Best way to cut a big lock???

[stirlsilver]

Ok... so I use a padlock on my spare tyre to keep anyone from stealing it. I was washing my car today and swapping my tyres, so I just swapped the spare over, locked it and left the key on the tray. I then stupidly got in and went for a drive to subway and when I got there I ended up finding that I lost the key!

So anyway. What's the best way to cut this thing? I'm thinking an angle grinder with a cutting disc? yes?

[waynep]

Bolt cutters ......the real big ones.

[George130]

Bolt cutters ......the real big ones.
and if that don't work wrap a 30meter chain around a couple of major trees and the tyre and take if like you stole the rig.

Use bolt cutters and then if you have to resort to the mangle grinder

[Blknight.aus]

a dremel with a diamond abrading wheel will work but dont let it get too hot or the disc will shatter.

but they are hard to get so in no particular order.

a Die grinder

Big bolt cutters

An Arc welder

A mig welder

A gas axe..


jsut depends on how much room you have

[vnx205]

I think big bolt cutters are the way to go.

When I was building my house several years ago, that is what was used by some b******d who cut the lock put on the gate by the Electricity Commission so that he could help himself to my Durden Junior Joiner and a few other tools.
That Elec Comm padlock was pretty big and it did a pretty neat cut.

In fact it always amused me that he chose to cut the hasp on the padlock when the chain links were only about 1/4 the size.

[Sleepy]

I have seen a locksmith pick one in a few minutes. Not sure how much they would charge.

[abaddonxi]

If you're going the angle grinder, grind the body of the lock - usually brass - rather than the hardened steel hasp.

Cheers
Simon

[stirlsilver]

Ok... so who has some big bolt cutters around my area :D haha. I have access to a mig, So the idea with using the mig is to make the metal softer by heating it and letting it slowly cool? ANd then hit it with an angle grinder? Or just crank the mig up and try to blast through the metal?

I can see my alloy rim getting punished here :eek:

[tonyt]

try to freeze the lock with liquid nitrogen and snap it of:)

[mudmouse]

Try your local Police station. Whenever someone leaves their gun key at home the Sgt gets out the 'big red key' to snip the padlock off. It's easier to bust the lock than go through all the crap to have a Duty Officer find the spare key and 'authorise' you to use it:mad:.... Should have left it like the old system - chuck the .38 in your locker, take it home, hide it under a desk....

Give it a go, it'll probably be the only free option:)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Hey Mudmouse!

what are you trying to say?

that you lose a lot of keys?:angel:

[mudmouse]

Moi!

Perish the thought...:angel:

I did leave them at home once.........alright twice. But that was long ago.

But I've never lost my gun!:)

[Blknight.aus]

Ok... so who has some big bolt cutters around my area :D haha. I have access to a mig, So the idea with using the mig is to make the metal softer by heating it and letting it slowly cool? ANd then hit it with an angle grinder? Or just crank the mig up and try to blast through the metal?

I can see my alloy rim getting punished here :eek:

cut a slot in your fire blanket place it over the wheel and pull the lock through the solt, crank the welder up to the limits and then weld the brass off. once youve got it seamed give it a couple of whacks with a hammer.

[Disco300Tdi]

Stirlo, Stirlo, Stirlo, I will not ask where the spare key is.....:o

[Slunnie]

You can get into most padlocks and combination locks, and you can get any lock off somehow. Also, ignore the word "hardened" on some locks. The only thing hardened was the die that stamped the word, so I wouldn't bother using methods to open "hardened locks" or annealing etc. Thats also why my master key opens all locks, even hardened ones. It's red and has 2 very long handles.

If you don't have the key, I'd just hacksaw/bolt cut/angle grind etc it off. Think very carefully about using welding heat near your alloys. If you have an angle grinder/cutter it heats sufficiently to destroy any heat treatment anyway.

[GregTD5]

Hit the top of the lock with a hammer and cold chisel should undo the internal locking mechanism.

[stirlsilver]

Stirlo, Stirlo, Stirlo, I will not ask where the spare key is.....:o

I think the spare key is in QLD... But I really would like to be able to get to my spare tyre.

The funny thing is that the tyre sits on my tray held on with a ratchet strap. And as a bit of a deterrent I lock it with some steel cable. Now me in my infinite wisdom thought, nah someone will just chop the steel cable and take off with the tyre, so I put the lock though one of the bolt holes so if it did get stolen they would have to deal with the lock still... Low and behold, I find myself in that very predicament. :mad:

[Lucus]

:).

