Defender Puma how many KM's ?

[MatyO]

Ahoy, puma owners, I have just purchased a 2010 puma 110, now I am wondering what km's other owners are currently at before requiring an engine swap themselves. Previous owner has serviced every 10,000kms and put a fair bit of TLC into it so it seems to be running smoothly.

Please let me know what km's you are currently at or what km's you got to before engine swapping.

I'm currently at 168,000

[travelrover]

We have a 2012 2.2 with 160k on the clock, gets oil and filter changes every 5k. No engine issues yet, plenty of other things though!

[cuppabillytea]

2013 2.2 190K ditto travelrover.

[muddy]

2013 260k as above

[MLD]

MY2010 - +/-180k kms. On second engine (sticky injectors cracked 2 pistons). On second gearbox and about to rebuild it again for a failed 6th gear bearing. My 130 is heavy, i have modified it extensively and i'm hard on my toys, so things just break or wear out prematurely.

FWIW the Puma engine gets a bad wrap. It was used in transit vans and other commercial vehicles by Ford and Peugeot for a decade. Do a search of second hand transit vans for sale not just in Australia but in Europe for a wider sample. There are some high kms examples. It wasn't long ago that we considered 500,000 kms a middle aged engine. Now we get all antsy about a commercial engine passing 200,000 kms. My anecdotal research, most Puma engines go bad from what is bolted to it not what is inside it. Bad injectors are an engine killer. At your kms, if the service history does not include injector replacement, i'd make that priority No 1. 150k kms is about the marker for an injector to become problematic. I have 3 defenders ranging from 1994 to 2010. As such, not one hair on my head and not 2 pennies to rub together.

[Robmacca]

My MY10 Defender has recently clicked over 232600kms... I've just recently replaced the 4 injectors as I was experiencing some oil usage & more than normal Blowby which lead me to finding a leaking injector copper seal. The blowby has been fixed but oil usage is yet to be proven...
It been a great vehicle and has done some hard cross-country exploring trips and look forward to many more ;)

[rgty_kmj]

May 2012 2.2 127,000 km on the clock. Injectors replaced at 115,000 km after an injector test showed that all injectors failed an injector test.

Kerry.

[travelrover]

May 2012 2.2 127,000 km on the clock. Injectors replaced at 115,000 km after an injector test showed that all injectors failed an injector test.

Kerry.

Hi Kerry

What was it that made you get them tested in the first place? We have the same, 2012 2.2 (90) with 160k. Injector failure is always in the back of my mind.
Last time I scanned it there was nothing to suggest any issue.

Cheers Simon

[rgty_kmj]

Hi Simon,

Take a look at this thread. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/228802-2-2-puma-130-engine-failure-14.html#post3204624
It appears that good advice for the 2.2 puma is to change injectors every 100,000 km.
Lots of horror stories out there where injector failure = buggered engine.

Kerry

[Landy_Lover]

2013 2.2, 208,000kms. No engine replacement yet. Have done a turbo though.

[DieselDan]

2014 2.2 Puma at 141,000km.
Have no desire to need an engine change!
Replaced the injectors at 135,000km.

[Lagerfan]

2013 2.2 Puma with 115k. New injectors in the post, plan to do them this weekend. Seems like good insurance v a new motor

[cuppabillytea]

2013 2.2 Puma with 115k. New injectors in the post, plan to do them this weekend. Seems like good insurance v a new motor
Wise move. Mine have been done at 180 K because they failed. Luckily there was no harm done to the engine as a result.
I would recommend, that before starting your engine each day; turn on the ignition and listen to the lift pump in the tank. It takes a few seconds to pressurise the line. If you can't hear it and you don't have defective hearing or added sound insulation, then have it checked out. You could save yourself a lot of money.

[NT5224]

My 2013 Puma 130 is at 80,000km. No problems, touch wood.

My previous 2012 Puma 110 cooked its engine at 130,000km, and had a brand new engine dropped in.

Good to see some of these Pumas getting up to 200,000 clicks….

Alan

[DazzaTD5]

2 regulars in today, 280K, 360K... both have serviced since new.
@ them km's its everything else that has been done [tonguewink]

I realise in euro-land and the U.K they all rabbit on about how rubbish the 2.4/2.2 engines are but I simply dont see it... Ohh thats right the ones that say that are in the business of bmw, merc etc etc engine conversions, how stupid of me not to see that

[spudfan]

The person who looks after my Defenders used to work for a Ford main dealer. He regards these engines very highly. I like the 2.4. Can't comment on the 2.2 as I do not have one.