D3 Safari Snorkels

[muppo]

I'm going to fit a snorkel to the TD in the near future and would like to know what everyones thoughts are regarding a Safari snorkel Vs the LR one, ie, wind noise, fit and finish, design issues if any? Thanks.

[PCH]

Muppo,

I fitted the LR Raised Air Intake (RAI) because at the time the Safari snorkel was not available. I chased Safari for about 1 year and finally gave up with all the delays.

Please note the LR version is not a snorkel like the Safari one. It is a Raised Air Intake and can let water into the air intake if you were sitting in water long enough. So determine what is most appropriate for your needs.

I can say that the LR RAI does not create any wind noise or whistling at any legal speed. If you have the window down a bit you will hear some sucking noise but that is about it. I do prefer the integrated look of the LR RAI over the Safari snorkel but if I had to make the choice again I'd go a Safari snorkel to be 100% sure in a deep water crossing. I can't comment on the Safari's noise factor.

Chris

[garryc]

I'm going to fit a snorkel to the TD in the near future and would like to know what everyones thoughts are regarding a Safari snorkel Vs the LR one, ie, wind noise, fit and finish, design issues if any? Thanks.
Like Chris I fitted the LR one because it was the only one available at the time. When fitting it I realised That water could get in where it goes through the mudguard so I put a double layer of tape around that area and silicon there and also where the the snorkel fits against the mudguard. Haven't had a chance to "test" it yet, might not if this drought keeps up:D It doesn't seem to make a lot of wind noise at higher speeds:)

[bigmac]

Hi Muppo,
I have the Safari snorkel fitted and don't get any wind noise from it
and it is a good fit. Had ARB fit it when they fitted the bull bar.

[muppo]

A Safari one it is then!

[Roger]

I am not sure if this thread is still active, but I will try anyhow, does anyone know if a Safari Snorkel that is listed for the TDV6 will fit and work OK with a V6 petrol D3 MY09? I am new to LR's and I am in country Vic, lots of dust (read drought) and with the air intake on the drivers side, it gulps in the dust when traveling down unmade roads and another vehicle is going in the other direction.

[Desert Traveller]

I don't believe that Safari make snorkels for the V6 or V8. The RAI should suit your purpose if water is not an issue.

[CaverD3]

If dust is the only issue then the LR RAI will be a better bet. There is not much difference in the price.
Not sure if the Safari will fit as the air box is different.
Contact safari and ask them?

[Roger]

If dust is the only issue then the LR RAI will be a better bet. There is not much difference in the price.
Not sure if the Safari will fit as the air box is different.
Contact safari and ask them?

Thank you both (CaverD3 and Desert Trav.) for the response, dust is the main issue at the moment, but I suppose I want both protections, water will be an issue whilst out in the bush touring. I will call Safari and see what they say and next time I am in town I will have a look at the differences under the bonnet of a TD6 in the sales yard, if they let me! Maybe I could fabricate something.

[CaverD3]

Maybe I could fabricate something.

Could be the way to go. I fabricted an entire snorkel including connections. :D

[andycapper]

It appears that having a Safari snorkel is not a guarantee that you can go paddling in safety - witness the D3 I saw at ULR about a month ago with the body off (to remove the drowned engine). It looked as if the snorkel had leaked where it joins the Land Rover air box - possibly a poor installation but worth bearing in mind whatever you choose....check the installation!

I spoke to people both at Land Rover Experience and the factory last year and their view was that provided it was sealed to the body, it was perfectly adequate - if you keep to the wading limits...

Hope that doesn't add too much confusion....

[Roger]

Hi Caver3 have you any pics or info of the fabrication and install that you did?

[CaverD3]

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic14190.html\

Copped some abuse for it being ugly from a 'Sepo' :confused:

But it should give you an idea of what is involved.:)

[andycapper]

It appears that having a Safari snorkel is not a guarantee that you can go paddling in safety - witness the D3 I saw at ULR about a month ago with the body off (to remove the drowned engine). It looked as if the snorkel had leaked where it joins the Land Rover air box - possibly a poor installation but worth bearing in mind whatever you choose....check the installation!

I spoke to people both at Land Rover Experience and the factory last year and their view was that provided it was sealed to the body, it was perfectly adequate - if you keep to the wading limits...

Hope that doesn't add too much confusion....

Sorry - re-reading this, I may not have been clear in my last comment, concerning Land Rover Experience etc, in that they were obviously referring to the Land Rover RAI (Raised Air Intake).

[300+]

But the wading limits are 700mm, so of course you are OK below that, RAI or not.

I've not measured it, but I'm sure the bottom of the intake hole in the wing is >700mm from the ground (or river bed).

Cheers, Steve

[rmp]

But the wading limits are 700mm, so of course you are OK below that, RAI or not.

I've not measured it, but I'm sure the bottom of the intake hole in the wing is >700mm from the ground (or river bed).

Cheers, Steve

700mm isn't necessarily 700mm.

If there is a flow upstream on the intake side it'll be deeper in effect.

If you hit a hole it'll drop in.

If you stop the bow wave will cease to exist and with it the dip around the front quarter panel.

Snorkels -- cheap insurance. You'd be mad not to IMHO. These engines are not a five-grand replacement you can source from a wrecker.

[300+]

Not disputing that - I was just laughing at the fact that the snorkel doesn't raise the wading depth.

Cheers, Steve

[CaverD3]

I would not expect LR to say it does no matter what you do.:angel:

[TDV6]

I fitted the Safari to my TDV6 in 2007, have had no problems with it. I was surprised at the dust tracks the genuine LR 90 degree rubber bends had in them so I am definitely of the opinion Safari is the way to go.

The other issue is that when entering water your diffs get to cool down very quickly meaning if the diff breathers are under water you get to suck it in, not air. I have asked my dealer where the breathers are located only to get confused responses, this may also contribute to the 700mm limit??.

[rmp]

D3 TDV6 doesn't need aftermarket breathers, LR got that right.

[CaverD3]

Front diff breather is next to the top of the radiator. The rear is behind the tail light.
Standard on the D3.:D

[def90]

Just as a reference, from the dealer my price for the LR RAI was $728 fitted, and I asked about the safari price, it was $1011 fitted....

Anyone have a price from ARB or the likes? I dont have my catalogue handy...

Personally I like the look of the LR RAI, but if it really doesnt have the waterproofing capability, I might need to go for the Safari.

Anyone have any pics of their Safari fitted? DO you trust its waterproofing ability?

Cheers...

[Tote]

The Safari snorkel is $793 fitted per the December 2008 ARB price list.
Regards,
Tote

[CaverD3]

Fitted properly the safari should be watertight but it is a good idea to check the connection to the air box from time to time.

[iannicki]

Opposite Lock have quoted me $753.20 - supplied and fitted. Now, just waiting for the car to arrive by slow boat from the UK.

[amaruskanic]

$671 (S&F) from ARB Fyshwick (ACT) earlier this month.
Andrew