Correct Me If Im Wrong - Series II?

[Jock The Rock]

Gday

just checkin? this is a series II right or is it a IIa?

can anyone tell me if the numbers will tell me wot year?

(this is my dads btw)

and yes it does go been sitting for couple of years. took me all of sunday but some fresh fuel, serviced plug leads, bit of water, the brakes and clutch bled and a new battery. also had to put a capful of fuel down the carby and manually set the choke and away it went.

steerings bloody hard though, me bein used to a defender has made me soft :D

Thanks

Jock

(i think the number is 24303923)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/1052.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/1053.jpg
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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/1055.jpg
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this number is 525183
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/1057.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/1058.jpg

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Gday

just checkin? this is a series II right or is it a IIa?

can anyone tell me if the numbers will tell me wot year?

(this is my dads btw)

steerings bloody hard though, me bein used to a defender has made me soft :D

Thanks

Jock

(i think the number is 24303923)
Jock

Only in the series 1s, Series 2s and the later RRcs and Counties will a chassis number tell you the year model.

243 is a series 2a prefix so it is after October 1961.

Another clue is the levers for the windscreen vents, the series 2 had big knobs that you turned.

The fact that it still has 2 separate windscreen wiper motors tells us that it is before 1967.

The way you can find out a year range on an S2a is to find the chassis suffix letter - it should also be on the plate you showed us.

Hope this helps.

Diana

[Jock The Rock]

Jock

Only in the series 1s, Series 2s and the later RRcs and Counties will a chassis number tell you the year model.

243 is a series 2a prefix so it is after October 1961.

Another clue is the levers for the windscreen vents, the series 2 had big knobs that you turned.

The fact that it still has 2 separate windscreen wiper motors tells us that it is before 1967.

The way you can find out a year range on an S2a is to find the chassis suffix letter - it should also be on the plate you showed us.

Hope this helps.

Diana


thanks thats great :D um the windscreen vents arent a knob they are more like in a defender/series III but with like half circle tabs u push down.

that plate is a bit crusty and im not sure i could find another number or letter on it. but ill have look with a wire brush next time im out at the farm.

otherwise is there a place on the chassis that i will find it?

Thanks

[Blknight.aus]

Im thinking its a II but Im only going off of the breathers on the engine.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Jock

Yes I can see the SIIa vent regulators in the third image and that is why I made the comment.

I would be reluctant to use a wire brush on the ID plate - it is aluminium photo etched and will scratch easily.

First remove the plate with a screw driver and see more details by holding it in different angles and light. Then, if no success with a little careful use of paint stripper and wash off in a couple or three minutes, the next bet is to find the number on the chassis where you can use your wire brush.

Cheers
Diana

[JDNSW]

As Diana says, the 243 shows it is a RHD export 2a. The steering wheel and various other fittings show it is no later than suffix C.

The number 525183 is a casting number not an engine number or even a part number.

The oil bath air cleaner on the crankcase breather is part of the optional dust-proof engine kit (517055) up to engine suffix H. Note that engine and chassis suffix letters do not match.

John

[RobHay]

I am reading that there is a "B" following the number

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I am reading that there is a "B" following the numberIf Rob is correct the range of the B suffix is March 1963 to April 1966, a couple of months later for each of the dates with Australian built vehicles. (Probably means this vehicle too, as it is CKD.)

C Ya
Diana

[Jock The Rock]

Jock

Yes I can see the SIIa vent regulators in the third image and that is why I made the comment.

Cheers
Diana

oh righty didnt think they were seeable :)

thanks for all your help next time im out there ill clean that plate up a bit then and see wot i can see

Thanks

[dandlandyman]

I also noticed that it, at one time, had a capstan winch on it. Just maybe, some of the drive and engaging bits could be still on it.
It's also fitted with a Holden carby.

Edit: Oh, and a Holden alternator.

Dan.
69 2a 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2b FC pet6.

[ianyates]

243 Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Basic or Station wagon
Wheel base: 88in
Engine: petrol
Model years: 1962-1971
Destination: Completely knocked down (CKD), right-hand drive (RHD)
03923 Serial number
B Design: One significant design modification
Suffix used from March 1963 till April 1966

From this very useful website; Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands (http://www.clifton.nl/index.html'main.html)
Click on the LR VIN button down the lower left side.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

...From this very useful website; Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands (http://www.clifton.nl/index.html'main.html)
Click on the LR VIN button down the lower left side.
CalVIN is O.K but not accurate for the suffix letters of the forward control models. CalVIN merely assumes that the suffix letter applies to both bonneted control and forward control series Land Rovers.

