daylight savings time

[Outback 1]

got this idea from aulro time thread:wasntme:so i thought i'd ask do you like it?{please post your opinions} thanks ken

[landyfromanuthaland]

Yes, its give us more time to things in the arvo before we lose the light,

[sadbenn]

I say if you want an extra hour get up early all you do in reality is work longer

[rovercare]

I say if you want an extra hour get up early all you do in reality is work longer

Bit hard when your start time is fixed, so getting up an hour early before work wouldn't achieve much:p

[100I]

I say bring it on Queensland. I think our last referendum was about '92. We're due again Anna.

[chosen]

You should add an indifferent thread or 50/50... that is me, I like it when I can go down the beach after work but I usually end up staying up really really late and that is not good for me :p

[JDNSW]

I usually wake up when it gets light - it is now (with DST) around six instead of around five, which seeing I tend to go to bed around the same time by the clock means I am getting a bit more sleep. On the other hand there is now a tendency to miss the main evening news because you are still working outside at 7pm. Also on Sunday missed "The Einstein Factor" because I didn't look at my watch in time.

Main problem is that most people tend to work until the light gives out, which gets pretty late in summer, particularly towards the west of the time zone, and an hour later with DST, but their get-up time is set by the clock not the sun, so daylight saving adds an hour to the working day. Unlike most of the people round here I seem to be better able to stop work by the clock, so it doesn't worry me that much.

When I lived in the city I was in favour of daylight saving, now I'm not all that worried about it either way.

John

[87County]

dst=ACWOT (a complete waste of time) AFAIAC :)

also, as John says, for those of us who don't have/need timepieces, it stuffs up our schedules for some time

[taff]

i think it's a fantastic idea - coming from the u.k. i don't suppose there's any surprises there.
i can't understand all the fuss about it either it doesn't mean you get less sleep except for 1 night. it takes only a little while (2 days) to adjust and it means all through the summer you get an extra hour of light in the evening.
i heard someone on the news crumbling about cows still needing to eat and all - but just make them wait the extra hour, it won't kill them and doesn't affect the livestock in all the country's where it's been going on for years. you will all get the benefit when on your holiday so just for that 2 weeks or whatever amount of time, then it makes it worth all the strenuos extra hard work of changing the clock twice a year...



















besides you've all got to get used to the idea that we're (us brit's) are moving here in buckloads, taking over again and bringing our good idea's and implimenting them :wasntme: :p:p:D:D:D:D

[jik22]

How about "I've lived in countries which have it, but I don't give a toss either way...it's only an hour, who cares?"

That would be me.... :D

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I have lived in Vic, and in QLD when they had the trial, and it suited me well. :)

[jimbo110]

It works so well we extended it by 3 weeks from this year on. The dairy farmers whinged about it for the first few years and now think nothing of it, just an extra hour of daylight after work and saves electricity too because you go to bed an hour earlyer. All good :D

[Loaded]

DST is good and the stupid cows wont mind.
SO QLD time to wake up and get onboard with the rest of the country. :twisted:

[87County]

the reason given in olden times as to why QLd didn't have it was because the then premier, Joe BP, thought the sun shone out of his own a*****le , and he didn't want to have to get up earlier every morning:)

anyway - doesn't it cause the curtains to fade more quickly??????????

[Bigbjorn]

Go and live through a summer in North or Western Queensland and you will sing a different song. They wish the sun to go down so they can get away from that blazing orb. There is no twilight in these latitudes, and the sun sets around 8.00pm real time in Mt. Isa mid summer. You don't get a decent sleep until the early morning hours after your house has cooled down. Try 47 degrees inside at 7.00pm and everything inside is warm or hot to the touch.

[Quiggers]

The xtra light at the end of the day is only one issue.

Here in far northern NSW, the sun's been up long before 5am, until daylight saving kicked in last week.

I dont like an 830pm+ sundown, as I'd like the kids to go to bed afore 10pm, but...

Must be a killer living in (particularly northern) QLD, where the sun rises, in summer, not long after 4am...

China has one timezone for the entire country, apparently, 6am in Shanghai is also 6am in the far west of China, where its actually 3am...

There is an easy way to sort DST, re meetings and cross border issues etc....

post all time locally as GMT +

GQ

[JamesH]

I hate it. Really really hate it.

:mad::mad::mad:!!!!!

I live in WA, we have daylight to burn. We don't need it.

[Bigbjorn]

Must be a killer living in (particularly northern) QLD, where the sun rises, in summer, not long after 4am...

GQ

Actually, in Mt. Isa, at the moment, it is still full dark at 5.30am with the street lights on, being so far west. In Brisbane it is lightening around 4.30 and daylight by 5.30. real time.

