Brake pads for D2

[dobbo]

I'm up for brake pads soon, what brands had the brake problems generating brake sqeal on the D2?

Also is anyone running the Bendix pads with the titanium strip on them?

[Redback]

I'm up for brake pads soon, what brands had the brake problems generating brake sqeal on the D2?

Also is anyone running the Bendix pads with the titanium strip on them?

Get them from Karcraft, they are the cheapest for genuine pads, also check your rotors too, they normally go too after around 2 to 3 sets of pads, they are very cheap to replace, even genuine ones.

Baz.

[Loaded]

Get them from Karcraft, they are the cheapest for genuine pads, also check your rotors too, they normally go too after around 2 to 3 sets of pads, they are very cheap to replace, even genuine ones.

Baz.

Im am in the same boat here and will check out the Karcraft brand.
Any choices with the break discs ?.

[akelly]

I've got the genuine pads, and the squeal. I'd like to know if anyone has found a brand that doesn't squeal?

[dobbo]

My Rotors are ok for the moment but DBA vented discs are in the pipeline due to the amount of towing done in the car.

[PAT303]

EBC pads.No squeal dust or fade.They are dear but you get what you pay for. Pat

[Pedro_The_Swift]

no dust?!?:eek:

unbelievable.

[Green Monster]

I have a D2 V8 and couldn't believe the price of the OEM pads! After looking at the brakes I noticed theyre made by Lucas so I decided to look for a set of lucas branded pads. In brisbane I found a TRW/Lucas branded set and I think it was $82 for the fronts and $32 for the back. Beenleigh Bearings and suspension!:D:D

They produce dust on the front wheels but don't squeal. I replaced the pads to stop the squealing from interfering with and shutting down the traction control systems. They work well and don't seem to be wearing too rapidly as I have had them on for about 2 years/20000ks and tow a 2 ton trailer constantly.


Green Monster
D2 V8 Thermofan, M/Ts, Pod filter, TJM Bar< 3 Spotties
UNSTOPPABLE!!!!!!!!!!!

[Redback]

Im am in the same boat here and will check out the Karcraft brand.
Any choices with the break discs ?.

Don't know the after market brand they get from the UK, but they do genuine Land Rover cheaper than LR here.

As above the EBC pads are very good, but aren't cheap.

Also the better the pads the less Ks you get from your rotors.

Baz.

[Scouse]

Be careful with buying genuine Land Rover parts outside of a dealership.

There have been a few parts made in China, brake pads specifically that I know of, that are in Land Rover packaging but are the "inferior" product. They look all the world like genuine parts but don't perform like them (maybe that's a good thing).

I'd imagine that this will be happening with other parts soon, if it's not already.

[Redback]

Be careful with buying genuine Land Rover parts outside of a dealership.

There have been a few parts made in China, brake pads specifically that I know of, that are in Land Rover packaging but are the "inferior" product. They look all the world like genuine parts but don't perform like them (maybe that's a good thing).

I'd imagine that this will be happening with other parts soon, if it's not already.

Hi Scott, you would hope that a big company like Bearmach that Karcraft get their parts from would sell the actually genuine part, i certainly won't be very impressed if they are doing the wrong thing.

Baz.

[Scouse]

I also know of another large supplier of genuine/aftermarket parts who is having parts made in China.
One of the parts is a rather fast rotating part that commonly fails on Disco2's. They've found their Chinese part is failing an awful lot quicker than the original :mad:.

[Xtreme]

I also know of another large supplier of genuine/aftermarket parts who is having parts made in China.
One of the parts is a rather fast rotating part that commonly fails on Disco2's. They've found their Chinese part is failing an awful lot quicker than the original :mad:.

Similar experience recently with Td5 sump gasket - aftremarket one was actually 5mm longer than the genuine one between the two rear bolt holes. It's being returned to supplier.

I was fortunate to be advised, before using the aftremarket one, by a friend who had actually fitted an aftermarket one and it leaked quite badly - two weeks later he had to repeat the job - another oil change, a genuine gasket, a couple of hours work and a doubling of the expense. All becauce of inferior parts. And all necessary simply to check that oil pump bolt that in quite a number of cases wasn't installed correctly on initial assembly!!

[akelly]

Where can one find these EBC pads?

I've had enough of cleanin' wheels every 2 weeks, and the squeal is killin' me!

[duff]

AAHHHH the brake squeal :):(:D:eek::p

I have replaced pads, rotors, cleaned the pistons and guides,ensured brake bleed has been done correctly,, still bloody squealing. I am going to replace the calipers with a second hand set I have in the shed just to see if it is actually possessed or not.

I think I will invest in some EBC pads as well,,

I can recommend another product until you find your EBC stockist,,,
I think it should be supplied under warranty for the brake squeal,,,,:bangin: but you would have to contact your local dealer about that,,, it comes in single shot volume and really is the only thing that will fix the problem properly...

Sadly ,, like the landrover itself it can be addictive and expensive (also known to mess with some peoples brains). Supercrap might not stock it though, but a quick google for Valium should help.

:spudnikdaddyo::spudnikhurler::spudnikparty::spudn ikbackflip::spudnikshooter:



Where can one find these EBC pads?

I've had enough of cleanin' wheels every 2 weeks, and the squeal is killing' me!

[akelly]

Ah heh, heh, heh...

I find having the windows up and some sweet Hendrix pumping is a good temp cure for the sqeal... although I'll will my first-born to EBC if their pads do the trick!

On a serious note, I was considering puting a hacksaw cut diagonally through the friction material on the current pads (it used to work on sh!tbox EA falcons when I was an apprentice!) - has anyone tried this on a Disco?

[duff]

I have tried all the little tricks. I am considering two things at the moment that the calipers are worn , allowing the guides to rattle a little.

or

Mine squeal worst under lite braking, the last little coast (20 very noisey feet) before stopping. I have found that if I pump the brakes up prior to doing this lite braking the squeal is gone. This makes me also consider the bleed might be an issue. Perhaps under lite braking, due to one caliper being spongy, it may be only just be contacting the rotor and singing. I understand that if you dont use the testbook to bleed the brakes (drive the return pump) you can get air caught up in the ABS modulator.

I contacted Wabco and they said that while you will get brakes with a normal bleed, you really must run the return pump to fully purge the modulator. I'm not sure I have faith in the last Dealer dioing it fully.

I'm getting my shuttle valve replaced by British 4x4 Automotive soonish and of course will have the brake fluid replaced and bled correctly. I will hold off the pad change until after this to eliminate the bleed as a cause.

[rick130]

Not sure about current production EBC pads, but previous incarnations were pretty inconsistent batch to batch.
I was going to invest in some 4-5 years ago but was warned off them by one of DBA's engineers. They do a lot of dyno and real world pad/rortor testing, and he'd found the EBC pads to be really inconsistent.
AT that stage he reckoned Ferodo were well in front of everyone else in asbestos free compounding, but I've found the 4WD compound to squeal like a banshee on the rear of the 'fender when dusty or very muddy (like now).
Do a search, the EBC pads have been discussed before.

FWIW, Installed some Bendix 4wd pads on the front of the Patrol last week and they were fine right from the get go. Nice bite, etc, etc. Wanted Ferodo but couldn't get them on short notice and one pad had gone metal to metal (the other three OE Akebono pads were only just under 1/2 new thickness @ 255,000km :o SWMBO must be pretty light on the middle pedal)

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Not sure about current production EBC pads, but previous incarnations were pretty inconsistent batch to batch.
I was going to invest in some 4-5 years ago but was warned off them by one of DBA's engineers. They do a lot of dyno and real world pad/rortor testing, and he'd found the EBC pads to be really inconsistent.
AT that stage he reckoned Ferodo were well in front of everyone else in asbestos free compounding, but I've found the 4WD compound to squeal like a banshee on the rear of the 'fender when dusty or very muddy (like now).
Do a search, the EBC pads have been discussed before.

