2008 defender 130

[discokid]

Hi guys

Ive done a bit of a search on the site but havent been able to find answers on a couple of things. Ive had the 130 on the road for 2 days and now Im wondering:
(Sorry for the stupid questions I havent had a diesel before)

Is there a speed limiter on these and if so can I get rid of it?

Do tunit chips and the like really work and increase power without effecting
fuel consumption? Im not a fan of magic black boxes for petrol applications but what about the diesel

A lot of people have turbo timers and the like on diesels to let the turbo slow down. Should I idle the car before turning it off?

The air intake is in through the side panel, it looks to me like sand from the front wheel would spray straight in as Ive got no front mudflaps. Anybody had this problem or hasnt the diesel got enough power to spin that hard on the beach?
Ill try it out for myself next week anyway but any experiences would be good

Cheers

[dmdigital]

The 08 Defender can have a speed limiter but it shouldn't be fitted (activated) in Australia. Its referenced in the manual and shows where the indication light appears.

Tunit and similar aren't the best solution and I doubt if they are available for the 08 Defender. Bell-Auto-Services in the UK does a switchable map for the TDCi ECU. As for what it does to fuel economy, don't know.

Turbo timer is a waste of money IMO. Best thing is to slow down and just let the engine idle for a while after a long stint.

[solmanic]

No speed limiter on Aus spec Defenders :thumbsup: Not that I've ever tried to find out the actual top speed mind you ;) (Ahh - hundred and forty something - hem!)

I can't see the benefit of chipping the ECU. The Puma runs like a chipped Td5 anyway.

And I also wouldn't mess with a turbo timer. Many insurance companies won't cover your vehicle if one is fitted. It's seen as an unacceptable risk due to the fact that you effectively walk away with the engine still running.

[C H T]

Fit a Safari snorkle - essential in my opinion if the vehicle is going to be used off-road or even on road out side city limits

Christopher

[spudboy]

The air intake is in through the side panel, it looks to me like sand from the front wheel would spray straight in as Ive got no front mudflaps. Anybody had this problem or hasnt the diesel got enough power to spin that hard on the beach?

Cheers

Had no problems with sand getting in the side mounted air intake and we've done quite a bit of beach work in ours.

Diesel has plenty of power to spin in the sand. Don't reckon it's worth getting it chipped, but then there's no such thing as too much power! Straight from the factory they are a good balance between power and economy.

Just got the dealer to fit the front mud flaps, and I have Mantec snorkel that I haven't got around to fitting yet ($500) ........

[dmdigital]

While the wheels spin in the sand? Oh yeah! The Traction Control is fantastic though:)

The side air intake is actually well protected and you don't get a lot in there. The main reason of the snorkel is to raise it for water crossings.

Having seen Safari, Airtec and now Mantec on Defenders I would actually go with the Mantec. The Safari is IMO over priced as is the Mantec if you buy it in Australia. Cost me 50% of the Australian price to get one from the UK. Very easy to fit. The really nice thing with the Mantec is it's almost invisible from the driver's seat and doesn't interfere with the mirror. The Safari is a lot wider, sticks further out from the vehicle and still limits the mirror positioning. The Airtec is even worse.

[discokid]

Hi Guys


Thanks for your responses thus far

I guess Im used to my Gen 3 powered landrover and Ive always had v8s. They spray sand everywhere when working them hard and it gets in everywhere

The diesel is a new thing for me

The 130 doesnt have traction control but looks like a snorkel is the way to go anyway

For what it is

It is actually a well balanced car it terms of power and weight. Ill see when I throw my 3t trailer on the back of it how it goes

Tunit chips are availiable according to Perth 4x4 here in Perth Im just not sure whether its going to give me that seat of the pants feel of power or not

Ill probably just leave it alone

[discowhite]

No speed limiter on Aus spec Defenders :thumbsup: Not that I've ever tried to find out the actual top speed mind you ;) (Ahh - hundred and forty something - hem!)

I can't see the benefit of chipping the ECU. The Puma runs like a chipped Td5 anyway.

And I also wouldn't mess with a turbo timer. Many insurance companies won't cover your vehicle if one is fitted. It's seen as an unacceptable risk due to the fact that you effectively walk away with the engine still running.

you must be takin the ****?? or you had a very slow chipped TD5?? you wouldnt catch me in a pink fit:p

cheers phil

[solmanic]

My point was more like - I had a regular Td5, and if I had it chipped and it went like the Puma, I would have been quite happy. Sure, there's no more power, but the ability to pull right through the rev range is just lovely.

