Amberley Air Show....

[Blknight.aus]

Before people start putting 3+3 together...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/462.jpg

thats it. Thats All I know... and that arrived in the mail today.

[Bigbjorn]

Do you mean that Group Captain Lineshoot did not come down to the workshop to give you a personal briefing? Would never happen in a union shop.

[dobbo]

So this is probably the reason Newcastle has been buzzed all of last week by low flying formations of F18 and biplanes?

Awesome to watch, and hear and feel.

[Tank]

The wife and I went to the Airshow at Richmond NSW back in the early 80's or late 70's, it was the most amazing event I've ever attended, F111 doing about 500mph 50 ft off the runway and then hitting the afterburners at the end of the runway and disappearing straight up. I will never forget it, the noise of the engines was travelling about 30 or 40 metres behind the aircraft as it went past it was silent, then the noise hit like a cricket bat to the side of the head, scared the crap out of everyone.
The crowd was estimated to be between 250,000 and 500,000, there were 250K inside the Base and looked to be that many outside.
The show ended about 5pm and we didn't get out of the gate till about 10pm that night, and we were in the first half of the crowd leaving, took another three hours to get to Blacktown, was well worth it though, Regards Frank.

[Blknight.aus]

picture all of that 12-15 times aday for the last few weeks....

If I NEVER see another dump and burn. vertical ascent, flyby or plane in the sky it will be too soon,

that said, having seen the planned attendance list it should be a top show.

I sneeked onto the parking lot stuff today..

If your coming BE EARLY, ATM I cant reveal why (If I can later I will) but I strongly suggest that if you can that you should park somewhere near Ipswich and then catch public transport to the main station and get the shuttle bus in.

I will update with what I can IF i can so if your coming youve got the good oil.

the usual stuff applies bring plenty of water to drink as it gets hot and windy, we're already getting 28+ degrees with a dry wind. Hat sunnies and sunscreen.
I havent managed to find the catering plan yet.

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

Yup! the Military Jeep club of Qld got an invite to attend, and the rules were vehicles in on Thursday, leave until Sunday PM :eek:

So, you know why there will be very few if any military vehicles there, it would require vehicle to show/attend vehicle. vehicle to go home in, return next day, and go all through it again, and there is some rare and valuable stuff on some of those vehicles, some parts have taken years to find, so owners won't leave them unattended.

cheers

[DiscoStew]

I'm going to see if my nephew's are up for the day out. Do you know if there is a caravan park within walking distance?

[303gunner]

If I NEVER see another dump and burn. vertical ascent, flyby or plane in the sky it will be too soon,

Some pics JUST for Dave!

PS Tank: That display at Richmond was a USAAF F15A, flypast then vertical to 20,000ft.

[Blknight.aus]

I'm going to see if my nephew's are up for the day out. Do you know if there is a caravan park within walking distance?

Not that Im aware of... google it for something in ipswich

[Killer]

I'm going to see if my nephew's are up for the day out. Do you know if there is a caravan park within walking distance?

Willowbank Caravan park would be the closest, it would be a longish sort of a walk, probably 4-5 km.

Cheers, Mick.

[Tank]

Some pics JUST for Dave!

PS Tank: That display at Richmond was a USAAF F15A, flypast then vertical to 20,000ft.
303, the incident I'm talking about was definitely an F111, had a sit in the cockpit as well , it was based at the RAAF base near Newcastle. One of the low level flybys the pilot did a roll to the left and then to the right, very impressive so close to the ground. After the F111 did the low flyby and vertical the show commentator said that the F111 pilot would on the groundback at his base in the time it would take him to get down from the tower.
I am talking about the first airshow at Richmond in many years, they did have many more after that one, I know as I moved to that area the next year and never went to another one, the traffic chaos turned me off, Regards Frank.
P.S. I have some pics somewhere I'll see if I can find them , scan and post.

[ramblingboy42]

just to let anyone know, Willowbank Caravan Pk is completely booked out, some people in the area allow camping and parking on their properties, its the same for every race w/e at Qld Raceway and also every drag meet at Willowbank drag strip. local knowledge helps. some camp at Aratula and drive in and park locally. you wil find that on the days the Ipswich Mwy will be a horror, my advice....go early ... sit tight.....leave late.

