defender front drive shaft

[incisor]

on a 95 defender front drive shaft

should the sliding spline be at the diff end or transfer shaft end.

workshop manual doesnt show it :P

[harry]

i know you know the disco one is at the t'case end. have no idea really

[JDNSW]

Haynes 2017 Landrover 90, 110 & Defender 1983 to 1995 Diesel:-

"8-2.8 a) Ensure that the propeller shaft is refitted with the sliding joint towards the front of the vehicle (nearest the front axle)."


John

[Blknight.aus]

I install them with the slip joint closest to the Tcase mainly becuase it helps keep it out of the muck

[incisor]

so having it back to front wont create a **** load of vibrations at low revs?

[rovercare]

so having it back to front wont create a **** load of vibrations at low revs?

No;)

I do as Blknight does, slip joint at the Tx end

[incisor]

bitchin.

thats means it must b serious dam it...

dave, when you home?

[JDNSW]

Be interesting to know why they say to put it at the front.

Logic would suggest that putting it at the back up out of the muck would be better, but then there is the other point - with the joint at the front, the join between the two parts is facing backwards, but if you put it at the back, the join is now facing forwards, where the muck is more likely to be forced in. Of course if you have an (undamaged) boot on it, this is less of a concern, either way.

John

[LandyAndy]

I would have thought,without looking at any it needs to be where all the movement is,ie diff end.Thats why they have gaiters to protect the joint.
Andrew

[Blknight.aus]

bitchin.

thats means it must b serious dam it...

dave, when you home?

right now.

[incisor]

wedding anniversary, went out..

looks like it is going to end up being transfer case imho

will get onto you dave and arrange a time for you to confirm the diagnosis..

is worse with the front shaft out and the back in than what it is the other way round.

you get the rumble, and a tight/loose rythmic slap rattle noise as well

is okay at speed, just woefull at under 5 kph..

[Blknight.aus]

does it do it while your coasting with your foot on the clutch or in angel gear?

if it does try it in both high and low range on the tcase and if that makes no change get up to speed then knock the tcase into Nuetral.

If that makes no change its going to be a diff, sticking brake, (have you checked the calipers for temp after a bit of a cruise) wheel bearing (tho more than likely not) or one of the bottom end bearings/gears on the Tcase.

[incisor]

makes no difference if in hi or lo or neutral or coasting

clutch appears to have no effect

doesn't feel like a wheel bearing or brake disc.

the is a definite rumble / bearing noise / chatter at very low speed when rolling to a halt. seems worse downhill

with the rumble / vibration is what appears to be a tightening / loosening that make a noise as it takes up the slop in the transfer then loosens again.

has me in how it can be so present at 1-2kph but not present at 40kph

there are two bands of light vibration, one at about 50kph and one at about 90kph.

the one at 1-2kph makes the whole body, dash, gear lever and steering wheel chatter.. loudly.

never seen anything like it...

[JDNSW]

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the one at 1-2kph makes the whole body, dash, gear lever and steering wheel chatter.. loudly.

never seen anything like it...

In my experience, that symptom is always the handbrake dragging! Although I am prepared to believe it could be other things, but I would expect it to be something dragging in the transfer case area if not the handbrake.

John

[incisor]

i have tried with the hand brake backed off till it took 6 clicks to start to tighten and at 3 clicks where it is supposed to be adjusted to and it didnt change a thing at all.

it is not touching the drum when off because i can move it very easily by hand without any apparent noise of shoe rubbing etc.. had plenty of practice last day or so whilst removing shafts...

[Blknight.aus]

I have.. check your Cv joint oil level + condition, yesterday....

ignoring the Tcase noise (my stethescopey kit will woth that one out) the other thing Ive seen (once and once only) is a ball punching out of the CV and floating around in the swiv housing.

wasnt till we got the thing off of the ground and turned the wheels slowly by hand that we had the noise coming from the axle and we thought we had it pegged as a dying wheel bearing (nope brand spankers or near enough) and when we put the drive flange back on we had to twist it and it felt "notchy" since youve got to pull the ends to pull the diff (which was what we suspected) we caught it when with the axle out it was still notchy.

[incisor]

I have.. check your Cv joint oil level + condition, yesterday....
was converted to wet bearings just before cooma and i did a check last weekend and was fine, but will check again tonite.. one never knows.


ignoring the Tcase noise (my stethescopey kit will woth that one out) the other thing Ive seen (once and once only) is a ball punching out of the CV and floating around in the swiv housing.

wasnt till we got the thing off of the ground and turned the wheels slowly by hand that we had the noise coming from the axle and we thought we had it pegged as a dying wheel bearing (nope brand spankers or near enough) and when we put the drive flange back on we had to twist it and it felt "notchy" since youve got to pull the ends to pull the diff (which was what we suspected) we caught it when with the axle out it was still notchy.

:eek:

hmmmmmmmmm

only good to come out of it all so far is i have found two body mounting brackets that were cracked thru and i got the pleasure of welding them up and getting covered in spatter :P