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ariddell
30th July 2008, 09:46 AM
Ok, getting an RWC is turning into a complete farce for my D2 with every place i take it to seeming to invent their own particular picky annoying reason for not just passing the thing.

It's now at garage number three who have come back with the most reasonable list of other requirements to pass it so far. No problems with the extractors, no issues with the slightly worn steat bolster apparently being likely to snag you on exit and cause the world to stop spinning, and a perfectly reasonable list of small items to fix.

The only issue that these have flagged up that neither of the other two garages who wanted to replace pretty much the whole car came up with is that apparently although the tyres are brand new, they are not technically legal on the D2 as they don't quite meet the required load rating (104 and the minimum is apparently 105). Argghhhhh!

Has anyone else had this issue with the BFG A/T 235/70/16s? They seem like a common enough fitment so it just seems that wherever i take the car to they are just finding some way of trying to extract more cash. I can't help wondering if i was to do a little more work on my Aussie accent as opposed to wandering in with the Scottish one i seem to be lumped with presently then perhaps they might not be trying it on quite so much.....

Now since i am rapidly running out of energy to take the car anywhere else i'm looking at options:

1. Trying to convince them not to be such *#**!#*'s and just to leave the damn tyres alone.

2. Swap the wheels/tyres off my L322 onto the Discovery for a couple of hours to get it through if they will fit/be legal. It runs 19" and not sure if they are the same stud pattern/offset etc so this may not be an option.

3. Buy the cheapest set of wheels/legal tyres i can from a Discovery/P38/etc if they will fit to get it through then sell them again afterwards.

What do you think, I gather from a search that P38 wheels will be fine but does anyone know if L322 ones would do the job enough to get it passed?

Thanks

A very frustrated Al.

harlie
30th July 2008, 12:52 PM
L322 uses different wheel nuts, the D2 wheel nuts will not fit into the L322 rim – not sure if the wheel will fit on D2 with the rangie wheel nuts.
Some tyre outlets will sell anything it's not hem that get caught... do you know anyone well enough to borrow a set of tyres, I know it’s a big ask

ariddell
30th July 2008, 01:33 PM
Thanks for the info.

Spoken to the garage and using the L322 wheels seems to be a non starter apparently anyway since they need to be on there for 30 days whilst the RWC is valid otherwise the garage who issues the RWC can be investigated. Blah blah blah.

Thinking buying a set of cheap old Discovery/RR wheels/tyres is going to be the best way forwards. Anyone in/around Melb got a set they would like to sell in good legal condition?

Thanks

eckolsim
30th July 2008, 02:02 PM
Seems like someones pulling your chain.

BTW, when did victoria start doing RWC for rego renewals?

ariddell
30th July 2008, 02:12 PM
Seems like someones pulling your chain.

BTW, when did victoria start doing RWC for rego renewals?

It's not - this is being done prior to VIV inspection and then new rego since i bought it as a repairable write-off.

I get the impression my chain is being yanked at evey opertunity too, however seem to be distinctly powerless to prevent it.

eckolsim
30th July 2008, 02:21 PM
I just did some research on the load rating of your tyres.

You may be in a spot of bother with the load rating. As they are underrated for your car you may have an insurance issue in the future should you blow a tyre. Your best bet may be to move on the rubber - sell them, and get something rated at 105 or better. you may even be able to trade them in at a BFG dealer. The 245/75/16 is a good size and should still be within the margins for re-registration.

As for this type of rego, I am surprised they are not also asking for a new windscreen.

sniegy
30th July 2008, 07:47 PM
I would be congratulating them for picking the tyres..;)
Yes tyres are a major thing & Isurance companies like to get out of things quickly...that was there get out clause.
These are not a common fitment to D2's for that matter.
People still fit them at there own risk probably because they are none the wiser.
The load index is wrong & from memory so is the speed rating.
I would see if someone on the list wants a set of BFG's for a D1 & sell them & buy a set of new tyres for the D2.
General Grabber AT2's in the size mentioned 245/75 will still meet legal requiremnets from memory, which are a near copy of BFG A/t's if that is what u are after.

Cheers & good luck.:D

Slunnie
30th July 2008, 09:16 PM
The Discoverys max load on the D2 is even determined by the load rating on the tyre, and I would assume the D1 is the same as it ran the same tyre. I wouldn't run a tyre that is under the load rating at all, as I tend to thing that even 105 is too low already.

The other thing, is that I also wouldn't run the 245/75-16 as you may find that this is outside of the VicRoads guidelines and get bounced again due to excessive diameter.

With the current RR rims, you can make them fit apparently. Use the rim with the wheel nuts that came with it. The wheelstud threads are the same, and likewise so is the PCD. Its only the centralising hub that is different in diameter. On Ebay, buy a set of the centralising rings to suit that rim to the D2. They are polymer and not expensive. NB I have not done this. P38 wheels are interchangable.

If things are not going your way, you may be able to borrow a set of tyres/rims from someone that runs 2 sets. Do the inspection and return the tyres/rims with a case of good beer.

Dauntless
30th July 2008, 09:24 PM
Would you be able to borrow or temporarily swap wheels and tyres, in order to fit the standard sized and rated tyres for rego?

Slunnie
30th July 2008, 09:33 PM
Just had a look at some websites, and the following may suit.

Pirelli ATR 235/70-16 105T
Yokohama Geolander AT/S 235/70-16 106H
Michelin Latitude Tour HP 106H
Goodyear silent armour 235/70-16 106T
Cooper ATR 235/75-16 106T
Cooper ST 235/75-16 106S

You can look up the rest.

p38arover
31st July 2008, 09:56 AM
I'd borrow a set of D2 wheels and tyres.

How can the inspection garage be held responsible if you change them back within 30 days?

Alternatively, go to secondhand tyre dealer and get some legal tyres fitted pro tem.

ariddell
31st July 2008, 09:58 PM
Thanks for the info guys, and thanks for putting up with my daft questions/incoherent rants in general!

I ended up buying a set of wheels & tyres pretty cheaply on ebay today as i think asking for someone to lend a full set of wheels is a bit of a big ask so wanted to go down other available routes before that as a last resort and seeking to impose on anyone.

Got 4x P38 rims with supposedly good tyres. Just picked them up now and typically for ebay 3 of the tyres are as described but one of them will still need replacing for a RWC.

Tyres on these are 255/65/16 Michelin XPCs so probably useful to have as a set of pure road tyres and keep the BFG A/Ts for offroad use only. Although since they are not up to the required load rating and are pretty much brand new i will likely sell them and buy some more appropriate A/Ts.