Vehicle hoist? What capacity do i need?

[D110V8D]

Guys,

I'm looking at getting a hoist (2 post)for all those hard to do jobs, like pulling gearbox's, dropping axle assemblies etc.

My question to you all is....what capacity hoist would I require to lift a 110 or even a 130 for that matter? Now I know it's usually around the 2400kg mark (I think) but I'm wondering if a 2.5tonne hoist will be sufficient and safe. Should I go for a 3 tonne or even a 3.5 tonne?

Any recomendations regarding brand of hoist etc would be appreciated too.:)

And before anyone asks........yes it will be available for hire (cheap) on weekends etc when I am not using it.:angel: BYO tools and beer though.:D

[Bigbjorn]

Get the biggest capacity one you can afford. If you have resale value in mind, get a 240 volt one. Three phase hoists are commonly available second-hand or at auction, but having a 240v. one expands your possible buyer base exponentially. When you install it, leave at least 2 metres all around. You will find out why if you don't.

[weeds]

DRanged has one in his shed i'm pretty sure, PM him, he might be able to give some advise

[chosen]

The 110's (4 door wagon) kerb weight isn't that much I 'believe'... out of the factory they weighed in at just 2 ton - if you have extra fuel tanks and stuff it wont take long to exceed 2.5 ton so I'd go a 3 ton hoist, especially if you wanna feel comfy with other people using it on weekends.

[BigJon]

Get the biggest capacity one you can afford.

I agree 100%. Biggest safety margin.

We only use our 4 post hoist for Defenders, Rangies, Discoverys, etc.

Subarus and Freelanders go on the 2 post.

[Rosco]

In consideration of the fact the hoist would have a FOS (Factor of Satety) probably in the order of 4, I would expect a 2.5T would be adequate.

Cheers

[D110V8D]

Cool.:)

Thanks for the advice. Appreciated as always.:cool:

[BigJon]

In consideration of the fact the hoist would have a FOS (Factor of Satety) probably in the order of 4, I would expect a 2.5T would be adequate.

Cheers

Expecting something to be adequate is little compensation when 3 tonnes of Defender is resting on your head...:twisted:

[spudboy]

I've got a 2 mast 9000 Lb (pound?) hoist in the shed - single phase motor. Got it from TuffLift, which is American, and it was around $3K.

I've had fully loaded expedition Land Rover Defenders on it no problems. One was about 3000Kg and it was a bit slower to lift it, but no problems once up there.

The 2 leg ones flex a bit (2 or 3 inches wobble if you rock the car when it's up there), so I guess a 4 leg would be more stable.

I can give you the contact details of the guy to talk to if you like. He was excellent. It takes a couple of guys to install it though - not a job to do on your own, and you need a 15A power socket too.

[spudboy]

Here is the link to their basic model:

http://www.tufflift.com/page7.htm

8000 pounds is 3.6 tonnes, so mine must be a 4.0 tonne lift.

[D110V8D]

Thanks spudboy.:) I'll have a look...

I have 10amp, 15 amp and 3 phase.;):)

[spudboy]

I know it's an extravagance, but the older I get the less I like lying on my back under a tractor or Landie.

Once you've had one you wonder how you got by without it.

[Rosco]

Expecting something to be adequate is little compensation when 3 tonnes of Defender is resting on your head...:twisted:

True .... but if it complies with the relevant SAA Standard and is correctly installed that scenario WILL not occur. Even if it's overload it should in the parlance of Messrs R&R .... fail to proceed.

;)

[dobbo]

True .... but if it complies with the relevant SAA Standard and is correctly installed that scenario WILL not occur. Even if it's overload it should in the parlance of Messrs R&R .... fail to proceed.

;)


Totally agree, as for the wobbles surely a diagonal cross beam anchored to the ground would stop this problem.

[BigJon]

True .... but if it complies with the relevant SAA Standard and is correctly installed that scenario WILL not occur. Even if it's overload it should in the parlance of Messrs R&R .... fail to proceed.

;)

True, but if you could trust them that much they wouldn't come fitted with safety catches and strongly worded instructions to always use them :o.

[spudboy]

Totally agree, as for the wobbles surely a diagonal cross beam anchored to the ground would stop this problem.

It's not the 2 beams that wobble, they are well anchored and will not budge a mm, and they are linked across the top too (so there are no bars underneath - makes it easy to move around underneath the vehicle without tripping over anything).

It is the arms between the 2 posts and the vehicle. They have a degree of flex in them. I don't think it's anything to worry about. I was just pointing it out that it's not as solid as a 4 poster.

[Rosco]

True, but if you could trust them that much they wouldn't come fitted with safety catches and strongly worded instructions to always use them :o.

Yep .... but then again that's all to do with SAA compliance.

[Blknight.aus]

we have 2 types at work 3 +4 tons

the 3 tons struggle but manage and wobble like mad when lifting a GS let alone an LRPV

The 4 ton ones have double telescoping arms and are much more stable with much better guide plates for the lifting arms up the guide posts that do the lifting.

[Tank]

In consideration of the fact the hoist would have a FOS (Factor of Satety) probably in the order of 4, I would expect a 2.5T would be adequate.

Cheers
The safety factor is there for a very good reason, when a hoist is new and shiny you will get away with working at the rated Safe Working Load (SWL) or Working Load Limit (WLL) or even above it, but as the hoist gets older if you continue to exceed the SWL or WLL you are courting danger of collapse, esp if you buy a second hand one, stay within its working range and be safe, Regards Frank.

[Vern]

Wheres this going Mick? Not in the driveway i hope:)

[Bigbjorn]

My mate Howie, has a 3 ton two post Molnar. It struggles the last foot or so with the County-Isuzu, so perhaps a 4ton would be the go. Also, I am 6'1" an am slightly stooped over under this hoist, so height at maximum lift would need to be checked.

[D110V8D]

Wheres this going Mick? Not in the driveway i hope:)

No mate.....not in the driveway.:angel::D:D

[DRanged]

Hey Mate

I have a 2 post 3T Italian clear floor hoist. Basically each post has a 3ph motor
which are linked with a leveling cable. all services are overhead. It lifts my Isuzu rangie no problems as long as the screws and slides are properly lubed. Just be aware you may need to chain your diffs to the chassis before lifting if you have a lot of articulation. The trailing arm bushes dont like being twisted that much. Good access is a bonus, as long as you have the room. I would have gone for a 4 post, but at auctions you dont always get what you want hey.;)

Justin

ps whatever you get make sure it gets serviced along with the car.

[mcrover]

My mate Howie, has a 3 ton two post Molnar. It struggles the last foot or so with the County-Isuzu, so perhaps a 4ton would be the go. Also, I am 6'1" an am slightly stooped over under this hoist, so height at maximum lift would need to be checked.

Mick wont have that problem lol.

I have a Molnar 4 post I cant think of what KG it is, I will have a look tomorrow and add it.

It is great and lifts everything, it has a single phase motor wired to the 3 phase plug (I dont know how that works) and lifts the Disco like it wasnt even there.

With 4 tonne of tractor/Loader/500kg counter weight it struggles a bit but once up and locked in I feel comfortable.

I have the sliding Jack that can lift 1 end or the other and another sliding plate that I can mount stands on if I want all 4 up in the air.

Once youve got one you cant go back.

[D110V8D]

Mick wont have that problem lol.


Why do you say that? Because I have an alloy V8 or because I'm not 6' 1"?

At least I'm taller than I am wide.:p

[mcrover]

Why do you say that? Because I have an alloy V8 or because I'm not 6' 1"?

At least I'm taller than I am wide.:p

What are you saying there Mick :mad:

[mcrover]

I wasnt saying anything other than you are not 6'1" tall.

I pretty sure Im not 5'10" wide as well.

You really need to lose attitude of this eveyones against you who has a wise crack on the odd occasion.

[p38arover]

All right you blokes, cool it.

Let's add a few :) :) :)

not :mad: :mad: :mad:

Ron

[D110V8D]

I wasnt saying anything other than you are not 6'1" tall.

I pretty sure Im not 5'10" wide as well.

You really need to lose attitude of this eveyones against you who has a wise crack on the odd occasion.

So you have a crack at me and then I have a crack back......and I'm the one with the attitude?:eek:

I'm so sorry Damien. I should have known better than to insult his royal highness.