[DEFENDERZOOK]

hey guys.......simple padlocks are really easy to pick.......
a 2 min search on you tube on how to pick a lock.......and two simple
tools found on your desk and it will painlessly pop open in less than a minute......


and you will also know how to open your front door should you lock yourself out of your house......

[JohnE]

Try your local Police station. Whenever someone leaves their gun key at home the Sgt gets out the 'big red key' to snip the padlock off. It's easier to bust the lock than go through all the crap to have a Duty Officer find the spare key and 'authorise' you to use it:mad:.... Should have left it like the old system - chuck the .38 in your locker, take it home, hide it under a desk....

Give it a go, it'll probably be the only free option:)


you must be a fossil , no one still working remembers .38's let alone what we used to do with them.

john

[Bigbjorn]

A friend had a car hire business with his storage yard and workshop in a rough part of Sydney. He had some US made padlocks on the gates that left nice round indentations in the jaws of bolt cutters. I believe they were quite expensive locks but did succeed in keeping the gates closed against the depredations of the youths from the local community. A couple of man eating dogs inside ensured against fence hoppers.

[Outlaw]

or get your hands on one of these :D
Lock bumping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_bumping)

[Aaron]

So...Numpty is not the only one to do this sort of thing then :D Things lost from being left on vehicles over the years range from watches and beer tankards to tools :(

I lost a Staun Deflator about 40 minutes after buying a set. Left it on the bonnet while I put the other valve caps on. Now I only have three - VERY aggravating.

[Bushwanderer]

So...Numpty is not the only one to do this sort of thing then :D Things lost from being left on vehicles over the years range from watches and beer tankards to tools :(

Guilty!:(

I think that my most embarrassing example was with my D1. I swapped the spare for one of the road tyres & then took it for a drive to make sure everything was OK. The only trouble was that I didn't fit the removed tyre on the spare wheel carrier. Three wheelnuts are now distributed around Sydney.:eek:

[Sprint]

as another method for opening a padlock, look up a lockpicking tool known as a "shim"

basically it can be made from a beer can, and is used to slide the locking pin in the padlock out of the way so you can open it

personally, i've allways used the 2 hammer trick

[stirlsilver]

Well that was easy...

Angle grinder, cutting disc and 5 seconds per cut:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/05/340.jpg

[Slunnie]

Yale! Those, Lockwood and Papaiz were the 3 that used to stop me/us in our young lockpicking days.

Everything else including combination locks were easy.

I always buy Lockwood these days if its anything I care about, but a lot will have changed since I was in Yr7.

[p38arover]

It was a good thing it wasn't a shrouded lock like I use:

http://www.drillspot.com/pimages/321/32151_300.jpg

[stirlsilver]

Yale! Those, Lockwood and Papaiz were the 3 that used to stop me/us in our young lockpicking days.

Everything else including combination locks were easy.

I always buy Lockwood these days if its anything I care about, but a lot will have changed since I was in Yr7.

You obviously didn't have an angle grinder and a portable generator back then :p

[Slunnie]

You obviously didn't have an angle grinder and a portable generator back then :p
Or bolt cutters. :( We called them the master key at my old work.

Nah, we just picked for the challenge of picking. None of us were interested in theft.

[p38arover]

Nah, we just picked for the challenge of picking. None of us were interested in theft.

Sounds like my staff back in the '80s just before I took over the group. The computer section had magnetic swipe cards. The techs found a way to read them and make their own. They made up a number of cards so they used them to swipe for entry.

Management was bamboozled by people departing before they had left, by exiting doors they had never entered, etc.

[carjunkieanon]

If you don't have big enough bolt cutters, go to your local fire brigade. Ask them to use their jaws of life.

My sister once called the fireys to cut a bike chain (she works for a tour group). The fireys had a ball, got photos taken with all the tourists.

have you solved your problem yet?

[waynep]

Those big bolt cutters aren't all that expensive these days from places like Bunnings and I've even seem them in Super Cheap ( not sure of quaility however ) they do come in handy at times.

Buy some Stirling and then you can loan them to your buddies. :D

I have a smaller set about 700mm long but they won't cut your padlock.

