's not unreasonable that vehicles are required not to have projections that can cause harm, some might say their kid cut his head open on something that some dickhead had sticking out the side of their car.
Many years ago, the young brother of a mate of mine sustained a life-changing head injury from the open quarter-vent window of a passing HQ Holden. Doesn't take much protrusion. Personally I think those side-mount jerry can holders are an unreasonable risk to others, except in the bush- where they're likely to be a pain in the neck.
But if glaziers can have vans with racks of glass hanging off the side, I guess perhaps these things are legal too.
The pedant in me requires that I point out, HQs had no quarter vents. [wink11]

I'm always amazed at the lack of consideration and disregard of safety, by concreters who drive around with reo hanging a foot or more off the sides of their utes!

POD
29th September 2023, 12:34 PM
The pedant in me requires that I point out, HQs had no quarter vents. [wink11]

Ha! You got me there, quite right! It was the mate's dad who had the HQ, the bloke who hit his little brother was driving an HT iirc. About 12 years old, he was standing on the kerb looking at a dead cat in the gutter. He was never quite right afterwards, showed the traits of a subtle ABI.

Tikka7mm08
29th September 2023, 08:18 PM
Just had another look at my one. With the can on is about in line with my wing mirror. With just the mount and no can sits narrower that the wheel flares and tree sliders.

Tikka7mm08
29th September 2023, 08:28 PM
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scarry
29th September 2023, 09:09 PM
The pedant in me requires that I point out, HQs had no quarter vents. [wink11]

I'm always amazed at the lack of consideration and disregard of safety, by concreters who drive around with reo hanging a foot or more off the sides of their utes!

Yes no quarter vents in the HQ,but it did have nice large fresh air intake vents that blew air over the drivers feet.Maybe another vent for the front seated passengers feet as well,but i can't remember.A pity vehicles these days dont have that sort of vehilation.

At least these days most concreters have moved on from Holden one Tonners and utes, to light trucks.[smilebigeye]

Back to the OP,if the jerry can protrudes past the wheel arch flares,i doubt it would be legal around here.
I have seen Coppers more than once put a straight edge on a tyre,and if it protrudes past the wheel arch flare,you are done.

And by the way i love the big tank in the ride we have now,the jerry cans,whch are generally a PITA,are sitting around collecting dust.

POD
29th September 2023, 10:26 PM
The jerry cans are definitely a cool look but I doubt they would pass muster here. There seems to be some subjectivity in the design rules regarding what might pose a risk to other road users- unlike the tyre rule which is that they must not protrude past the width of the body or something to that effect, wheel arch flares seem to be accepted as part of the body.

Arapiles
29th September 2023, 11:15 PM
But if glaziers can have vans with racks of glass hanging off the side, I guess perhaps these things are legal too.

I understand that they used to get exemptions to do it. Now, not sure what's required.