Re-Upholstering a Roof Lining

[Jock The Rock]

Gaday

i have a 110 2 door defender, the bloke who owned it before me went on some trips in the outback and so on so it is pretty dirty and sags like nothin else. i was wondering i can fix the sag myself but today i went in for a quote to have it re upholstered (just the roof lining i took it out myself).

The bloke said $160

Would you say that is a bit steep just to put some new fabric on an almost flat surface?

i may end up just buyin the material and try doin it myself?

Thanks for ur help and advice

Jock

[rrturboD]

A couple of years ago I redid my RR headlining, using 3M spray on contact adhesive, and a textured/knitted fawn coloured fabric. May have cost me $60. My advice would be to use plenty of glue.

[p38arover]

Don't waste your time doing it yourself. It will fall off again as the foam backing is deteriorating.

[gromit]

I went through this a few years ago when the headlining on my Defender started to sag. I remember all the useful comments like 'hold it up with drawing pins', 'put a hat holder in as that will hold it in place', 'cut slits and inject some glue behind it', 'fit an overhead console' .....

The original lining is a PVC type of material which is great because it can be washed but every single motor trimmer I spoke to could not offer a replacement material so it meant a complete new headlining (from memory just one section was over $1,000 from LR). So it had to be replaced with a conventional headlining material.
As p38arover commented it's the foam backing which is breaking down. The headlining material has a very thin layer of foam on the back and it is the foam that is glued to the headlining board. With time/heat etc. the foam breaks down and you get a saggy lining.
Mine cost about $130 2 years ago but I removed & refitted the boards myself (and cleaned off all the foam residue) so the price quoted sounds about right. While the boards were out I reinforced them over the Alpine windows because they were starting to sag.

If you do it yourself you need to be careful with the gluing process. If you push the material down too hard the glue squeezes through the foam so the material bonds through the foam and the surface ends up with a 'dent' in it which is impossible to get out. You need to spray glue the board and very carefully smooth the material into place, then wait a day or so to ensure the glue is completely dry before re-installing the headlining (otherwise you put dents in as you install it !).

Hope this helps.....

Colin

[Disco_owner]

Fibre Glass the roof side of Foam-Backing first ;)and then Glue the Fabric to the Foam lining , I have had great success with this . had done it 5 years ago and nothing has sagged .. and rooflining looks good too ,the process is time consuming but the end result is definitely worth it.

[Jock The Rock]

Mine cost about $130 2 years ago but I removed & refitted the boards myself (and cleaned off all the foam residue) so the price quoted sounds about right. While the boards were out I reinforced them over the Alpine windows because they were starting to sag.

Colin

thanks mate

mine is only a 2 door troop carrier so only the part above the driver is lined with fabric rather than the whole roof.

thats why i thought it was a bit steep?

Jock

[Jock The Rock]

i got it all done cost $130 cash but was well spent i reckon. had it done in stuff a bit like carpet so the foam backing doesnt rot and droop, also its possible to just vacuum the stuff which is good

ill post some pics up tomorrow personally i think looks pretty good

Jock

[Jock The Rock]

here goes. also to fix the problem of the sag in the middle of the lining, i drilled up through the rib in the roof and put some of the upholestry screws (dunno wot they are called :D) in holds it up pretty well i reckon.

does anyone know how to post the pics up so that u dont have to click on them to see full size. so the come out in full size in the post? ;)

Thanks

Jock

[Jukebox]

Hey guys
I did my Disco like Jock.
Looks ok with all the plugs (get them form Repco etc).
people laugh at it but I'm a tight **** and I'm the only one that has to look at it anyway.
No joke Landrover must have used Perkins Past on it.(only old dudes will know what that is.)

Harry
Disco 97 TDI :):)

[defmec]

roof linings are for girls:D rip it out put it in the bin and paint the ceiling black .heaps more room and less too worry about and the rain is not that loud hitting the roof any way

[VladTepes]

Jukebox: LOL = Oh bugger, that means I;m old.
For the kids: Perkins Paste - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Paste)

Jock: Looks as if the existing cardboard (or whatever it is) roof lining was recovered in the carpetty stuff, yeah ? Do you know what the actual product is ? Is it like that marine carpet stuff ?

oh, and what does the light mount to ?