[CraigE]

Has its good points and bad points.
Love being able to walk down to the beach for a swim when warm with the kids during summer holidays.
Hate not being able to go for an early morning motor bike ride at 0500 cause now still dark and too many roos.
Hate the fact that you have to send kids to bed while still light, very hard to explain this to them or get them to go to sleep.
I think it depends on your agaenda, and may be great for those who work a 5-6 day week.

[rovercare]

I work a 12hr rotating shift where we come in at 0630 and leave at 1900 or 1830-0700

Shifty 1, wondering where his relief is at 0700 wanting to go home, calls shifty 2 at home

S1, "you coming in to work or what:mad:

S2, "Yea, of course I am:confused:"

S1, "what the **** are you doing then??"

S2, " getting in the shower, why??"

S1, "'cause your bloddy late for work"

S2, " what you on about??"

S1, "Daylight savings time, you goose"

S2, "Oh.......Sorry, be there soon

Sad part for the bloke wating is, his just pulled the lucky shift as you only do 11.5hrs and get paid for 12.5 and he had to wait around anyway:(:D

No I'm neither of them

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I must say with 2 young kids, even with very dark blinds it's hard to keep them asleep much past 5am in summer in Brisbane because it's already been light for some time by then.

I know potentially they would then be harder to get to sleep in the evening, but I think I'd rather have that problem than being woken at 5 am :o

[rangieman]

Im for daylight savings , and i work night shift :D

Spose ive got to open the curtains earlier before they fade :p

[mcrover]

I must say with 2 young kids, even with very dark blinds it's hard to keep them asleep much past 5am in summer in Brisbane because it's already been light for some time by then.

I know potentially they would then be harder to get to sleep in the evening, but I think I'd rather have that problem than being woken at 5 am :o

I was going to bring up that exact point for the nay sayers out there whinging about getting the kids to sleep.

All kids are different and I must be lucky as my 2 never were too bad to put down and both love their sleep but I do remember as a kid I was up at the crack of dawn with the old man out on the farm checking stock before he went to work on the CRB and then going to bed while it was still light and cracking the curtain over so I could read comics and stuff until it got dark.

It's not really a problem, it is the same amount of daylight hours that you would have anyway so just because of DST Nth QLD isnt going to get hotter, cows arnt going to be hungrier, curtains arnt going to fade quicker and the sun isnt going to burn out earlier because of it :wasntme:

Funny thing, Rovercare just reminded me of last week, some how I managed to be 1/2 hr late for work everyday but didnt get out of work on time all week so it all balanced out but I dont know what it was, maybe I was getting my self in the jist of a time change or something

[tombraider]

I was going to bring up that exact point for the nay sayers out there whinging about getting the kids to sleep.

All kids are different and I must be lucky as my 2 never were too bad to put down and both love their sleep but I do remember as a kid I was up at the crack of dawn with the old man out on the farm checking stock before he went to work on the CRB and then going to bed while it was still light and cracking the curtain over so I could read comics and stuff until it got dark.

It's not really a problem, it is the same amount of daylight hours that you would have anyway so just because of DST Nth QLD isnt going to get hotter, cows arnt going to be hungrier, curtains arnt going to fade quicker and the sun isnt going to burn out earlier because of it :wasntme:

Funny thing, Rovercare just reminded me of last week, some how I managed to be 1/2 hr late for work everyday but didnt get out of work on time all week so it all balanced out but I dont know what it was, maybe I was getting my self in the jist of a time change or something

Well phrased.....

And for the nay sayers.... Never move to Alaska :cool:

[tombraider]

Im for daylight savings , and i work night shift :D

Spose ive got to open the curtains earlier before they fade :p

Only issue with DST change over is that the "morning glory" now occurs when driving to work :TIC:

Just kidding!

[barryj]

What about those of us who have lived in a state that has trialled DST? Did like it or did not like it?

This needs to be added to the poll otherwise you are excluding all Queenslanders.

[cazzz12000]

the person that came up with the idea needs it inserted up his clacker

[300+]

Been some interesting replies on this.

The lack of daylight saving in Brisbane is a problem because:

1: Flights to other cities land at the same time. So the first flight to Canberra leaves at 5am (get up at 3:30am). The next one is too late to get to a morning meeting.

2: I like evenings were there is some light to be outside. Use my garden, BBQ on the deck, etc.

3: 4am sunrise is useless to me. Wakes kids up, etc. Means the house warms up sooner, less time to get things done before it is hot, etc.

4: Foxtel airs shows at the same time to all locations - effectively 1 hour earlier for Qld. The magazine they supply even has the schedule for NSW times so you have to add an hour. Guess they don't think Qld customers are important.

5: My mobile phone rang at 7am today as some idiot in Vic forgot where I lived.