Gimme a break dude.

[mcrover]

So you have a crack at me and then I have a crack back......and I'm the one with the attitude?:eek:

I'm so sorry Damien. I should have known better than to insult his royal highness.

Gimme a break dude.

I didnt have a crack Mick......

I just said you werent 6'1 tall, if you have a problem with your hight then I wasnt to know.

Saying someone is as wide as they are tall is just bloody rude and insulting, saying that you wont have the problem of haveing to stoop is just humor.

You do have a problem Mick and Im not it, work it out and then I will give you a break.

[D110V8D]

PM sent.......

[wmg]

mick, you could be 6' 1" if you get some platform shoes.

[mcrover]

The PM was a real ripper :o

[spudboy]

Where's the love gone...........?

[mcrover]

Not much lost I dont think...:twisted:

[hiline]

The PM was a real ripper :o


Not much lost I dont think...:twisted:


Damo do you really think these replys were needed :no2:

[mcrover]

Damo do you really think these replys were needed :no2:


After the PM's........Yep.:D

[mns488]

After the PM's........Yep.:D
not if no one else sees them!:angel:

[hiline]

not if no one else sees them!:angel:


to true Matt ;)

PM stands for Private Message..........


i would hate to post some of the Private Messages i get from some people :o

[mcrover]

to true Matt ;)

PM stands for Private Message..........


i would hate to post some of the Private Messages i get from some people :o

I thought about it but I dont want anyone to get into trouble.

[hiline]

I thought about it but I dont want anyone to get into trouble.


Damo dont start this crap mate :mad:

i will not comment in here anymore as this is the Tech section not the bloody kids pen :p

[Outlaw]

OKAY PEOPLE BACK ON TRACK

this thread is about Vehicle Hoists and lifting capacities needed in case anyone forgot

[hiline]

OKAY PEOPLE BACK ON TRACK

this thread is about Vehicle Hoists and lifting capacities needed in case anyone forgot


sorry mate ........

but a couple of recent posts made wasn't fair in my books:angel:


i only read the tech section normally to find out info rather than posting as i know nothing about cars;)
as the term go's Knobjockey through and through :D

[Bushwanderer]

To paraphrase a recent reply on another thread. I'm not, and I suspect the readership agrees, that negative personal comments aren't appropriate to the forum.

I would appreciate them being PMs rather than replys to the thread

[sclarke]

Fight Fight Fight Fight......

Mr jenkins.... there is some kids fighting in the play ground.....

One has a Gun.....

[hiline]

To paraphrase a recent reply on another thread. I'm not, and I suspect the readership agrees, that negative personal comments aren't appropriate to the forum.

I would appreciate them being PMs rather than replys to the thread

now i wonder who this might be :angel::angel:

[Outlaw]

HOY back on topic

[D110V8D]

I'll go for a 3.5 tonne 2 post hoist.

End of thread.:)

[weeds]

I'll go for a 3.5 tonne 2 post hoist.

End of thread.:)

yep thats what i would get mick, i reckon it will pay for it self very quickly

[matbor]

yep thats what i would get mick, i reckon it will pay for it self very quickly



What is the going to be the going rate ? One slab of beer per hour :):)

[sclarke]

What is the going to be the going rate ? One slab of beer per hour :):)

Whats with the All blacks???


There is to be No mention of BLACKS or racism on this site......

[WOLLAPIT85]

shut up you WIGGER..

[sclarke]

Hey Whitey, dont you start on me.......

or i'l RoShamBo you................:)

[matbor]

Whats with the All blacks???


There is to be No mention of BLACKS or racism on this site......

Yes dear....

[Bigbjorn]

Whats with the All blacks???


There is to be No mention of BLACKS or racism on this site......

They come from the All Blek Islets, sometimes called East Tasmania. Their football team won the Ra Ra World Cup twenty years ago but never since, but they still think they are the World Champions. Must be the weather.

[LandyAndy]

Just so happy to have a hoist at work that is unused!!!!
Me and FatBaz are the only ones to use it regularly in the last 3 years!!!!
And its fully serviced for us,thanks to worksafe Sam:cool::cool::cool:
Andrew