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97discotdi
25th June 2007, 06:48 PM
I have just picked up a hp rx5700, it has tom tom 6 loaded,and I would like to move the 250k topo maps and the hema maps from my laptop to the pda. Does any of my knowledgable collegues know the best way to do it. I apparently have to buy ozi ce and that is all I know. After many years of the hard way, I now ask first. Cheers guys:eek:
amtravic1
25th June 2007, 06:57 PM
I have oziexplorer ce running on a Toshiba pda. You can use the trial version to play with and see if you are happy with it. It works ok but shuts down after an hour (or maybe 15 minutes, cant remember) You will need to copy the maps onto a compact flash card or SD card.
Personaly I prefer paper maps but sometimes it is good to be able to see exactly where you are on the map by checking the pda.
Ian
Blknight.aus
25th June 2007, 07:07 PM
Ozi CE is the way to go....
but you will need the pc version of ozi to setup the maps on, Fortunately you dont need the registed versoin, just Ozi to make up the .map files and the file converter if your maps arent in a native ozi standard (like .ecw)
Bushie
25th June 2007, 09:11 PM
Don't know what processor the HP has but to use .ecw files the pda needs an ARM processor.
Martyn
97discotdi
26th June 2007, 09:10 AM
The Auslig topos are ecw files I think, so how do you compress them to run on the pda, or will they run in standard form.
97discotdi
26th June 2007, 09:12 AM
The other thing is the topos are in mosaic format will this be a problem?
Cheers Guys
loanrangie
26th June 2007, 12:46 PM
The other thing is the topos are in mosaic format will this be a problem?
Cheers Guys
go to the gpsautralia.net forum and check out the maps section, i got the whole of vic/nsw on dvd that i compressed and fit onto a 2 gig sd card for my pda, they were indexed and ready to rock. I used IMG2ozf that i got from the Ozi webiste to convert and compress the maps for pda use and just right clicked and sent to my sd card in a card reader.
97discotdi
26th June 2007, 03:15 PM
Thanks Guys, I will give it a go
Michael2
26th June 2007, 07:28 PM
I experimented with Ozi-CE on a PDA. I found it easy to use, but found the following limitations :
:mad:1. The PDA would reset if not used for a couple of weeks and then Ozi would have to be reloaded.
:mad:2. I was able to see where exactly I was on a track, but if I wanted to know where that track went to, or intersected with others, by the time I zoomed out enough to view the wider field, everything was so tiny I couldn't make out tracks. It should really be used in conjunction with a paper map.
:mad:3. CE versions of maps take up a lot more memory than PC versions.
:DBecause of these limitations, I've gone to a small laptop/tablet, which has performed really well in the bush.
matbor
26th June 2007, 08:09 PM
Damned annoying that little trait. If you load the program into the part of the memory that DOESN"T get lost when the battery runs flat, then it won't operate.
We have this problem all the time. The PDA's are designed to be in use all the time, but we only use ours for trips away. Seems a waste of electrickery to have it plugged in all the time but thats the only way to avoid the problem
You can get another program that you can backup everything to another SD card, so when you pull the PDA out of the cupboard charge it up, put the SD card in restore everything, and then put in your maps card and away you go.
loanrangie
26th June 2007, 08:17 PM
Exactly whay mine stays on the charge in the car and soon will mount a usb header to power it off the battery instead of via a usb cigi adapter, one way to aleviate this is to put a copy of Ozi on your sd/cf card so its easy to relaod if needed. A bigger screen is ideal but the mounting becomes an issue, carputer is the next step.
amtravic1
26th June 2007, 08:51 PM
You can back up your pda through actisync onto you desktop or laptop and there is also a backup program that backs up to a sd or cf card installed in the pda. I use both of these options at times. no need to keep the pda on the charger all the time. About all I need to do is reset the date and time.
Ian
97discotdi
26th June 2007, 10:13 PM
I experimented with Ozi-CE on a PDA. I found it easy to use, but found the following limitations :
:mad:1. The PDA would reset if not used for a couple of weeks and then Ozi would have to be reloaded.
:mad:2. I was able to see where exactly I was on a track, but if I wanted to know where that track went to, or intersected with others, by the time I zoomed out enough to view the wider field, everything was so tiny I couldn't make out tracks. It should really be used in conjunction with a paper map.