FWIW, Installed some Bendix 4wd pads on the front of the Patrol last week and they were fine right from the get go. Nice bite, etc, etc. Wanted Ferodo but couldn't get them on short notice and one pad had gone metal to metal (the other three OE Akebono pads were only just under 1/2 new thickness @ 255,000km :o SWMBO must be pretty light on the middle pedal)




how many sets of rear pads have you gone through.......?

ive found mine wears the rears twice before i need to replace fronts......

[rick130]

how many sets of rear pads have you gone through.......?

ive found mine wears the rears twice before i need to replace fronts......

yep, we'll need a second set of rears in the next few months, much the same as the Defender.

[aston]

Thanks Rick130

I have also found the EBC Pads hopeless after trying them a couple of times.
You might save on having dirty wheels but thats all.

For a start the EBC require much higher pedal pressures to work

They are hopless when they are cold - "they have a light up time"
eg: dont expect to pull up as quick if their cold

If you are driving along and havent used the brakes for a while and its necessary for you to pull up quick you are in for a suprise.

the other problem is that they dont come with anti squeal damping shims or material on their backs to help the pad retract

And the company that I work for sells them

I honestly cant see any advantage in them other than reducing the dust on the wheels by 50%

Cheers Aston

[twitchy]

Any choices with the break discs ?.

are they for dancing??

Sorry mate was to easy.............. There is a guy on ebay who sells discs for D1 & D2 for $175 a pair I think??

Bendix pads with the titanium strip are great, no squeal from mine in the Verada.
DBA rotors are very good ( Aussie) http://www.dba.com.au/2006/default.asp

[abaddonxi]

Thanks Rick130

I have also found the EBC Pads hopeless after trying them a couple of times.
You might save on having dirty wheels but thats all.

For a start the EBC require much higher pedal pressures to work

They are hopless when they are cold - "they have a light up time"
eg: dont expect to pull up as quick if their cold

If you are driving along and havent used the brakes for a while and its necessary for you to pull up quick you are in for a suprise.

the other problem is that they dont come with anti squeal damping shims or material on their backs to help the pad retract

And the company that I work for sells them

I honestly cant see any advantage in them other than reducing the dust on the wheels by 50%

Cheers Aston

Which EBC pads are you talking about?

That sounds like the higher spec green stuff or similar pads that are designed for great high temperature braking and sacrifice lower temp braking.

I bought a set of EBC pads from Karcraft, as far as I can tell they are the standard/oem replacement quality or better. I was told they had kryptonite or kevlar inside. At the time there were Mintex, Ferodo, Lucas, Lockheed, EBC available at Karcraft. Mintex cheap, Ferodo, Lucas, EBC, Lockheed expensive.

Turned out I didn't need new front pads so I can't say what the performance is like.

I'd like to hear if anyone else has these kevlar EBC pads.

Cheers
Simon

[Rudolf]

One question regarding fitting OEM rear pads.
Two has a directional arrow with recessed backing and two not marked with no recess. Arrows in direction of rotation.
I what arrangement do I fit them?
Arrows outside and unmarked inside?
Arrows inside and unmarked outside?
Arrows both on one caliper with unmarked the other?
Information sheet only stateds "Fit in direction of rotation"

[OffTrack]

One question regarding fitting OEM rear pads.
Two has a directional arrow with recessed backing and two not marked with no recess. Arrows in direction of rotation.
I what arrangement do I fit them?
Arrows outside and unmarked inside?
Arrows inside and unmarked outside?
Arrows both on one caliper with unmarked the other?
Information sheet only stateds "Fit in direction of rotation"

This might help?

http://www.landroverclubvi.com/uploads/2/3/9/8/2398536/rear_brake_pad_identification_markings_improved.pd f