Got myself some twins

[Col.Coleman]

I guess I will be bugging you guys now as I picked up a pair of 107 utes today. Paid $750 for the pair.

Have only towed them to mums before coming home, so don't know the no.s yet but will post when I do.

Initially this is what I know. Both petrol. One ute tub, one trayback.

One is complete, fully assembled. This one is an ex-bushfire brigade ute from Fraser Island, that was taken out bush fo 40 years. Chassis has a little rust, not excactly sure how much. A few dings, apparently was really straight until the property owners grandson got his hands on it. Basically took it for parts and the fact it has a thomas 8000lb pto winch hanging off the front of it. It could be a restorer yet depending on the chassis.

The other is a '56 I'm told. Chassis is immaculate, brand new period tyres. The body work, while all dissasembled, has all been rolled flat and primed. Just like brand new. The motor is pulled apart, so will see what it needs. There are heaps of boxes of stuff and I have seen at least 2 instrument panels, the seats have been reupholstered, and everything is as clean as a whistle. It's just a big meccano set and with all the panels off and primed, just pick a colour.

There are also spare front guards and I think doors. Wheels as well.

I will be able to give a full run down on what is there and what I might want to move on soon.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/588.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/862.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/863.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/864.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/713.jpg

When I can I will show you all the bits off the good one.

Colonel Coleman

[ellard]

Hi there

Very nice find - they look fairly straight as well......

Looking forwards to the progressive rebuild.....etc......

All the best

Wayne

[Sleepy]

Nice one - Good score CC,

Is the bushfire one a 109"? I can see that tell tale bolt head behind the front wheel.

[Col.Coleman]

Mate it could well be. I didn't have much time as I looked at them just before lunch, then when I hired the trailer I only had 3 hours to shuffle the 2 and return it. Then drive 2 hours back home.

CC

[Mick-Kelly]

Very nice pair there. I wonder how far away numerically they are from the Numties Thomas.

[Col.Coleman]

Apparently progressivly from '56 with the new engine options for the diesel, they put 2" in the front of the chassis to make the 109'. In the series 1, the front guard then had a bolt behind the front wheel for mounting the guard.

When I can I will measure and get numbers.

CC

[weeds]

Basically took it for parts and the fact it has a thomas 8000lb pto winch hanging off the front of it. It could be a restorer yet depending on the chassis.



is the pto going on the 130?

[numpty]

Nice score there. Will be interested in anything you might wish to move on, and chances are we may have something you need.

[Col.Coleman]

is the pto going on the 130?

Don't know yet. I am hoping that one is a viable option to restore. If so it will stay there. If not it will probably shift to the other one. Could be a pain to try and fit it to the 130.

CC

[weeds]

yep finding a pto drive for the 130 would be the hard bit

[Col.Coleman]

Here are the bits I brought home with me.

Air cleaner, battery box and air cleaner holder, and looks like support panel for turret

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/855.jpg

Recovered seat bases and backs.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/856.jpg

Glass and perspex windows, seat box covers

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/857.jpg

Grill

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/858.jpg

Door tops and grill

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/859.jpg

Tappet cover, pushrods, head bolts, 2 dizzy's, choke cable, steering wheel, strips for windows, regulator(I think), rocker assembly, roll of door rubber, coil

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/736.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/860.jpg

More to come when I can. All the panels are the same as the door tops. Straight as and primed.

CC

[Shonky]

you lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky bugger. :(

I am bronze green with envy!

Congrats on the find mate - I hope you enjoy putting it all back together! :D

[Col.Coleman]

Forgot about these

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/853.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/854.jpg

Thanks shonky for making the situation crystal clear:D

Try to explain this to your swmbo though when a family visit turns into a full scale rescue mission that takes all day.
I might have a 2a as well yet.

CC

[Col.Coleman]

Hope you've got a BIGGGGGGGGG shed :D

No. I hear you do:twisted:

CC

[Shonky]

Thanks shonky for making the situation crystal clear:D

:angel:

[olmate]

Very Lucky indeed - Well done mate :D:D:D

[Aaron IIA]

Tappet cover, pushrods, head bolts, 2 dizzy's, choke cable, steering wheel, strips for windows, regulator(I think), rocker assembly, roll of door rubber, coil

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/736.jpg

CC

I did't see a regulator, but I did see a windscreen wiper motor.

Aaron

[Col.Coleman]

I did't see a regulator, but I did see a windscreen wiper motor.

Aaron

Thanks,
I did sort of work that out eventually, but can't edit my post.