6: I needed to reach someone at 5pm today who works in NSW. It was 6pm his time and he'd already left. It may only be a day, but the delay will be a problem for us.

If the timezone for Northern & Western Qld is wrong give them their own timezone. It is 3000KM away, why should we be in their timezone?

Maybe it is a result of growing up somewhere with long summer evenings and dark winter nights, but light = activity & outside, dark = inside and watching TV.

Cheers, Steve

[300+]

Well phrased.....

And for the nay sayers.... Never move to Alaska :cool:

Heh, I went to Alaska this summer. It was great sitting outside at dusk having a beer at 10pm.

Steve

[olmate]

Just voted that I liek it (after living in states that have it). But I couldn't really give a hoot. Don't have it up here but I don know that the family down south reckon its OK - so I'll go with that. ;)

[barryj]

the person that came up with the idea needs it inserted up his clacker

Are you sure it was a male who thought DST?

Who would want a male to get up one hour earlier and work one hour longer each day :angel:?

[Quiggers]

Actually, in Mt. Isa, at the moment, it is still full dark at 5.30am with the street lights on, being so far west. In Brisbane it is lightening around 4.30 and daylight by 5.30. real time.


Right there Brian,

sun up at around 0430 is a bit much, where I am, we see the sunrise very early....

we have a butcher in alstonville who opens his doors at 0500, as does the newsagent next door, very busy, doesn't anyone sleep?

GQ

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Please please give me daylight savings! The kids have been up since 5:20 this morning. AAARRGGGHHHH. :(:(

[googe]

I wonna know how they got the sun to wait for an hour :o must be strong government down there :eek: hope that made sence oh im in QLD :imwithstupid: :banana:

[numpty]

If, and it's a big if, daylight saving was ever introduced to Qld again, it would only be in the Sth East.

Time zones operate on Longitude, and as FNQ is a fair bit west of Brisbane, they don't have the problem of the sun rising at 4.15 in the morning and they get a longer afternoon anyway.

Our children were always in bed by 7.30 in the evening, and went to sleep, even when DST was operating in NSW. And yes they were early risers, but then I have problem sleeping after about 4.30 in the morning anyway.

[JDNSW]

Right there Brian,

sun up at around 0430 is a bit much, where I am, we see the sunrise very early....

we have a butcher in alstonville who opens his doors at 0500, as does the newsagent next door, very busy, doesn't anyone sleep?

GQ

My brother spent one summer in Greenland - where in summer the sun does not set. He reported that everything just keeps going 24hours a day, with people having naps anywhere , anytime, and by the end of summer an awful lot of very tired people.

I found it bad enough in a visit to Oslo in mid summer - although the sun sets, it never really gets dark.

John

[CraigE]

I work a 12hr rotating shift where we come in at 0630 and leave at 1900 or 1830-0700

Shifty 1, wondering where his relief is at 0700 wanting to go home, calls shifty 2 at home

S1, "you coming in to work or what:mad:

S2, "Yea, of course I am:confused:"

S1, "what the **** are you doing then??"

S2, " getting in the shower, why??"

S1, "'cause your bloddy late for work"

S2, " what you on about??"

S1, "Daylight savings time, you goose"

S2, "Oh.......Sorry, be there soon

Sad part for the bloke wating is, his just pulled the lucky shift as you only do 11.5hrs and get paid for 12.5 and he had to wait around anyway:(:D

No I'm neither of them
I would almost guarantee the bloke late was playing and knew exactly what was going on. Havedealt with heaps of people trying to play this type of ruse.

[Blknight.aus]

Im against it but only because Ive worked in a place that runs a fixed start time and you work till the work is done and when your working with guys from other contracts that come in after you do and then work till sundown that makes for some long days..


Id like it more if we did it in winter... that way I get the hour of sun at the end of the day when I need it theres plenty of light during the summer.....

[rovercare]

I would almost guarantee the bloke late was playing and knew exactly what was going on. Havedealt with heaps of people trying to play this type of ruse.

Most definately not the case, we're not paid 110k to be irresponsible, and it would be letting down your workmate.....

I understand, having worked with fools before, but this was genuinely forgotten

[numpty]

Not turning up for work because of DST. This happened last week when the Flight Crew for an interstate flight turned up an hour late:o, which of course didn't go down well with the flying public.

As an aside, twilight in the far northern and southern hemispheres is not such a problem, as of course unlike Qld, it's not 35 degrees plus and humid as all get out.

[longreach]

I ,d say no to day light saving ,why do we need it, in Queensland ??we have voted time and time again ...NO day light saving.......the rest of the southern states can do what they like,just leave us alone....we love our state the way it is:cool:

[Outback 1]

What about those of us who have lived in a state that has trialled DST? Did like it or did not like it?

This needs to be added to the poll otherwise you are excluding all Queenslanders.

this is covered i think in the first 2 options ,unfortunately the system will not allow me to change it:D

[numpty]

I ,d say no to day light saving ,why do we need it, in Queensland ??we have voted time and time again ...NO day light saving.......the rest of the southern states can do what they like,just leave us alone....we love our state the way it is:cool:

FWIW.....I only ever recall one referendum being held to gauge public response for daylight saving.;)

[barryj]

FWIW.....I only ever recall one referendum being held to gauge public response for daylight saving.;)


http://www.nodaylightsavingqld.com/zonal.htm

http://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/data/portal/00000005/content/74832001045105224609.pdf

I can't remember them as well, but that happened :angel:.

[Scott]

I just have to put my 2 bobs worth in.
I HATE IT BIG TIME
as a farmer, I work till dark, get in late ie 8.00-8.30 in summer. Miss all the news, decent TV. My partner works a fixed hour job so is home like most city people early. I don't get to see her, upsets meal times. I can see the benefits for those of you that do your 8-5 or what ever and your boss is not flexible to change your start time. But it really stuffs everyone else that can work their own time. The kids in the bush ie western kids get up in the dark to go to school, leave at the hottest time of the day, drive home on the school bus mostly without air conditioning in 40 degree temps. Then they should be in bed before the sun even goes down, when its too hot to sleep.
Its great for some but not for others. Spare a thought for the minority that don't like it, there are very good reasons why we don't. :)

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I just have to put my 2 bobs worth in.
I HATE IT BIG TIME
as a farmer, I work till dark, get in late ie 8.00-8.30 in summer. Miss all the news, decent TV. My partner works a fixed hour job so is home like most city people early. I don't get to see her, upsets meal times. I can see the benefits for those of you that do your 8-5 or what ever and your boss is not flexible to change your start time. But it really stuffs everyone else that can work their own time. The kids in the bush ie western kids get up in the dark to go to school, leave at the hottest time of the day, drive home on the school bus mostly without air conditioning in 40 degree temps. Then they should be in bed before the sun even goes down, when its too hot to sleep.
Its great for some but not for others. Spare a thought for the minority that don't like it, there are very good reasons why we don't. :)
Yep, that's why the SE corner should separate from the rest of QLD on this issue. That way there are two groups of happy people :eek::wasntme:

[tombraider]

I just have to put my 2 bobs worth in.
I HATE IT BIG TIME
as a farmer, I work till dark, get in late ie 8.00-8.30 in summer. Miss all the news, decent TV. My partner works a fixed hour job so is home like most city people early. I don't get to see her, upsets meal times. I can see the benefits for those of you that do your 8-5 or what ever and your boss is not flexible to change your start time. But it really stuffs everyone else that can work their own time. The kids in the bush ie western kids get up in the dark to go to school, leave at the hottest time of the day, drive home on the school bus mostly without air conditioning in 40 degree temps. Then they should be in bed before the sun even goes down, when its too hot to sleep.
Its great for some but not for others. Spare a thought for the minority that don't like it, there are very good reasons why we don't. :)

Getting home at that time is your choice...

Its 1 hour time difference.. Hottest time of day is 2-4pm so regardless, its going to be hot....

Buses without A/C is your areas issue, perhaps petition for an A/C to keep the little ones comfy!

And the sun sets 9 ish in summer anyhow.... little kids would still be going to bed light...

And A/C keeps houses cool too! :cool:

BTW... For the record... Inverell tomorrow is thus...

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1st Light 6:33
Sunrise at 6:59

Not a major issue....

And I'm pretty certain your kids are travelling in the Dark in WINTER anyhow.....

[Redback]

Didn't vote and couldn't care less either way on DST!!

Baz.

[JohnE]

Yep, that's why the SE corner should separate from the rest of QLD on this issue. That way there are two groups of happy people :eek::wasntme:



You wont get any arguments from me over that one,
I go over the border fairly regularly, have to remember going up I am an hour early, then after I have done whatever up there come back to an hour late.

north coast nsw= south cost qld, forgotten by macquarie street argued over and underfunded, some of the worst highway roads in the state,but we have plenty of rain.


john

[numpty]

http://www.nodaylightsavingqld.com/zonal.htm

http://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/data/portal/00000005/content/74832001045105224609.pdf

I can't remember them as well, bu tthat happened :angel:.

As I said, there was only one referendum.....in 1992.

[Outback 1]

it'd be a major pain if you lived in nsw but worked in qld ,or vice versa;)

[harry]

try this link:
http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/EPetitions_qld/currentEPetition.aspx?PetNum=931
for a petition for another daylight saving trial.
click on 931-07 for the petition.