[DiscoStew]

just to let anyone know, Willowbank Caravan Pk is completely booked out, some people in the area allow camping and parking on their properties, its the same for every race w/e at Qld Raceway and also every drag meet at Willowbank drag strip. local knowledge helps. some camp at Aratula and drive in and park locally. you wil find that on the days the Ipswich Mwy will be a horror, my advice....go early ... sit tight.....leave late.


Looks like the train from Brisbane City will be the way to go then. That might be enough to stop the nephews, the lazy buggers.

[Outlaw]

must admit i went along last show on the sunday... left about 4ish to head home and don't remember any traffic as such :angel: maybe i'll be lucky again ;)

[Killer]

Looks like the train from Brisbane City will be the way to go then. That might be enough to stop the nephews, the lazy buggers.

There should be a free shuttle bus from Ipswich station, (there was last time). It takes you right into the Base.

Cheers, Mick.

[awabbit6]

I was fortunate enough to go out to Amberley today with a group of students from school. We were invited out for a "sneak-peek" in preparation for the air show.

There were probably only 50-60 students an teachers there in total, and the RAAF put on an excellent display for a small group (they expected a better turn-out). We were given very thorough tours of a C-17, F-111, Bushmaster and the brand new fire tenders. They have some awesome machines to play with. We were even given Bushmaster rides which were very popular. This along with a number of presentations including a C-17 flight display (the capabilities of these jets are incredible) made for a fantastic day.

Dave was playing tour-guide for the morning, so I found time for a bit of a cath-up chat. And to think that both he and I were being paid to be there and admire the machinery!

If our morning is anything to go by, the air show will be brilliant!

[dobbo]

We had perfect timing coming off Stockton Beach this afternoon, my boys and myself got to see a bit of formation flying plus one or two chafes being discharged. We made the decision to leave the Top blokes in their Toyo's patting each others bums in a joint ARB, TJM and Opposite Lock level of smugness at the air pump queue at Lavis Lane. We aired up the slow way by use of a compressor at the airport fence, directly behind the runway. Two little boys on the roof rack of a Landie watching and waving at the F18's flying over and landing. When we left a little over an hour later the last of the Toyo drivers was still getting a pat on the bum from another top bloke. No doubt his kids were a tad restless in the back seat.

[Blknight.aus]

And to think that both he and I were being paid to be there and admire the machinery!




one of the teachers there had some very nice suspension that needed a detailed Mk 1 technical inspection and some of the RAAF talent that was on show was definately worth the lookover, some of the boys in my group shared the same opinion and we'rent backwards in coming forwards about it.

[awabbit6]

one of the teachers there had some very nice suspension that needed a detailed Mk 1 technical inspection and some of the RAAF talent that was on show was definately worth the lookover, some of the boys in my group shared the same opinion and we'rent backwards in coming forwards about it.

I was on my best behaviour. I don't know what you are talking about. :angel:

[Blknight.aus]

got something to show you...

Im just parsing it atm so that it doesnt have any info in it that it shouldnt or that the info isnt info that I cant glean from elsewhere (pics)

There will be 3 posts

1. the outline of whats happening with the attachments for vehicular arrivals and pedestrian access from the carparks

2. the timetable for the shuttle bus and the attachments for pedestrian movement and the shuttle bus plan from ispwich

3. the departure plan... (can you say chaos?)


read it well and take heed. I STRONGLY urge you to seriously consider the public transport option if you can make it work or if your not able to bring a 4x4... trust me here Im going to write it again just to make sure you cant mis-interpret it....

IF you CAN NOT take the PUBLIC TRANSPORT option BRING your 4X4. preferably the one with the cranking aircon.

if you have kids make sure you have plenty of things to do in the car for them.

if we get a drop of rain in the 2 days prior to it happening then the 2 paddock/carparks become slush pans held together by wet grass. Theres posts up on here about how embarrasing that can be if your not ready for it.