By the way I bought the 2a as well:D:D:D

CC

[VladTepes]

Everyone is being oh so polite but in reality Col. they all hate you and think you are a bastard. :D

[Col.Coleman]

Thanks Vlad.

By the way, I don't know when I will get over to look at that series tub. I don't think it will be this weekend as I have ALOT of moving to do.

Might see you at Inc's though.

CC

[Shonky]

Everyone is being oh so polite but in reality Col. they all hate you and think you are a bastard. :D

Yup. :(

[Mick-Kelly]

Just from curiosity, did you get a chance to measure them yet? What are the details of the 2A ya lucky bugger. :p

[Col.Coleman]

Come on guys. You don't hate me that much do you?
Nm did you pick them all and the reference?
No measurements yet till sunday. All original rover motors though

[Shonky]

Leylands right?

[Shonky]

PS: I still hate you.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I know about the reason for the extra 2inches it's the relevance of the bolt that got me....

Our 107 also has a bolt behind the front wheel that holds the guard...but it's a lot closer to the wheel ;)
Yes you are both on the right track.

Both the 107 and the 109 have a bolt for the stay at the rear of the front wheel arch.

On the 107 the bolt is about 1" from the radius of the wheel arch
On the 109 the bolt is about 3" from the same radius.

We all know that the body to the rear on both the 107 and 109 are the same dimensions as between the 86 and 88s

A good score even if they are different wheel base.

If either of them have Grenville Motors ID tags, send me a PM with the chassis number and I may have some info for you.

Diana

[Col.Coleman]

Leylands right?

The first 2 are.

Can you guess the rest? (shouldn't be too hard if you have read my "How I became the Colonel" post.


PS: I still hate you.

Now Shonky, just for you I thought about cooking up a post so you can REALLY hate me:twisted:




A good score even if they are different wheel base.

If either of them have Grenville Motors ID tags, send me a PM with the chassis number and I may have some info for you.

Diana

Thanks Diana, I will be getting all the numbers on Sunday and will post them all to identify them as much as possible.

CC

[Shonky]

Hey CC...I see you've given the twins appropriate names :D:D


Leylands right?


The first 2 are.

Can you guess the rest? (shouldn't be too hard if you have read my "How I became the Colonel" post.

I was only referring to the first two, being the twins. ;)

I can't guess the others, although I will take a stab in the dark and say that "Les" is named after my childhood idol (:angel:) the Bush-Tucker Man who I believe was named Les Hiddens...?

I did read that thread but I have a mind like a sieve and besides, I don't want to cheat. :p



Now Shonky, just for you I thought about cooking up a post so you can REALLY hate me:twisted:

You know I love to hate you. Cook away!

PS you had better put up a project diary as you build, with lots of pics. Pics for my dartboard that is... :mad:

:lol2:

[Col.Coleman]

OK you asked for it.:p

I'll put some pics together and a story as well:twisted:

First 2 right.

Les. Correct.

Now follow the theme.

I still have a few names up my sleeve so it seems more farmyard bargains may be on the cards.

Wait until I introduce you to "XENA". Hubba Hubba.

swmbo drives "Betty".

then there are the bikes:cool:

CC

[Shonky]

Steve = Steve Irwin?

If this is correct then I hope your 130 isn't running SunRAYsias...

ahahahaha! ahahaha... aha.. ha... hmm... :angel:

[Shonky]

Can't get Harry... I even resorted to Google, which I know is cheating. :p

Hint?

[Col.Coleman]

If you were really rich, he would do everything for you:D

And yes, Steve does wear that style.

CC

[VladTepes]

If you were really rich, he would do everything for you:D
CC

A Land Rover mechanic then !

[Shonky]

Harry Potter?

[Shonky]

Prince Harry?

[Col.Coleman]

C'mon:(

Are you saying there is a big gap between The Leyland brothers and Bush Tucker Man you missed.;)

Who is blamed for the murders in old english mysteries:angel:

Think specimen placement was the order of the day.

CC

[Shonky]

Considering I was born in 1988, I technically missed most of it!

Your English mysteries clue has thrown me... Harry the Housewife?

[Col.Coleman]

Considering you are only a wipper snapper then, and you would be getting your nappy changed by the Nanny:D:D, who would be answering the door, Geeves?

CC

[Shonky]

Nope... I got nothin'. :(

Does anyone else know?

[Col.Coleman]

The man in question had a very popular television show that started in 1976, and ran through the '80's. He was from Western Australia, and has worked with mining companies to lessen their ecological impact since leaving his ABC show.

