more axle questions

[Olive Drab]

thanks to the guys who have offered me the salisbury diffs. BUT do i need a pair of them are the ratios the same or will salisbury rear and rover front be ok. I am seriously considering engineering something myself, after i have finished doing repair kits for door-tops and bulkheads. When I have these kits ready I'll post it up. they will be cheap. Lets keep more of them on the road.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The Series Land Rovers built between 1949 and up to (but not including) the Stage 1 all had 4.7:1 diffs and most of them had Rover front diffs including those with Salisbury rear.

The Salisbury rear diff from the SIII bolts exactly where your original Rover rear diff sits now using the same "U" bolts, shock absorbers and springs etc. There is no engineering needed.

Stage 1 SIII (V8 and Isuzu), County and many Defenders had Salisbury rear diffs but they were 3.54:1 and not compatible with standard Series diffs.

Hope this helps.

Diana

[Disco Steve]

the sals ratio will be the same as the rover.

[GSKeeper]

The one engineering task that will need to be done to fit a Salisbury diff into a S2A the length of the tailshaft.... it needs to be shorter for a Salisbury than for a Rover tailshaft. This also changes the angle of the tail shaft but only slightly

Cheers

PS Has anyone tried fitting a Salisbury diff in the front end???

[Sprint]

theyre as rare as rocking horse ****, but there are a few salisbury front diffs out there

[isuzurover]

The one engineering task that will need to be done to fit a Salisbury diff into a S2A the length of the tailshaft.... it needs to be shorter for a Salisbury than for a Rover tailshaft. This also changes the angle of the tail shaft but only slightly

Cheers

PS Has anyone tried fitting a Salisbury diff in the front end???

Just use the tailshaft from the donor vehicle (or the longer section/tube).

Front Salisburies were fitted to:
S111 One-ton models
Armored SIII models
Armored 110 models
FC101s

They are hard to find. Easier to make one yourself.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

... PS Has anyone tried fitting a Salisbury diff in the front end??? For a short period at the begining of the Series III 1 ton (not sold in Australia) they had Salisbury front ends with the swivel integral with the axle housing.
Suffix E Series IIB Forward Controls had Salisbury front diffs, but these were mostly the ones assembled in South Africa for the SA military.
Land Rover 101" forward controls all have Salisbury front ends with integral swivels on the axle housing.
The only other ones with Salisbury fronts are the Perenties.
It would be possible to build one up yourself using Stage 1 swivels and CV's than have someone like Hi-Tough Engineering to make up some special axle halfshafts for you. Once again the problem will be the shorter length of the prop shaft and the resulting angle of the spicer joints, making it only viable in the 6 cyl chassis vehicles.

Diana

P.S. Didn't know about the armoured ones having them. thanks IsuzuRover

[rovercare]

The only other ones with Salisbury fronts are the Perenties.

Pretty sure they came with a 4.7:1 4 pinion rover diff:D

[isuzurover]

For a short period at the begining of the Series III 1 ton (not sold in Australia) they had Salisbury front ends with the swivel integral with the axle housing.
Suffix E Series IIB Forward Controls had Salisbury front diffs, but these were mostly the ones assembled in South Africa for the SA military.
Land Rover 101" forward controls all have Salisbury front ends with integral swivels on the axle housing.
The only other ones with Salisbury fronts are the Perenties.
It would be possible to build one up yourself using Stage 1 swivels and CV's than have someone like Hi-Tough Engineering to make up some special axle halfshafts for you. Once again the problem will be the shorter length of the prop shaft and the resulting angle of the spicer joints, making it only viable in the 6 cyl chassis vehicles.

Diana

P.S. Didn't know about the armoured ones having them. thanks IsuzuRover

No worries.

I have never seen a perentie with a salisbury. The 6x6 models have a cast diff housing (instead of pressed/tube) which weighs a ton, but still runs a rover diff (albeit a specially made 4.7 reverse-cut crownwheel and pinion that can only be fitted to 3.54 centres).

I have seen one-ten front axles with bolt-on swivels.

You are right that we didn't get any one-tons - the only front sals's that made it here were in FC101s AFAIK.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

No worries.

I have never seen a perentie with a salisbury. The 6x6 models have a cast diff housing (instead of pressed/tube) which weighs a ton, but still runs a rover diff (albeit a specially made 4.7 reverse-cut crownwheel and pinion that can only be fitted to 3.54 centres).

I have seen one-ten front axles with bolt-on swivels.

You are right that we didn't get any one-tons - the only front sals's that made it here were in FC101s AFAIK.
You could well be correct about the Perenties, I have never seen one on a Perentie myself, however about 2 year ago there was a complete Salisbury front end on Ebay (vendor in South Australia) advertised as being off a Perentie.