IT will also be HOT unless its pouring rain, if its been raining the humidity will be about 300%

[Blknight.aus]

1. The Australian Defence Forces (ADF) will be conducting an Air Show at the Royal Australian Air Force Base (RAAF) Amberley QLD on the weekend of 4-5 October 2008. The gates will open to the public at 0800 and close at 1700, with the car parks opening at 0730 each day. There will be a 5.0 hour flying show each day commencing at 1030 and ending at 1530, as well as static displays which will be open to the public from 0800 until 1700 on each day.
2. Planning is for 25-30,000 visitors on each day including: up to 13,100 cars, 20 charter coaches and twenty four shuttle buses from Ipswich Railway station (Bell Street) to the base. Light aircraft are also anticipated to arrive at the event but is outside the scope of this plan.
Base Parking Areas
3. There are planned to be eight Air Show Car Parks (see Appendix A) designated for base visitors, some of which will be colour coded for security and emergency purposes. The Car Parks are:
a. A - (Black 1) on the ‘Airfield’ to South of Boeing hangar;
b. H - (Green 2) Handicapped and Disabled parking to east of the Boeing Hangar;
c. B - (Yellow 3) the ‘Farmer’s Paddock’ south of the old married quarters;
d. C1 - (Red 4) behind the Amberley school;
e. C2 - (Yellow 5) behind the 1 Air Transportable Health Squadron;
f. C3 – (White 6) Slashed area behind the school;
g. V - VIP and contractor parking on old parade ground;
h. O2 - (Blue 7) overflow parking to south west of North Perimeter Road; and
i. O1 - (Green 8) overflow parking to north west of North Perimeter Road
Accessing Car Parking (Normal conditions)
4. Car Parks A, B and H will normally be accessed via Cunningham Highway and Southern Amberley Road and are expected to service the majority of visitors from Brisbane, Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast and Warwick area. Southern Amberley Road will be one way traffic from 0630 (ie two lanes of inbound traffic to Amberley only). There will be six ‘feed offs’ from Southern Amberley Road into Car Parks A, B and H.
5. Car Parks C and O will normally be accessed via Walloon or Rosewood and are expected to service people from Toowoomba, the Brisbane Valley and some Brisbane visitors. These roads will remain two-way traffic and will provide an early departure route for spectators in car parks A, B and C. Operational traffic and emergency traffic will be routed via the Northern Perimeter Road and exit via the ‘back gate’ and Old Toowoomba Road.
6. There will be no parking available for workers within the ‘Spectator Area’ of the air show. This will affect approximately 100 workers from TAE and Boeing who may be working on those days. Alternative parking for those workers will be available between buildings 280 and 279, 76 and 71; 278 and 428. The grassed area opposite Building 381 may also be used.
Car Parking (Overflow conditions)
7. Parking for 12,100 cars will be available in the primary car parks A, B, C1, C2, C3, H and V. However it is possible that overflow parking will be needed. This parking is provided at car parks O1 and O2 off John Ward Way. Since the traffic flow rates into the car parks is the limiting factor for spectators travelling by car, it is important that three lanes of traffic be maintained for as long as possible, including during the filling of the overflow car parks. The process for the utilisation is detailed in paragraphs 25-31.
8. Shuttle buses. CityTrans (Brisbane Buses) have been contracted to shuttle QR spectators from Ipswich Station (Bell Street) to the air show at Amberley. The shuttle bus route will be via Old Toowoomba Road, Northern Perimeter Road, Iroquois Avenue, Canberra Avenue, thence via the large round about, Phantom Drive to the designated bus unload area opposite the old Amberley primary school. They will return to Ipswich via F-111 Drive and the Northern Perimeter Road, as depicted in Appendix B. Buses will park on the right hand side of Phantom Drive and water barriers will section off the road to separate pedestrians from the bus lane. One way traffic will apply in the bus zone and the roundabout will be used in counter clockwise directions. Base traffic will not be permitted though the large round about. There will be 12 buses in the AM from Ipswich Station (Bell Street) commencing at 0800 and 24 buses departing Amberley after the flying component of the air show is completed at 1530. Bus departures will be timed to meet the QR trains at approximately 30 minute intervals. Allowance has been made for up to 6000 passengers to be transported to and from Amberley on each day of the show, which is consistent with the anticipated passenger arrivals by rail. An approximate schedule for the bus departures is at Appendix C.
Coaches and Taxis
9. Coaches from the Cunningham Highway shall be directed up the Ipswich Rosewood Road (which shall remain as two way traffic) to enter Rosewood Road for parking. Coaches from the Warrego Highway via Walloon shall to be directed to enter Rosewood Road from the Walloon direction. Chartered coaches are to be parked in the area on the South Eastern end of Rosewood Road as shown in Appendix A. Coaches should be parked in ‘herringbone’ fashion; facing out to the road to enable them to move off without having to reverse into the pedestrian outflow at the end of the Air Show.
10. Taxis. Some taxis are to be expected but their utilisation is to be discouraged. All taxis are to be directed via Rosewood Road as per charter coaches. Taxis from the Cunningham Highway are to be directed up the Ipswich Rosewood Road to enter Rosewood Road and proceed to the passenger drop off point. (Note Cunningham Highway will be tidal flow so return via this route will not be possible). Taxis from the Warrego Highway via Walloon are to be directed to enter Rosewood Road from the Walloon direction to the passenger drop off point. Taxi passengers are to be dropped off at the Amberley Primary School, before being directed to do a U-Turn and exit the area via Rosewood Road and Walloon. Taxi Pick up after the Air Show is not recommended, however a taxi pick up point will be established at the Amberley Primary School. (See Appendix A).
