Possible new Disco Sport soon.

[ATH]

I recently sold our 7 year old D4 which we'd had from new recently and bought a Prado as we'd had one years ago and it wasn't a bad vehicle at all. After 5 Landies including 3 Deafeners and 2 Discos I thought maybe a change would be good especially seeing the prices for new Defenders etc. Bloody horrendous and the vehicles didn't really come up to what I want and I have read some not nice stories re the engines, just like the D4s.
However, due to various reasons we won't be doing much remote travelling in the future which we've done mostly on our own without problems and with a club we're no longer members of, so I reckon we can buy another Landie and thought about a Disco Sport.
Reason for getting rid of a new Prado? I don't like it, I hate the cruise control, I hate the bloody adaptive slowing down when I don't tell it to by using brakes, I hate bloody Tojos and their owners and their superior attitudes. :)
Elder bro has Disco Sport in Switzerland and he reckons it's very good but I still read negative stuff on here about them and their engines.
So what really is the best model to buy?
Any useful comments appreciated.
AlanH.

[scarry]

Reason for getting rid of a new Prado? I don't like it, I hate the cruise control, I hate the bloody adaptive slowing down when I don't tell it to by using brakes, I hate bloody Tojos and their owners and their superior attitudes. :)

AlanH.

I said in a thread of yours a while back you can't compare a Prado to a D4,there is just NO comparison[bigrolf]
You have been used to a vehicle that drives very well.

Anyway,can't you turn the adaptive CC off,and just use normal CC?
The CC on our LC200 works so much better than on our previous D4.
But it is not Adaptive.
FWIW,i followed a late model Audi back from Arrawarra at night last week,110Km/hr virtually all the way,and down every hill the brake lights were on,so seems that is what they do using CC.
The 200 changes down a gear,or two,it works brilliantly,where the D4 just ran away.

Anyway,horses for courses,good luck with the sport,but you are right,there are lots of horror stories around,but it could be specific models or years that had issues.
LR have a class action against them about timing chains in some models.

What about a Mitsy Sport,one of my Brothers has had a couple over the years,no issues,great car?

[Tins]

Knew it would end in tears...

[scarry]

Knew it would end in tears...

Out of the frying pan,into the fire,and now thinking of getting back into the frying pan....[bigrolf]

[Tins]

Out of the frying pan,into the fire,and now thinking of getting back into the frying pan....[bigrolf]

Only with less sizzle..

[ATH]

and down every hill the brake lights were on,so seems that is what they do using CC

My half German/half English niece has a new top of the range BMW and it keeps doing that on autobahns and Britian's motorways. Very confusing to following drivers because unlike here they're looking way ahead, not at the bumper of the car just in front. :)
AlanH.

PS. Anyway, I may stick with the Prado as it's not a bad motor, just bloody annoys me sometimes compared to the D4. :)

PPS. And at least the so called mechanics up north will look at them even if they can't actually fix them.... and you can get replacement engines.

[scarry]

My half German/half English niece has a new top of the range BMW and it keeps doing that on autobahns and Britian's motorways. Very confusing to following drivers because unlike here they're looking way ahead, not at the bumper of the car just in front. :)
AlanH.

PS. Anyway, I may stick with the Prado as it's not a bad motor, just bloody annoys me sometimes compared to the D4. :)

PPS. And at least the so called mechanics up north will look at them even if they can't actually fix them.... and you can get replacement engines.

Yes gives me the ****s when following another vehicle and the brake lights are on,then off,then on again.I generally get past them if I can.

Anyway,don’t worry about another engine for the Prado as you will never need one….

As I said before the way the LC works going down a gear or two automatically in CC,when going down a hill is brilliant,I am surprised the Prado does not do the same.

FWIW,some semi trailers also have the brakes on occasionally going down hills on the main HWY,so maybe that is CC doing it as well.

[Tins]

FWIW,some semi trailers also have the brakes on occasionally going down hills on the main HWY,so maybe that is CC doing it as well.

It'll be the retarder probably. The newer Euro trucks will couple that to the CC as well. Scania I drove would do it if you commanded it, but later ones can maintain a speed up and down. Don't see why it needs to activate the brake lights though. Some buses will activate it as soon as you lift of the accelerator, which sucks.