:mad:3. CE versions of maps take up a lot more memory than PC versions.
:DBecause of these limitations, I've gone to a small laptop/tablet, which has performed really well in the bush.
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Well that is bloody brilliant, I have gone the laptop down to small screen and then I thought, why not go to a pda jees I hope this doesn't turn to s#!T. The pda is not cheap:angel:
Michael2
27th June 2007, 08:56 AM
If it makes you feel better, the PDA was okay for street level navigation, where road intersections are close, but in the bush, where the intersections are further apart, it's impossible to see the wider picture.
At least you can use it in town.
loanrangie
27th June 2007, 04:05 PM
We use the PDA in the bush and are quite happy with it.
I'm a tad disappointed about losing the program every time the battery goes flat but don't think I would like anything as big as a laptop screen in the passenger seat with me. There's bugger all room in the passenger front as it is :)
We'll be sticking with the PDA and working out how to get around the other problem :D
I got a new battery off ebay for $15 and that helped but still if its not used for 2 weeks or more it goes flat. I only use mine in the car so i just leave it in the mount on charge with the gps attached, if i want a larger screen then i can use the gps with the laptop - once stopped of course !
I did see on ebay a large screen (8.4") pda that would be ideal.
97discotdi
28th June 2007, 09:44 AM
The other thing that is a bit strange with the pda. Why has it got such limited memory when an ipod has 30Megabytes?:(
Michael2
28th June 2007, 11:49 AM
... but don't think I would like anything as big as a laptop screen in the passenger seat with me. There's bugger all room in the passenger front as it is :)...
I managed to pick up a bargain 2nd hand Toughbook. It has a touch screen, which is good for panning across maps, and smaller than a laptop. The screen folds back flat over the keyboard, so I use 2 velcro straps to attatch the keyboard to the lid of the centre console, then fold the screen over the top. I can look down on it, ot swivel the screen so that it faces toward me at an oblique angle. Or my navigator can fold the screen up to view it.
I also keep music as MP3s on the toughbook and play it through the radio via an FM transmitter. There are also workshop manuals in the harddrive, and the tough book has wireless capablilties.
I haven't yet, but I could load some movies for the kids to watch too.
The tooughbook is military spec vibration, dust and water resistant, so it's a match for the Defender.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/06/38.jpg
Tablet PC Panasonic Toughbook Cf 18 512/60 Touchscreen
http://203.166.22.179/panasonic_fetMedium_center/library/images/i003671.psd?&ts&cvt=gif
http://203.166.22.179/panasonic_fetMedium_center/library/images/i003676.psd?&ts&cvt=gif
loanrangie
28th June 2007, 11:55 AM
The other thing that is a bit strange with the pda. Why has it got such limited memory when an ipod has 30Megabytes?:(
I think you mean gig, ipods have from 1 gig in the shuffle up to 60 or 80 gig. Yes a hdd and usb port would be very handy in a pda.
matbor
28th June 2007, 02:29 PM
If you want something slightly bigger than a PDA but not as big as a Laptop you can get a UMPC (Ultra-Mobile PC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Mobile_PC)) that runs Windows Mobile OS and can therefore run OZI CE
For example, HTC's one... don't think there is any UMPC's on the market in AUS yet though.
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_x7501.htm
http://www.htc.com/product/PRODUCTS_IMAGES/x7501_141x228.jpg
97discotdi
30th June 2007, 09:48 PM
Thanks for picking up the deliberate mistake loanrangie, I told you I was a computer cretan. But you did pick up the jist, 80gig ipod, even a 10gig pda running windows 5 would enable us to run ozi.:twisted:
Blknight.aus
30th June 2007, 10:18 PM
We use the PDA in the bush and are quite happy with it.
I'm a tad disappointed about losing the program every time the battery goes flat but don't think I would like anything as big as a laptop screen in the passenger seat with me. There's bugger all room in the passenger front as it is :)
We'll be sticking with the PDA and working out how to get around the other problem :D
Thats easy... grab hold of the manual and see if you have the backup/restore program in the software build. IF so backup to the SD card and your done. full restore takes about 3 minutes and will make the machine look like it never went flat (well the time will be off)
if you dont have it the proggie is available for free from microsnot if you have a registered windows Mobile OS and will run straight from the card so if you loose the main one due to the batts being flat you can still do the restore from the mem card.
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