Perhaps it was off a pre-production Perentie or as you say one of the armoured 110s etc. What do the SAS LRPVs have?

At one stage Allspares in Sydney, had a Salisbury front housing and there have been a number of private imports, most noticably one of the Series III 1 Ton prototypes that arrived in Sydney during 1974. I last saw that vehicle in Alice Springs in 1981 (sadly missing it's Scottorn Bushmaster powered trailer but not the drive coupling for the trailer).

Diana

[isuzurover]

You could well be correct about the Perenties, I have never seen one on a Perentie myself, however about 2 year ago there was a complete Salisbury front end on Ebay (vendor in South Australia) advertised as being off a Perentie.

Perhaps it was off a pre-production Perentie or as you say one of the armoured 110s etc. What do the SAS LRPVs have?

At one stage Allspares in Sydney, had a Salisbury front housing and there have been a number of private imports, most noticably one of the Series III 1 Ton prototypes that arrived in Sydney during 1974. I last saw that vehicle in Alice Springs in 1981 (sadly missing it's Scottorn Bushmaster powered trailer but not the drive coupling for the trailer).

Diana

Here is a 4x4 LRPV. It has a narrow version of the 6x6 (cast rover) axle:
http://www.remlr.com/picslrpv4x4/lrpv4x4_07.jpg

It looks a bit salisbury-like from the front - perhaps that is what you saw?

Here is a 6x6 - looks the same (definitely not a sals):
http://www.remlr.com/pics2/lrpv_afg8_big.jpg

http://www.remlr.com/pics2/lrpv_afg13_med.jpg
Compare how much closer to the ground a sals is

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I enjoyed the pics! :)

The Rover diffs and cast housings were a bit difficult to see, although I get the idea. :BigThumb:

Diana

[isuzurover]

I enjoyed the pics! :)

The Rover diffs and cast housings were a bit difficult to see, although I get the idea. :BigThumb:

Diana

Must need (new) glasses then :p;):wasntme: In the 1st pic I can see the cast housing and ribs radiating from the centre pan, and even the stencilled "grease filled hubs"

The REMLR regulars seem to be able to read ARNs from a tiny image of gray dots... !

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Must need (new) glasses then :p;):wasntme: In the 1st pic I can see the cast housing and ribs radiating from the centre pan, and even the stencilled "grease filled hubs"

The REMLR regulars seem to be able to read ARNs from a tiny image of gray dots... !

Or maybe they could buy me some bigger screens here at work!

I seem to remember using Photoshop to manipulate an image of a gun buggy in Vietnam to determine it's ARN, but yes, sometimes its attempting to read the profiles of the numbers rather than seeing the number itself.

Just on the pics, Afghanistan must be very hard on the troopers, they are so overworked all the features on their faces have disappeared! :wasntme:

On the ARN, in Afghanistan shouldn't they say Australian Expeditionary Forces or Australian Attack Forces? They are hardly in defence so far from Oz. :angel:

Diana

[isuzurover]

Or maybe they could buy me some bigger screens here at work!

I seem to remember using Photoshop to manipulate an image of a gun buggy in Vietnam to determine it's ARN, but yes, sometimes its attempting to read the profiles of the numbers rather than seeing the number itself.

Just on the pics, Afghanistan must be very hard on the troopers, they are so overworked all the features on their faces have disappeared! :wasntme:

On the ARN, in Afghanistan shouldn't they say Australian Expeditionary Forces or Australian Attack Forces? They are hardly in defence so far from Oz. :angel:

Diana

You really do need a bigger monitor... ;)...

The first pic is a new 4x4 LRPV "as supplied" (on the back of a truck being delivered in OZ) - it is the one with the defence force plate.

The remainder are "in-service" pics (may be iraq). They just have "army" plates by the looks...

And to get this somewhat back on topic:

Olive Drab - this is a salisbury in case you were unaware what they look like.
http://www.remlr.com/picslrpv4x4/lrpv4x4_18.jpg

[Olive Drab]

The company i did my apprenticeship with had the contract making the l/r diff housings. It was a foundry in mascot Sydney. W e cast the housing, welded in the axle tubes and welded on the mounting hardware. I think the whole project was about changing the track width of the vehicles. This was 1987-1988 so the finer finer details have been lost to memory in the fog of time. it was fun building something from scratch the only downside was we didnt get to complete it the housings were supplied to the army empty. Hope this info helps someone if they come across something of an odd size. There wer4e a couple of hundred of these diff housings made. The first batch was experimental and i think they were scrapped because we had major dimension changes early in the contract.