[ATH]

'As I said before the way the LC works going down a gear or two automatically in CC, when going down a hill is brilliant, I am surprised the Prado does not do the same.'
It's very inaccurate and speeds up to several kays over the speed set quite often after having slowed for some reason. I'll get Tojo to check it out as cops here are only concerned with speed and even the smallest over the top will get you a ticket.
Apparently and according to all the guff from so called 'road safety experts', Speed Kills but sheer bloody stupidity and incompetence doesn't. :O
AlanH.

[scarry]

as cops here are only concerned with speed and even the smallest over the top will get you a ticket.
Apparently and according to all the guff from so called 'road safety experts', Speed Kills.
AlanH.

That is to justify putting speed cameras here there and everywhere,it is just revenue collecting nothing else.

There are a couple of fixed speed cameras on the M1 here,they have been there for decades.Seems they are not earning their keep as everyone except the occasional tourist knows where they are.
So now they are going to spend millions putting in point to point speed cameras,like they have in other areas,for ,as they said “road safety”.They meant to say revenue collection[bigrolf]

[Discodicky]

I said in a thread of yours a while back you can't compare a Prado to a D4,there is just NO comparison[bigrolf]
You have been used to a vehicle that drives very well.

Anyway,can't you turn the adaptive CC off,and just use normal CC?
The CC on our LC200 works so much better than on our previous D4.
But it is not Adaptive.
FWIW,i followed a late model Audi back from Arrawarra at night last week,110Km/hr virtually all the way,and down every hill the brake lights were on,so seems that is what they do using CC.
The 200 changes down a gear,or two,it works brilliantly,where the D4 just ran away.

Anyway,horses for courses,good luck with the sport,but you are right,there are lots of horror stories around,but it could be specific models or years that had issues.
LR have a class action against them about timing chains in some models.

What about a Mitsy Sport,one of my Brothers has had a couple over the years,no issues,great car?

My 8 speed Disco doesn't run away and changes down like your 'cruiser.
Maybe that was a function/design "problem" with the 6 speed ZF?

[scarry]

My 8 speed Disco doesn't run away and changes down like your 'cruiser.
Maybe that was a function/design "problem" with the 6 speed ZF?

Great improvement over the 6 speed.
Did they sort the useless fuel burn read out to be better than 20 to 30% inaccurate,and the high beam assist that blinded oncoming drivers particularly in trucks before it activated?

Tins,I doubt the retarder would bring on the brake lights,but I suppose one never knows.

[Tins]

Tins,I doubt the retarder would bring on the brake lights,but I suppose one never knows.

I know it does on Scania buses, for certain. It didn’t on the R730 I drove but it would be 10 years old now. There’s no reason why it wouldn’t on the newer ones, it’s all done in the computers. Ovlovs would be similar. A compliant dealer could probably program it out.

[d2dave]

FWIW,some semi trailers also have the brakes on occasionally going down hills on the main HWY,so maybe that is CC doing it as well.

Probably because the driver has put his foot on the brake. Trucks are governed to 100. On a down hill in a 62 ton Bdouble you can easily hit 110 in the blink of an eye.

And if Mr Plod is hanging around, a nice fine might result.

[ignatz]

Ok, back to the original or near original question.

Any years, models etc. of Disco Sports that are more unreliable than others?

I read somewhere a new model came out in 2019, not sure which month?? Is this one no different from the earlier models??

Will be new to RR/LR when I purchase. Intend to use it on & off road. I just love the look of them & what they can do off road.

Totally got the heebie geebies after buying an Audi A3, $8K for the box, $7K for timing chain failure, $2K for computer that runs the interior lights.

Looking at 132kw/140kw? Diesel, hopefully serviced less K's/Time that required & country miles (Read about they need 30+km per trip or gets the DPF?? backflow into the sump). Replace timing chain by 100Km. What else????

Help, please?????

Cheers
ignatz

[Andych]

2019 (MY20) model is the Facelift model and has the upgraded chains etc. Mine is the D240HSE (177kw Twin Turbo Mild Hybrid). I love it..I have only had it about 4 weeks but have does 3000km in that time. Averaging 6.6 L/100km (mostly freeway speed but on 110kph via GPS).
My only issue is the JLR Tow package price is Extortion... $4300 supplied and installed but still needs the extra panel to be painted so probably $5K all up.
I have a Harman Reece coming for $1800 and I will fit is myself.. the electrics to operate as per JLR original are another $600 plus coding. Again I will do that myself.
Only other thing is the Piano Black dash areas and the infotainment screen suffer from finger marks... nothing a cloth wont fix though :)

[ignatz]

Hi Andych,

I will probably purchase a 2017-Early2019 for now. If it is relatively trouble free I will consider the mild hybrid as a future purchase, so will to keep in contact for future reference, if you don't mind & will do some research to know what I'm talking about.