11. It is anticipated that Cunningham Highway will carry the bulk of the Air Show traffic. The Traffic Management Plan requires Cunningham Highway be converted to one-way traffic from Ripley / Flinders View Overpass through to the Peaks Crossing exit. Cunningham Highway will be closed from 0530 to 0630 each day to convert it to one-way traffic, then from 1330 to 1430 to reverse the traffic flow, then from 2100 to 2200 to reopen it to two way traffic. The ‘tidal flow’ is expected to be in force towards Amberley from 0630 until 1330 then from Amberley from 1430 until 2100.
Cunningham Highway
12. Ripley / Flinders View Overpass. From 0630 traffic shall flow inbound along the Ipswich bypass until the Ripley / Flinders View Overpass at which the traffic shall cross to two inbound lanes of tidal flow inbound to Amberley. This one way ‘tidal flow’ will require diversion of the Warwick to Brisbane traffic on the Cunningham Highway via Peaks Crossing and prevent all traffic travelling east bound on the Cunningham Highway from the Peaks Crossing exit on Cunningham Highway through to the Ripley / Flinders View Overpass.
13. Southern Amberley Road traffic islands. At the Southern Amberley Road traffic islands the left and right hand lanes inbound turn right into Southern Amberley Road which shall be one way (two lanes) ‘tidal flow’ inbound to Amberley in from 0630 until 1330. The exception is coach and taxi traffic which shall be directed to continue straight ahead up the Ipswich-Rosewood Road to meet with the Walloon inbound traffic at the traffic islands at Rosewood Road. Base workers who inadvertently attempt to get to the base along Cunningham Highway will also be directed down Ipswich-Rosewood Road, into Haighslea Amberley Road to enter the base via the ‘Contractors Gate’ on John Ward Way (0530-2000).
14. Car Park B entry. Off Southern Amberley Road the left lane shall split in two/three and move into Car Park B (‘farmer’s paddock’). The wire fence at the off ramp shall be removed temporarily and the roadway enhanced. A second primary lane of traffic shall transit via the 90 degree turn into the paddock. The invert into the paddock proper shall be repaired to permit two lanes of traffic to cross the gully; and the wire fences shall be temporarily removed to permit vehicle entry to the top of car park C. When needed, a third lane will be activated via Lady Scherger Crescent. Use of this access will require the crossing of Southern Amberley Road by pedestrian traffic which shall be controlled. See Appendix I.
15. Car Park A entry. The right lane on Southern Amberley Road shall exit at three pick off points onto the Airfield Car Park A.
Warrego Highway and Walloon
16. Walloon Road. Walloon Road shall be two way traffic throughout the air show to permit early exiting traffic and minimise disruption to regional traffic. Air show traffic from Walloon shall turn left off Haigslea-Amberley Road or Ipswich-Rosewood Road into the left lane of Rosewood Road for parking behind Amberley primary school in car park C.
Handicapped and Disabled
17. Vehicles (including light buses up to 14 seater Coaster style – but excluding Coaches) with disabled stickers (or those with Airshow permits to park in the disabled car parks) are to be directed to the right hand lane and proceed through car park A into the designated Handicapped car park H. The web site shall direct disabled persons to travel to the Air Show via Cunningham Highway. Some spaces in Car Park C2 are to be kept available for disabled who miss this direction.
Southern Amberley Road Restrictions.
18. No traffic (except operational traffic, emergency traffic and the odd car that needs to outflow early) shall be permitted on the Southern Amberley Road between Rosewood Road and Lady Scherger Crescent.
Overflow Parking and Traffic changes
19. Vehicles needing to depart early from Car Parks A and B shall be directed up Southern Amberley Road then up Rosewood to the Warrego Highway. Vehicles needing to depart early from Car Park C shall be directed up to the end of Rosewood Road then up Rosewood Road to the Warrego Highway. There will be a requirement for traffic control to permit this traffic to cross the inbound flow to Car Parks C and O. There should be no requirement for cars in the overflow car park to depart early, but in this event they will be diverted along the Northern Perimeter Road to exit via the ‘Back Gate’. The plan is depicted in Appendix J.
Special Access passes (Rear gate and Contractor’s gate).
20. Overview. In general the outflow of traffic from Amberley after the show shall be the reverse of the inflow of traffic and is shown at Appendix F. Considerable traffic gridlock is expected as the outflow capacity from the car parks will be limited to approximately 2700 cars per hour (3 x 900) hence the departure time is expected to be 3.5 hours if 10,000 cars are present and up to 4 hours if capacity of 16,100 cars is reached. This will be complicated by nightfall, driver frustration and higher probability of accidents.
Reversal of traffic flow
21. Closure of the Cunningham Highway shall start at 1330 and traffic reversal commence at 1430. Walloon and Rosewood Roads shall remain as two way traffic throughout the Airshow. Two lanes should be maintained along Cunningham Highway until the Ipswich bypass forms into a dual carriageway near the Ripley turn off.
22. Outflow from individual car parks. Each car park exit shall be manned by at least two SES traffic wardens and the assigned RAAF pedestrian wardens to control outflow and pedestrian safety. No single car park should have full right of exit over others, rather the traffic flow controlled to ensure a fair exit from all car parks.