[rovercare]

I got a bigass set off bolt cutters:)

[p38arover]

Re my post above about security cards, see the story about it here:
The Great Chubb Card Hack (http://58.108.165.25/otc/stories/great_chubb_hack/great_chubb_hack.htm)

[VladTepes]

you must be a fossil , no one still working remembers .38's let alone what we used to do with them.

john


Plan A
1. Discharge 6 shots in general direction of the bad guy.
2. Having established that perhaps you should have done more range practice, and have missed by a significant margin, go to Plan B.


Plan B.
1. Notice how a revolver, when swung by the barrel, shows similarities to a hammer.
2. Attack bad guy, striking out with hammer-like object.
3. The bad guy, having established you are insane, decides he'd rather not p*** you off, and surrenders.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Plan A
1. Discharge 6 shots in general direction of the bad guy.
2. Having established that perhaps you should have done more range practice, and have missed by a significant margin, go to Plan B.


Plan B.
1. Notice how a revolver, when swung by the barrel, shows similarities to a hammer.
2. Attack bad guy, striking out with hammer-like object.
3. The bad guy, having established you are insane, decides he'd rather not p*** you off, and surrenders.

My take on Plan B3 is

The bad guy doesnt count HIS bullets
:angel:

[B92 8NW]

Re my post above about security cards, see the story about it here:
The Great Chubb Card Hack (http://58.108.165.25/otc/stories/great_chubb_hack/great_chubb_hack.htm)

Haha, thanks Ron loved it!:D

How lame, an offset from the card number... I'd have loved to work with the older generation computers.

[p38arover]

I'd have loved to work with the older generation computers.

Maybe not with our hard "disk" - actually a drum - a Fastrand Drum, all 100Mb of it. See The fastrand drum (http://www.history-of-computer.com/fastrand.html)

[Slunnie]

Maybe not with our hard "disk" - actually a drum - a Fastrand Drum, all 100Mb of it. See The fastrand drum (http://www.history-of-computer.com/fastrand.html)
100mb? Maybe you would have been better off using a USB stick or something. :D

[p38arover]

I think I paid $500 for a 1.2 MB floppy drive for my first computer - in the early 80s. $500 was a lot of money then. I know I paid $800 for my first dot matrix printer (still got it).

[2 rocks]

Ok... so I use a padlock on my spare tyre to keep anyone from stealing it. I was washing my car today and swapping my tyres, so I just swapped the spare over, locked it and left the key on the tray. I then stupidly got in and went for a drive to subway and when I got there I ended up finding that I lost the key!

So anyway. What's the best way to cut this thing? I'm thinking an angle grinder with a cutting disc? yes?

semtex :twisted:

[VladTepes]

I know I paid $800 for my first dot matrix printer (still got it).

Yeah those old printers are fantastic...









... for holding doors open on windy days
... for weighting crab pots
... for throwing at people who wake you up on a weekend morning to convert you to a religion of their choice.

[Tango51]

I bought a lock and chain from USA via Europe and it is ranked
"6 hours Plasma Cutter, cvannot be drilled"
Used it to secure many things including Industrial shed door, no-one has scratched it.
Don't have a use for it now but man, did it serve it's purpose!

[matbor]

try to freeze the lock with liquid nitrogen and snap it of:)

can of compressed air, held upside down and sprayed at the lock and then hit with a hammer.... haven't tired it, but looks like it works, maybe not on large locks though !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGU8CkOG9a8

[DeeJay]

you must be a fossil , no one still working remembers .38's let alone what we used to do with them.

john


Ahhh - Victoria - Welcome to the fossil state

Semi-automatic move a 'no-brainer': Mullet - National - theage.com.au (http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/gun-move-a-nobrainer/2008/05/15/1210765009923.html)


Our cops have .38 Smith & Wesson revolvers. And they remember what to do with them.:cool:

[mudmouse]

Ahhh - Victoria - Welcome to the fossil state

Semi-automatic move a 'no-brainer': Mullet - National - theage.com.au (http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/gun-move-a-nobrainer/2008/05/15/1210765009923.html)


Our cops have .38 Smith & Wesson revolvers. And they remember what to do with them.:cool:

This is slightly off topic but.......

The NSW and Victorian cops are having a briefing prior to a search warrant on the boarder. At the end of the briefing the boss says to the Vic's, "Righto, if you blokes promise not to shoot anyone, we'll promise not to steal anything":D I think that was a joke:angel:

The .38's have been out of NSW since about 1997...but it took two young blokes up the coast to get killed to make the move. Chrisitne Nixon is a GOOSE!!