CC

[series1buff]

Harry Butler copped a lot of flak cos of his so called ' betrayal' of the green movement. He went over to the 'other side'. Has he been forgiven yet ?

Mike

[Mick-Kelly]

Australias favourite bearded naturalist. Ah i am a child of the early 70's I share the Colonels tv favourites :p

[The ho har's]

and here I was thinking you named it after ho har:p


yeh I picked Harry Butler as soon as I read your sig:D

Mrs ho har:angel:

[Col.Coleman]

So I hired a trailer and drove the what should have been 2 hours (:mad:damn sunday drivers) up to Yarraman, then out to the property to pick up the 2a. The plan was to drop it at mum's and pick up the 107' to get it out of the shed. BUT....... I was told it could stay there for a few weeks no problem. Cool, that gives me time to sort out some room.

I left the shorty on the trailer and dragged it down to Incisor's for a pit stop then on to home.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/921.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/922.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/923.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/925.jpg

This is the 107' in mums' shed.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/32.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/471.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/472.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/473.jpg

Question. Could this be an original trayback?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/469.jpg

So after getting home and removing the 2a, I decide to head back up and get the 109' to pick it over then take it back up when I get the 107'. We left at 1930 and got up there at 2245, loaded up and returned home at 0030.

This morning I started pulling all the spare stuff out of the back of the tub and anything else I could find.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/474.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/475.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/476.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/477.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/478.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/479.jpg

Now under the seat I found this. Is it original?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/484.jpg

I'm off to look for numbers now.

CC

[chazza]

Nice tool kit Col!

If you check the driver's handbook I think there is a drawing of the tool kit; I am not near my book at the moment so I can't be of much help, but it looks original to me,

Cheers Charlie

[Col.Coleman]

Thanks Mate,
The adjustable wrench and a wheel brace I found as well go by the name of King Dick:eek: They were so lovable with their names of things back then.

Have the 2a Numbers
24316499G

243
MODEL: Land Rover Series IIa
BODY TYPE: Basic or Station Wagon
WHEEL BASE: 88in
ENGINE: Petrol (2.25l)
YEARS: 62-71
DESIGNATION: RHD CKD(export)


16499
Serial Number

Suffix G
7th Revision of this Model.
6 design updates
Suffix used 69-71

Also going by the under diff strenghtening and leaf packs a +35 model as well.

The 109' was assembled by PMC Body No. 478 Seriel 109/478
It was sold from ANNAND & THOMPSON MOTORS, NEWSTEAD BRISBANE.
I found 2 brass plates stating this. One under the hood with recommended lubricants and the other tacked to the dash.

It seems it started life the dark green all over and then was resprayed red exterior with a white roof and white interior and yellow under the hood and engine bay.

That is all I know so far until I attack the rear spring hanger to remove 50+ years of crud.

CC

[JDNSW]

........

........

Question. Could this be an original trayback?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/469.jpg

......

CC

I doubt it very much. Although fairly well built, it does not have the hallmarks of a 1950s professional build. I would have expected to see, for example, steel angles protecting the corners, and in the fifties the corners of the cross beams would have been rounded at the very least, and probably also tapered from the chassis out. The technique of just running the rope rail through holes in these cross beams is the sort of thing I would expect from an amateur, not a professional. My guess is it is a replacement for a damaged original tub, probably fitted in the sixties or even seventies. Just my opinion though.

John

[Shonky]

Looking nice Col. :D

Keep them pickatures rollin boss.

[Col.Coleman]

In addition to those above.

The IIa

Chassis: 24316499G
Engine: 151105922
Gearbox: 25400093A
F/Diff: 2418 2738B
R/Diff: 2434 4152B


The 109 series 1

123601342

1 Type: Land Rover

23 Model: Series 1
Body Type: Basic
Wheel Base: 109in
Engine: Petrol 2l
Designation: RHD CKD (export)

6 1956

01342 serial number

also

Chassis: 123601342
Engine: 170616471
Gearbox: 111805186
F/Diff: 270606720
R/Diff: Still working on it.

Original Colour: Bronze Green
Last registered 2/1980
CC

[chazza]

I doubt it very much. Although fairly well built, it does not have the hallmarks of a 1950s professional build. I would have expected to see, for example, steel angles protecting the corners, and in the fifties the corners of the cross beams would have been rounded at the very least, and probably also tapered from the chassis out. The technique of just running the rope rail through holes in these cross beams is the sort of thing I would expect from an amateur, not a professional. My guess is it is a replacement for a damaged original tub, probably fitted in the sixties or even seventies. Just my opinion though.

