Looking for the best way to lift a D4

[Tim..]

gday , new to the landrover scene just got a D4 and i am wondering what is the best way to do a lift with this air suspension, ive never dealt with it before ive read there is lift rods , xlifter etc just wondering what is the best course of action
Thanks very much

[Eric SDV6SE]

Welcome to LR ownership.

Have a search on here, this has been covered before. The X-LIFTER and LLAMS are the best two options, allowing a few more ride height options.

With EAS you don't need a permanent lift, this affects centre of mass and your lower control arms and other suspension bits.

Servicing the air compressor and valve blocks is recommended, again, have a search on here for the detail.

[Tim..]

ah ok cheers, thats what i was wondering if there was a permanent lift so i can put bigger tyres on

[loanrangie]

ah ok cheers, thats what i was wondering if there was a permanent lift so i can put bigger tyres on

Gap tool can also do it.

[Tim..]

cheers mate

[SimmAus]

Depends on what you are trying to achieve / where you are driving.
The D4 has great flexibility in ride height built in.
Adding Llams or using a GAP tool will give you better control…but again, what are you thinking / what driving are you thinking about?

[Tombie]

ah ok cheers, thats what i was wondering if there was a permanent lift so i can put bigger tyres on

Welcome

Whats your intended use for the vehicle? 265-60-18 is a perfect tyre size for all-round
265-65-18 is a nice upgrade and doesnt need a permenant lift.. Im running this until 1pm today and then returning back to 265-60-18 as its just a much nicer all-round experience..

I have NOT found any benefit from the 265-65 over the 265-60 except a loss of pick up and slightly higher fuel burn - the 265-60 will do all the offroading with ease - and my vehicle spends a LOT of its time doing that [biggrin]

Permenant lift will increase wear rates on CVs, dents performance and fuel economy, adds some handling dynamic changes when towing.. Hence my return to the next size down this afternoon

[Tim..]

Welcome

Whats your intended use for the vehicle? 265-60-18 is a perfect tyre size for all-round
265-65-18 is a nice upgrade and doesnt need a permenant lift.. Im running this until 1pm today and then returning back to 265-60-18 as its just a much nicer all-round experience..

I have NOT found any benefit from the 265-65 over the 265-60 except a loss of pick up and slightly higher fuel burn - the 265-60 will do all the offroading with ease - and my vehicle spends a LOT of its time doing that [biggrin]

Permenant lift will increase wear rates on CVs, dents performance and fuel economy, adds some handling dynamic changes when towing.. Hence my return to the next size down this afternoon

righto mate , yeah im just after as much rubber as possible to deflate for the sand and not being restricted to 40km an hour witht he offroad mode

[PerthDisco]

righto mate , yeah im just after as much rubber as possible to deflate for the sand and not being restricted to 40km an hour witht he offroad mode

Rods are available as well to trick the system to stay up and work well and are simple and cheap and removable.

With tyres let down to 16-18 and DSC off I’ve not found a sand challenge it does not eat up. If you don’t learn the DSC off trick you’ll be bogged in the second car length of sand.

I’ve got rods but today was the first day I used the height adjustment feature on the Gap tool which was amazing.

I set the new ‘normal’ height and had this salt water creek to cross so raising to off-road height with the new lift setting gave me extra extension lift to get minimum wetting!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240717/89a930d98bc9d13a237518605e093365.jpg

[shanegtr]

Choose tyres that clear the guards when the suspension is fully deflated or make the clearancing required to fit what ever size bigger tyres you plan to run. If you don't do either of those in the event of a fault that causes the suspension to drop its not going to be pretty if your travelling at speed

[Tim..]

Choose tyres that clear the guards when the suspension is fully deflated or make the clearancing required to fit what ever size bigger tyres you plan to run. If you don't do either of those in the event of a fault that causes the suspension to drop its not going to be pretty if your travelling at speed

Yeah good call mate cheers

[Tim..]

Rods are available as well to trick the system to stay up and work well and are simple and cheap and removable.

With tyres let down to 16-18 and DSC off I’ve not found a sand challenge it does not eat up. If you don’t learn the DSC off trick you’ll be bogged in the second car length of sand.

I’ve got rods but today was the first day I used the height adjustment feature on the Gap tool which was amazing.

I set the new ‘normal’ height and had this salt water creek to cross so raising to off-road height with the new lift setting gave me extra extension lift to get minimum wetting!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240717/89a930d98bc9d13a237518605e093365.jpg

Yeah ive had it in the sand and was impressed as well only annoying thing was on easy sand and having the 40km hour limit , cheers mate

[DiscoJeffster]

Yeah ive had it in the sand and was impressed as well only annoying thing was on easy sand and having the 40km hour limit , cheers mate

Get a scan tool like the GAP and then you can just raise it to what height you want when off road and you won’t have to worry about the 40kph lowering issue. That’s what I do when I go away off road. Once I’m back reset it to standard.

Much more expensive option than rods, but you’ll need a decent code reader anyway so it’s a good solution

[Tim..]

Get a scan tool like the GAP and then you can just raise it to what height you want when off road and you won’t have to worry about the 40kph lowering issue. That’s what I do when I go away off road. Once I’m back reset it to standard.

Much more expensive option than rods, but you’ll need a decent code reader anyway so it’s a good solution

yeah that sounds like the way to go cheers mate

[eckolsim]

Like Tombie I am running 265-65-18. Happy with this setup. Only minimal rub at full lock.

If you can run off road at normal height I think that is the best outcome.
I have the Gap tool and love it but don’t run different heights off road. As you can lift in extreme situations that is probably the best scenario. Running at normal height is better for the vehicle from a wear and geometry perspective.

If the vehicle was non airbag then a lift would be a good option.

[BradC]

Running at normal height is better for the vehicle from a wear and geometry perspective.


Doing *dumb **** at speed in offroad height is a recipe for CV issues. It turns out you don't have to get a Hilux with 10 leaf springs, oversized muddies and a fart can to get superlative offroad performance.