What is the milage you purchased & have you done a electric run out to test the current life/milage of the battery? Is it quite similar to the distance claimed when new by LR? Don't know if a vehicle inspection can fairly accurately test the battery life on a 2nd hand purchase? I would probably have to purchase older than 5yrs & would be concerned about battery life.

The HR for $1,800, do you still need the extra panel painted? I don't get it, do you have to remove a section of the bumper, cut it out & respray to fit HR?

With about $2.6K-$5K for a tow bar I need to allow that cost in the purchase &/or do a HR install myself.

Is the coding doable if one has their own coder?


Cheers

Paul

[DiscoJeffster]

Hi Andych,

I will probably purchase a 2017-Early2019 for now. If it is relatively trouble free I will consider the mild hybrid as a future purchase, so will to keep in contact for future reference, if you don't mind & will do some research to know what I'm talking about.

What is the milage you purchased & have you done a electric run out to test the current life/milage of the battery? Is it quite similar to the distance claimed when new by LR? Don't know if a vehicle inspection can fairly accurately test the battery life on a 2nd hand purchase? I would probably have to purchase older than 5yrs & would be concerned about battery life.

The HR for $1,800, do you still need the extra panel painted? I don't get it, do you have to remove a section of the bumper, cut it out & respray to fit HR?

With about $2.6K-$5K for a tow bar I need to allow that cost in the purchase &/or do a HR install myself.

Is the coding doable if one has their own coder?


Cheers

Paul

Do not buy 2017-2019. TBH I’m not sure I’d buy anything after 2016. 2016 had the old but reliable Freelander 2 engine. The ones that followed had the inigiboom engines. Horrendously unreliable. We have the 2016 in our stable and it’s rock solid. Maybe something late model might have resolved the issue - unsure. This came from my Indy who’s changed so many of the engines he can’t stand them

[Andych]

Hi Andych,

I will probably purchase a 2017-Early2019 for now. If it is relatively trouble free I will consider the mild hybrid as a future purchase, so will to keep in contact for future reference, if you don't mind & will do some research to know what I'm talking about.

What is the milage you purchased & have you done a electric run out to test the current life/milage of the battery? Is it quite similar to the distance claimed when new by LR? Don't know if a vehicle inspection can fairly accurately test the battery life on a 2nd hand purchase? I would probably have to purchase older than 5yrs & would be concerned about battery life.

The HR for $1,800, do you still need the extra panel painted? I don't get it, do you have to remove a section of the bumper, cut it out & respray to fit HR?

With about $2.6K-$5K for a tow bar I need to allow that cost in the purchase &/or do a HR install myself.

Is the coding doable if one has their own coder?


Cheers

Paul

I bought mine with 46,000 km on the clock and had all te relevant LR Service records. Mine will be serived for Oil and filters every 10K and then the LR recommended services at the required intervals... Yes, there are some horror stories out there but plenty of positive ones as well.. with any vehicle you can have issues. Plenty will depend on how they are treated and driven.
Mine is a Mild Hybrid... in that when slowing down the engine will shut down (in auto stop start mode) under a certain kph and run on the battery and electric motor till you stop. I believe the electric motor assists when taking off as well but at no stage will it drive from a standing start on the electic motor alone. That is the Plug in Hybrid...
The HR tow bar doesnt need the extra panel but does require a small cut out in the rear beaver panel... clearance for the square receiver. They give accurate measurements in the instructions and if you are careful there is no need for painting.

I beleive coding will be relatively simple. I have purchased the Towing module (Land Rover part) 2nd hand from the UK and the relevant wiring harnesses form LR Direct. All will arrive here next week so I just need to get a clear weekend to fit it all up. I will take pics where I can.
Haymen Reese Dealer quoted me $2800 installed with non factory electrics.. this means you need to turn off the rear parking sensors manually from the dash...I wanted it to be as per factory.. so I am doing that pert myself.