John

I agree, although it is possible that it was made in the 1950's by an amateur; however; it is nice to see something different and if was mine I would keep the tray on the machine as an example of - well as an example of a converted Series 1.

The tray reminds me of my friend's Model T truck, which had a smilar one constructed and made by himself in 1952, and rebuilt by both of us in 1999; in time for the Shannons 2000 bi-centennial rally in Canberra? The crowds were quite taken with such an obviously home-converted truck that had driven all the way from W.A. :)

[Col.Coleman]

Keep your eyes peeled guys, as I reckon I will have both the 109 and the 88 up and running and on the road in the next couple of months.

The 2a is pretty straight forward, just some chassis work, and check for rego.

The 109, although looking a bit sad, has cleaned up OK, has a busted rear spring, some problem with the front left wheel (bent), a crap radiator and needs some panel work. Also the front left cab outrigger is totally gone. But if I can find an outrigger and weld it on, I can then steal the parts I need off the other one to get this thing running and club rego it. Gives me something to drive while I do the other one.

Look out for a BBQ/spanner day/beer session on a sunday in the near future:D

CC

[JDNSW]

I agree, although it is possible that it was made in the 1950's by an amateur; however; it is nice to see something different and if was mine I would keep the tray on the machine as an example of - well as an example of a converted Series 1.

I think I would too if it is in as good a shape as it looks from the photos.

The tray reminds me of my friend's Model T truck, which had a smilar one constructed and made by himself in 1952, and rebuilt by both of us in 1999; in time for the Shannons 2000 bi-centennial rally in Canberra? The crowds were quite taken with such an obviously home-converted truck that had driven all the way from W.A. :)

Interesting - that is the sort of vehicle I first learnt to drive in (among others)

John

[Col.Coleman]

Now this one has me scratching my head.

Went up to Mum's today and picked up the 107. Got it home and started getting all the numbers.

What the bloody hell is it?

Chassis: 277600179
Engine: 170600838
Gearbox: 170602041
F/Diff: 270600829
R/Diff: 270601145

Now if the chassis started with a 1 it would be all sweet, but it doesn't:mad:
277 is series 11a 109. But it measures 107' and the front is all series 1.

The 9 on the end stands for extensively modified according to calvin.

Looking at the chassis there are vertical weld marks on both sides in a couple of places, so a chop job might have been done.

Will post pics when I can.

CC

[alexmassey]

On Calvin.

277600179 comes up as

Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Basic
Wheel base: 109in
Engine: diesel
Model years: 1962-1971
Destination: Export, right-hand drive (RHD)

[Col.Coleman]

On Calvin.

277600179 comes up as

Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Basic
Wheel base: 109in
Engine: diesel
Model years: 1962-1971
Destination: Export, right-hand drive (RHD)

Yep ran that on both calvin and classic and got the same. You left out the extensive mod code 9. A 11a should have a letter suffix.

Here's some pix.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/256.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/257.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/258.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/259.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/260.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/261.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/262.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/263.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/264.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/265.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/266.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/267.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/268.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/269.jpg

Now pick what you can out of that.

Now boys and girls. What are the main differences between a 11a chassis and a series 1? Keeping in mind this wheelbase IS 107. Measured. I want to know if I have a modified 11a chassis, or a rear-cut series 1. Or a repaired one that some dope stamped the wrong number on.

In saying this the numbers are a large size stamp, similar to the ones on my stage 1, not the small size like the other 109 or the 11a shorty. Don't know if there is any difference or time line when the stamp number size changed.

CC

[JDNSW]

Unless I am mistaken, the key difference between the S1 and S2 lwb chassis is that the S1 has the rear springs under the chassis, same as at the front, where the the S2/3 has them on short outriggers. Now I notice that has a full floating axle, which were very rare on S1s, so I wonder if it has an S2 axle fitted, with the outriggers including the number added to the chassis - I tried to see it in your photos, but can't. (The S2/3 track is about two inches wider, and a swb rear axle would have the springs under the chassis and could have been fitted without changing the spring hangers - which would not explain the number)

John

[Col.Coleman]

This is what is confusing as the spring hangers are directly under the chassis ala series 1. The number is stamped where it should be.
I have listed the axle numbers in a previous post as well if that helps to figure out what thay are.