24. Entry Points. There shall be three pedestrian entry points from the eight Car Parks as shown in Appendix G.
a. Pedestrian Entry Point 1 - Base Cinema;
b. Pedestrian Entry Point 2 – near Runway 04 threshold; and
c. Pedestrian Entry Point 3 – near the Boeing Hanger 410;
25. Air Show Cancellation. Should it become necessary to cancel the Air Show, the decision will be made by Head Special Events. The Public Affairs Plan details the public information to be disseminated. Additionally, road signs and Variable Message Signs (VMS) will be activated to direct traffic away from the air show. Turning bays will be set up as necessary by QPS. In the event of adverse weather leading up to the air show, particularly rainfall, the decision on cancellation will be made 72 hours prior to the air show. Traffic access to the car parks is a major limitation even after small amounts of rainfall.

Getting to the carpark approaches
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getting into the carparks
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the carparks
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moving people
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[Blknight.aus]

the timetable
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pedestrian walkways from various areas.
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[dobbo]

Out of interest, what is the distance from Ipswich station to the base? Is it walkable?

[Blknight.aus]

read the big red bit in the post 2 back...

if your leaving early

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and for the end of the day
Im going to paraphrase jayne from firefly..
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"hey im not involved, best of luck to you tho"

[Blknight.aus]

Out of interest, what is the distance from Ipswich station to the base? Is it walkable?

about 15K to the back gate.. then you have to turn around go back and follow the bus route to get in the front gate.

if you manage to get past the security then its about 3.2k from the back gate around the base back access road to the entry point.

anythings walkable if you have the time.

best take the public transport.

[paulthepilot_5]

Gees :eek:
by the sound of it i think going to the trouble of flying in is going to be the easier option :p

[Blknight.aus]

Weather....
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youve been warned.

[Blknight.aus]

Tickets purchasable here (http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx'sh=AMBERLEY08&searchId=3df59171-4af5-4534-a9ba-d5d2e56a1cf3)

and we got a 1750 unimog bogged in the area of carpark C2 and park A still has surface water.

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

I have a friend that is in the Jeep Club display that is taking an F1 Inter, for 2 days:( glad that he is paying for the fuel, as with twin Carbies, it isn't the most economicial of vehicles:)


cheers

[Blknight.aus]

another oportunity for a reccy...

the carparks, thanks to the recent hot dry weather and prevailing winds are mainly dry. there are some soft spots but nothing that is going to trip up anything with awd and a driver with a couple of IQ points

[Blknight.aus]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/24.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/25.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/26.jpg

sorry bout the quality but newspaper size articles are not the easiest to get onto a flatbed scanner.