I use Classic Land Rovers in Norway. Classic Land Rovers (http://www.classiclandrovers.no/?page=documents/vinlookup&PHPSESSID=cf5852a5d18f6e2ba8cc5814ca0b215b)

Diana

[Sleepy]

Gday

just checkin? this is a series II right or is it a IIa?



I reckon its a S2a

Here's a picture of my S2 inside - note the wind out vents and no horn button on the steering wheel (like a series 1)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/08/1033.jpg

Have a look at Treads S2 also, for comparison

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Some more threads on S2's

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2a/56500-help-identifying-some-s2-bits.html

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2a/57644-identity-series-ii.html

[UncleHo]

G'day Jock the Rock :)

Your Vehicle with that chassis No reads as a Series 2a,RH Drive CKD (Complete Knocked Down) Kit,which would have been shipped to Aust and assembled at Pressed Metal Corp. at Enfield in Sydney the actual number reads as 1961 short wheel base(88)Basic, and is the 03922 second, vehicle produced in that year. it is also Chassis Suffix "B", the engine number is on the flat section just ahead of the exhaust manifold front branch on the angled bit, and will be something like 241-----
similar style to the chasis No.

It would have had a 2.25 petrol motor fitted. and have been Positive Earth Electrics
Source: Master Parts book chassis reference.
cheers

[Lotz-A-Landies]

... Have a look at Treads S2 also, for comparison...
The post 1966 steering column makes it a bit more awkward, and some people like the S2 screw vent regulators over the S2a type and retrofitted them but it looks to be an S2.

Diana

[Sleepy]

The post 1966 steering column makes it a bit more awkward, and some people like the S2 screw vent regulators over the S2a type and retrotitted them but it looks to be an S2.

Diana

Good point Diana - I felt it may have had a later steering wheel/column fitted

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

That looks mighty like a series 2a up to suffix "D" steering column to me and with the correct wheel and horn button.

cheers

[Lotz-A-Landies]

G'day Folks :)

That looks mighty like a series 2a up to suffix "D" steering column to me and with the correct wheel and horn button.

cheers
Uncle Ho

We're talking about the second pic - that column shouldn't be with that dash and those vent regulators. Should they?

Diana :confused:

[JDNSW]

This whole thread should point out that it is impossible to identify the date of a Series 2/2a (or any Series 2-3) Landrover from details such as dash, steering wheel, vent controls etc. All of them, in fact almost all parts, are interchangeable, at least as complete assemblies, all the way from the first Series 2 to the last Series 3, and there would be very few Series 2/2a or, indeed Series 3) that have not had some foreign, usually, but not necessarily, later parts fitted.

For example, my own Series 2a has cab, doors, seats, instruments, alternator bracket and steering wheel from a Series 3, as is the distributor. Two of the wheels are from a much older 2a, as is the rear axle.

The only way of positively identifying the model is from the chassis number stamped on the chassis.

John

[Dinty]

G'day All, Well said John, I know of a 88" Land Rover that has had a bulkhead swap, the owner thought it was ex-mil, because of the nom/plate fitted, the only ex-mil bit was the b/head, cheers Dennis:wasntme:
PS It was a tad dissappointing for them to discover that it wasn't ex-mil:(

[Jock The Rock]

The only way of positively identifying the model is from the chassis number stamped on the chassis.

John

Where on the chassis do i find that number?

Thanks

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Where on the chassis do i find that number?

Thanks
For Australian assembled vehicles it is usually on the LHS rear spring shackle bracket. On U.K. built vehicles it is usually on the RHS front spring hanger.

Take your wire brush and a torch.

Diana

[Jock The Rock]

thanks when i get a chance ill go see if i can find it for you

[Jock The Rock]

went out today and took it for a drive found out the back axle is buggered. dad had a salisbury diff in the shed that a bloke gave him when he bought a wrecked series III for the chassis. so me and a mate are putting that in today and tomorrow. anyway have any tips on anything we need to know?

by the way just confirming that number on that plate is the vehicle number and it is 24305923B i didnt get a chance to look for the chassis number because i couldnt remember where u said i would find it. going out to finish off the new diff tomorrow so ill look then

Thanks