[Bushie]

A couple of years ago I redid my RR headlining, using 3M spray on contact adhesive, and a textured/knitted fawn coloured fabric. May have cost me $60. My advice would be to use plenty of glue.

When I did my Rangie (probably 25+ years ago) I used 3M spray on one section and Selleys "quick grip" on the other - my advice would be use the "quick grip"


Don't waste your time doing it yourself. It will fall off again as the foam backing is deteriorating.

The part I used the quick grip on was still going strong when I traded it for the Defender, I think the heavier glue is able to soak/work into the lining and bind it all together.

I'll let you know soon as I think I'll be going down this line with the Defender as well - It's starting to sag all over the place :mad::mad::mad:


Martyn

[Jock The Rock]

Jukebox: LOL = Oh bugger, that means I;m old.
For the kids: Perkins Paste - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Paste)

Jock: Looks as if the existing cardboard (or whatever it is) roof lining was recovered in the carpetty stuff, yeah ? Do you know what the actual product is ? Is it like that marine carpet stuff ?

oh, and what does the light mount to ?

Gday

Yeah below the stuff that is there orinally is stuff a bit like MDF but not really its about 3mm thick. To be honest I cant really remember what the stuff is but there is a solid backing. I took it into the upholsterers and they must have just stripped the old stuff off and glued the new stuff on :p

I cant remeber the name of the stuff, but yeh it is a bit like marine carpet but nowhere near as dense and stiff.

If i get a chance on Monday ill ring up the blokes who did it and ask for you if you like? :)

When the lining is dropped out, all you have to do is unclip the wiring from the light and then there are two nuts that have to be undone on the actual light. There are two studs that come out from the light and these just bolt onto a backing plate i think that is on the topside of the lining.

I would drop the whole lining out again and take some pictures for you but it was a ***** to put in sorry :(

Hope that helps

[VladTepes]

I cant remeber the name of the stuff, but yeh it is a bit like marine carpet but nowhere near as dense and stiff.

If i get a chance on Monday ill ring up the blokes who did it and ask for you if you like? :)


Did you ever happen to find out ?

[Jock The Rock]

Did you ever happen to find out ?


Bugger :o

Completely forgot sorry :(

Ill put a reminder in my phone, and call them tomorrow.

[Michael2]

I had the SIII upholstered in marine carpet, which has worked well so far (about 20 years).

BrendanB had his Defender done with a sound deadening material and then upholstered over that. When you tap on the roof of his car (outside) it shounds like a "dull thud" compared to a "tinny ring" when you tap on a regular Defender (okay it's not a "tinny ring", but it is compared to the "dull thud"). But that wasn't cheap.

[Jock The Rock]

Rang up for you this morning.

Solo Auto Pile - Soft. Is the correct term. Solo being the brand. But the fella said its basically Un backed carpet

Hope this helps

[jrh1946]

There was a post some time ago ?on this forum from someone who had used FrontRunner. It's unbacked and is used as an interior lining in boats and is the stuff often used to line office partitions. I've seen it in boat shops.

Whitworths sell something called "Hull Liner" - - two colours - light grey and tan.

Rod

[VladTepes]

bump. For me :)

[Albert]

Thanks for the info guy's, I ripped mine out to fit a overhead consoul & was just about to start looking for marine carpet or similer to gue up there. Hope it will dull the echo from the road noise.:)

[brent_r84]

I totally agree. I took my front head liner out last week & wanted to take out the entire thing but withdrew. Then I saw an ex army defender & it looked fine without any lining or crappy plastics. So ths weekend its all coming out.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what type(car model) of visor I should use on the console im going to build?? I can reuse the mirror but the visors sit way to low.

[onemore]

Hello all,
While we are on the subject.
The lining on my '94 classic is falling in, I anyone knows where I can get it done on the Sunshine Coast, please.
Onemore

[C H T]

Hello all,
While we are on the subject.
The lining on my '94 classic is falling in, I anyone knows where I can get it done on the Sunshine Coast, please.
Onemore

Onemore

I had the hood-lining in my Discovery recovered by Gadenne Motor Trimming, Kayleigh Drive, Maroochydore ph 5443 7500. They are in the same complex as Protecta Autoglass

Christopher