[Blknight.aus]

all carparks mostly good...

theyve resized them a little and changed the distribution to allow for the couple of soggy spots in one of the carparks

IF you want to bring your car and you have little ones and dont want to work there is a sort of taxi service running from the base using kia carnivals.....

Dont ask who got stabbed for that but If you PM me and are planning on coming outside of the peak chaos times I might be able to get a vehicle out to pick you up...

Im not rostered for sunday so wont be able to help then unless I cop a stabbing, you will hear about it.

[VladTepes]

I'm ****ed off.

The C17 went U/S and didn't fly. That and the Pig were the reasons I went !

[RobHay]

I'm going to see if my nephew's are up for the day out. Do you know if there is a caravan park within walking distance?
Yep....heaps within walking distance....just depends upon how far you want to walk:D

[paulthepilot_5]

I'm ****ed off.

The C17 went U/S and didn't fly. That and the Pig were the reasons I went !


Mate, It is a bugger you missed out on the C17, was the most impressive bit of gear at the show. I don't think you were the only one to be a bit peeved about missing out.

Here is a video from the display:
YouTube - C17 takeoff (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6SDdUM_YELo)
and a few pics:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2239/dsc05040tj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1554/dsc04942ta3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2974/dsc04951qd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7029/dsc04954vc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Camo]

Hmm yes a wee bit bigger than the C172 I used to have:eek:

[paulthepilot_5]

By the way, I think a saw Dave's landy "Fozzy" parked around the back of the airfield on the western side :D

[VladTepes]

Thanks Paul.

I wonder if anyone has video of the short landing ?

EDIT

Found one on Youtube:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HafYJvh0RJE

[VladTepes]

and a take off

YouTube - C17 takeoff (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6SDdUM_YELo)

[scarry]

Well,i got a call out around 10 am on Saturday,to the place at Borallon that you go to when your naughty.After battling two hours of traffic,eventually got to site,and while outside fixing a few air conds,saw numerous different types of aircraft flying around.:)

[VladTepes]

It doesn't matter WHERE you go in Borallon its all crook !

[Blknight.aus]

we got 90,000 through the gates between the 2 days, the number of people there (as a head count) is a lot higher than that as children under 6, VIP's + families, contractor families, ADF families and about 2 hours of each day when ticketek wasnt working due to communications problem arent counted in.

if you think diesel at $1.65 is bad for a fuel price you probably dont want to know about the amount of fuel that was used up for the show but the 8 kias that were driving people around used up some 1500 liters of unleaded at the ADF price of $1 per liter and every time the F111's did a dump and burn each plane converted about $15000 of AvTur from fuel to noise and pollution for your enjoyment.

If you think that the Td5's fuel pump is impressive being able to flow about 60psi out of a 3/16th (ish) hole the pump that drops the fuel out the dump pipe of the F111 does it at 50Psi out of a 3 inch hole.

I was driving the truck that was delivering bottled water to the guys parking the cars out in the carpark guiding you guys around and all told they consumed over 3 tons of bottled water

Everyone so far thinks it was a great sucess.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Where are the pics?? :D:D :rulez:

[VladTepes]

Good work Dave ! Good work RAAF !

[Killer]

we got 90,000 through the gates between the 2 days, the number of people there (as a head count) is a lot higher than that as children under 6, VIP's + families, contractor families, ADF families and about 2 hours of each day when ticketek wasnt working due to communications problem arent counted in.


Not sure whether we would have been counted in that number, they opened the gates for us at about 10 am. on the Saturday as it was taking too long to get through the gates. Had a great day, I am really going to miss those pigs flying around though.

Cheers, Mick.

[Bush65]

...
If you think that the Td5's fuel pump is impressive being able to flow about 60psi out of a 3/16th (ish) hole the pump that drops the fuel out the dump pipe of the F111 does it at 50Psi out of a 3 inch hole.
...
A few years back, in an upgrade to a chemical plant I worked on, we used a rocket fuel pump.

It had to pump high pressure (head). Was impressive tech for a multi-stage pump that spun small rotors at over 20,000 rpm (direct drive from water cooled elec motor) and very compact for the power.