When you run the numbers through calvin with a 1 prefix, not the 2 you get excactly what it should be.
77 107
6 late service 1955
RHD CKD

I think either some boofhead restamped some numbers and got it stuffed, OR it is a specially modified chassis built later to series 1 specs to replace the original one for some reason(If they ever did that) hence the extensive modifaction code 9 suffix.

Don't you love old landies and trying to find out what they are and what they should be:D

CC

[alexmassey]

After looking into it.

Your 107 is a

1956 107" CKD RHD Export
277600179

2= 1956
7= Series 1 Petrol
7= 107" CKD
6= RHD Export

00179 = Serial number

And yes that extra Zero is supposed to be there.

[Col.Coleman]

Where did this info come from?

Not doubting or questioning, just happy to know it is what it should be:)
Thank-you

CC

[Col.Coleman]

Scratch that.

Just ran numbers through calvin and Classic again.

Calvin spits out 11a, BUT

Classic says series 1 107 petrol rhd ckd export 1956 just like above

WOO HOO:D

So they are still twins, just fraternal ones:p

Thanks for your help and making me persevere Alex.

I might have been parting it out, but not now:D

CC

[alexmassey]

My info came from the Original Series One by James Taylor.

No Problems

[UncleHo]

G'day Col Colman :)

The chassis No on the 107 would be as Alex posted, and correct, the rear trayback would be the original built by Athol Hedges in Brisbane for Annand & Thompson, as they did all A&T's traywork, A & T imported their vehicles directly from UK as well as drawing some from Aust CKD production later, there should be a flat plate that fits on that lower front right guard where the bright yellow paint is, that had a stencil "Land-Rover" that was only fitted by A & T, :) also that bright yellow would indicate that it was ex Dept Civil Avaition, over painted on the Bronze Green,but remaining green inside, then the plate was attached, it probably served it's time in Brisbane Airport, or regional(Toowoomba) then sold/gifted on to Bush Fire Brigade as is/was often the case, the motor with the head off looks like a 2 litre Siamese bore jobbie, and not the later spread bore 2 litre, but the Series 1 gurus will know that, all series 1 chassis have the curved firewall outrigger, where the later 2/2a/3 had a straight outrigger, all chassis parts are available as replacement rust repair parts ex UK,and some 2/2a/3 chassis rust repair parts are available from the Mob in Melbourne, I hope that is of some help to you.
BTW I have Series 1 86/88 and 107/109 master parts catalogue here at home;) if you need IDing stuff, and that is a VERY nice late suffix "G" SWB 2a, got master parts books for that too :) The OKB rego plate dates at about 1966/7


cheers

[Col.Coleman]

Mucked around with the 109 and the 2a today. Supposed to be tidying up:o

My brother in law came over as his mitsi was being serviced down the road, and to check out all the stuff he had heard I brought home. So after a cup of coffee and a bit of show and tell I thought, hey why not try and start them.

So off down the road we went with a few jerry cans and got some nice fresh premium fuel. Came back, dumped some fresh stuff in the tanks, no leaks:cool:. Tipped a bit down the carby, hooked up a fresh battery and whammo. Both of them fired into life straight away. The 109 will only idle. But it goes. After some more messing about with the 2a, we got the clutch and brakes going again, and now she drives.:D

Harry is a bit grumbly though so a fluid investigation is in order. He also has a leaking water pump, but that is to be expected.

So that is 4 out of 5 landies running, 3 driveable, 2 registered, and 1 project.

Happy so far:D

CC

[Sleepy]

Nice one - Good score CC,

Is the bushfire one a 109"? I can see that tell tale bolt head behind the front wheel.


Great stuff Colonel C.,:D You've got some lovely vehicles there.


So it is a 109". OMG.... I am officially a land rover nerd!:rolleyes:

[Col.Coleman]

Gosh...almost identical to us....

I'm NOT growing a beard:p

But seriously, when are you free to come look?

Are you kicking yourself now you didn't investigate that sign earlier?

Oh yeah, what will be left on Thomas' chassis that is useable after the swap, or are you just chopping the rear crossmember off? Looking for a few chassis bits:D

CC

[Dinty]

G'day All, Getting back on track here, the tool kit you posted is the real deal, King Dick are English spanners, I have a full Land Rover kit for a Series 3 and it is identical to yours, the smaller box spanner and tommy bar (very left of the set) are usually missing from the sets because most vehicles were sold with H/top, the only difference between yours and the S3 set is the tool roll, mines a vinyl?/plastic affair, and yes your cahssis is very much a Series 1 but now you know that anyway, cheers Dennis:angel: