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Fusion
19th January 2008, 06:39 PM
What is the best way to align the clutch plate ? I can get an input shaft by the end of next week but was hoping to do it monday . any other options ?:confused: Its the standard landy clutch on the back of my 2.25 petrol .

timaus13
19th January 2008, 06:45 PM
Hello wanalandy i use a quarter inch extension bar and build up the exact diameter of the clutch and input bearing on extension bar using electrical tape.
If u sight it from behind it works every time.
I have been using this method for years.
very bush mechanic method
cheers
hope it helps:D

olmate
19th January 2008, 07:10 PM
Ive tried everything from broom handles to the handles of large screwdrivers... more jammy than anything else there. I now have an input shaft and thats the trick.

If you dont mind mucking about a bit do as timaus13 suggests - it does work very well. Best to get a look at it and sight it up from behind as suggested. ;)

JDNSW
19th January 2008, 07:25 PM
A careful inspection of your collection of sockets may reveal one the right size. If not, pick one undersize and build up with electrical or masking tape.

If you have access to a lathe, turn one up out of just about anything - I used wood on the last one I did on my tractor. Needs to have one diameter a push fit in the spigot bush/bearing and the other to fit inside the splines in the plate, also a push fit, and enough extra to be able to pull it out after the pressure plate is tightened down.

John

Bigbjorn
19th January 2008, 07:47 PM
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If you have access to a lathe, turn one up out of just about anything - I used wood on the last one I did on my tractor. Needs to have one diameter a push fit in the spigot bush/bearing and the other to fit inside the splines in the plate, also a push fit, and enough extra to be able to pull it out after the pressure plate is tightened down.

John

JD, a clutch aligning tool was and still is a first year apprentice college job for fitter/machinists in Qld. Exactly as you describe, with a knurled hand grip. Dimensions were usually provided for a variety of popular vehicles, to be chosen by the apprentice. Still have mine, for 48/215-FJ Holden. A turning between centres exercise, time allowed 45 minutes. Material- black bar to be set in a four jaw chuck, centred each end and faced to length, then turned and knurled between centres.

JDNSW
19th January 2008, 07:51 PM
JD, a clutch aligning tool was and still is a first year apprentice college job for fitter/machinists in Qld. Exactly as you describe, with a knurled hand grip. Dimensions were usually provided for a variety of popular vehicles, to be chosen by the apprentice. Still have mine, for 48/215-FJ Holden. A turning between centres exercise, time allowed 45 minutes. Material- black bar to be set in a four jaw chuck, centred each end and faced to length, then turned and knurled between centres.

Rather more elaborate than my wooden one turned up out of a piece of scrap timber - but probably did it in ten minutes - and sorry, it was not knurled!

John

UncleHo
20th January 2008, 11:24 AM
G'day Folks :)

I think that you will find that you can still buy a Universal Clutch Aligning Tool from such places as Supercheap/AutoPro, and REPCO, then just build up the shaft with masking tape to match the spiggot bush size, so you can centre the shaft and clutch alignment cone;) but an old Input Shaft is the way to go and all your landy owing mates will pay you lots of cans for your special aligning tool.

cheers

rovercare
20th January 2008, 11:58 AM
Universal clutch aligner tools are useless, there is only 2 ways to align a clutch

1. with an old input shaft/machined dummy

2. use your peepers:D

Fusion
20th January 2008, 01:10 PM
Thanks heaps guys ;) . I have done it by eye for now .But if i get a little upset that it won't go in i'll try a sledge hammer :D:wasntme:

srowlandson
20th January 2008, 04:10 PM
Thanks heaps guys ;) . I have done it by eye for now .But if i get a little upset that it won't go in i'll try a sledge hammer :D:wasntme:
had this exact same dilemma this weekend, i ended up using the handle form my engine stand, just the right diameter :D

Need a second pair of hands and a trolley jack to get the engine in, should be in and fired up this week :)

ended up spending the weekend putting all the floor and trans tunnel back in

Steve

lro11
20th January 2008, 04:27 PM
JD, a clutch aligning tool was and still is a first year apprentice college job for fitter/machinists in Qld. Exactly as you describe, with a knurled hand grip. Dimensions were usually provided for a variety of popular vehicles, to be chosen by the apprentice. Still have mine, for 48/215-FJ Holden. A turning between centres exercise, time allowed 45 minutes. Material- black bar to be set in a four jaw chuck, centred each end and faced to length, then turned and knurled between centres.

Not anymore now they make a bush drift same idea though

awabbit6
20th January 2008, 04:29 PM
I always do it by eye and use a 1/2 inch socket extension to move the clutch plate into position - gearbox and engine have always mated perfectly ;)

Bigbjorn
20th January 2008, 05:30 PM
The bush drift was also a first year exercise. All they have changed in the last fifty years is to express the dimensions in metric. Others unchanged are the small vee thread machine jack, the larger square thread machine jack, the vee blocks, the toolmakers clamps, the surface guage, the three small surface plates.

Fusion
21st January 2008, 03:38 PM
Ok no tools required :D . i have the eye of an eagle:eek:. motor and gearbox mated up first go . Thanks to all the replys;)

BigJon
21st January 2008, 04:12 PM
Well done. I usually use the Mark One Eyeball to good effect.