And sure, I wouldn't stand a chance against your weapon but then who would? :p

[discowhite]

thats better! you may rise:wasntme:

cheers phil

[Captain_Rightfoot]

My point was more like - I had a regular Td5, and if I had it chipped and it went like the Puma, I would have been quite happy. Sure, there's no more power, but the ability to pull right through the rev range is just lovely.

And sure, I wouldn't stand a chance against your weapon but then who would? :p

You need to have a drive of mine one day Andrew. It's quite surprising. It's faster than a rangie V8 let alone a puma. :eek: :eek: :wasntme:

Where do they keep the flame suits around here ? :angel:

EDIT: I'm sure Phil's or one with the IC done as well would be frightening. Put it in a little body like the 90... :cool:

[one_iota]

. It's faster than a rangie V8 let alone a puma. :eek: :eek: :wasntme:

Where do they keep the flame suits around here ? :angel:



My 300Tdi Disco is as fast as a rangie V8. My Puma is much much faster than the Disco. :p ;)

I feel a drag race coming on.

[dmdigital]

My chipped and IC D2 would spin all 4 wheels and fishtail on a dirt road if you put the foot to the floor at under 40kph, then the TC would kick in.

OK the Puma isn't like that - its got better TC for starters. But the pulling power and lack of turbo lag make it a whole lot different vehicle.

[solmanic]

Well MY Puma is faster than an Enzo and thanks to the TC can make the earth rotate backwards on its axis when I take off at the lights and .... oh the hell with it...

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Well MY Puma is faster than an Enzo and thanks to the TC can make the earth rotate backwards on its axis when I take off at the lights and .... oh the hell with it...

Well... not only is mine faster than yours :p ... but it can do a trick that yours can't. If there is a car behind me, all I have to do is select a high gear and plant it. The car behind completely disappears in a cloud of black smoke! If you're lucky, and they had the windows open, if you get out of the throttle you can see your smoke billowing from their cabin and the occupants hanging out the window gasping for air :D :D

Seriously, as I've said before I love the puma and would get one if our car wasn't just setup the way we like it, and so new! I did enjoy that drive in yours. :)

[dmdigital]

Well MY Puma is faster than an Enzo and thanks to the TC can make the earth rotate backwards on its axis when I take off at the lights and .... oh the hell with it...
OK just because it's white doesn't mean its the Stig:Rolling:

[dullbird]

personally i think a normally chipped td5 would not pull away from a puma that easily...as for phils well no contest he has the top racing chip big intercooler silkicone hoses etc etc....of course his is fast....but he runs out of gears quicker than we do :p

[WMFD]

Just had mine ECU chipped in Perth supposedly to UK speccs an thouroughly recomend doing this torque is unbelievable in fact on paper is more than V8 landcruiser!!. Fuel economy wont change if you drive it the same speed as it was without chip ( pretty hard to do!!!), but does change dramatically if you use all of it but you are only talking a few litres /100K.

Standard they are speed limited at about 135K I think but now although i havent pushed it real hard but gets to 140 no problem. I believe this can be altered on the ECU.

Be aware that some can cost as much as $1690 to do. I did this at a cost of $535 which was not a add on.

[VladTepes]

Well my Tdi goes slower than the lot of you !

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Well my Tdi goes slower than the lot of you !

That just gives you more time to enjoy your landrover :)

[discokid]

WMFD


Would you mind sharing who did it and what it entails? Also is it a flashed computer ie undetectable to the dealer. I spoke to the dealer today and they actually have a defender being fitted with a chip. When I asked about warranty the salesman shrugged his shoulders and said I hadnt thought of that Ill have to check it out!


I was also told oz spec dont have a speed limiter. I think you will find you need a lot of power to push a house brick shaped car to any decent speed so it may just be a function of aerodynamics which speed limits the car

[dmdigital]

Check out the posts by B-A-S aka Bell Auto Services - UK (http://www.bellautoservices.co.uk)

[George130]

You need to have a drive of mine one day Andrew. It's quite surprising. It's faster than a rangie V8 let alone a puma. :eek: :eek: :wasntme:

Where do they keep the flame suits around here ? :angel:

EDIT: I'm sure Phil's or one with the IC done as well would be frightening. Put it in a little body like the 90... :cool:

Well lets say 130 loaded with car car trailer (1 ton) with pajero on trailer. cruising at 150kmh with omph to spare.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Well lets say 130 loaded with car car trailer (1 ton) with pajero on trailer. cruising at 150kmh with omph to spare.

:cool::cool: