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WhiteD3
19th November 2008, 07:50 PM
In my ongoing quest to provide Goodyear shareholders with increasing revenue:(:(, it seems to my untrained eye I might have buggered another tyre.

It's 3 to 4mm deep at the ugly looking bit.

Sage advice and witty comments are welcome.;)
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rangieman
19th November 2008, 07:57 PM
If its holding air she will be right mate;)

Slunnie
19th November 2008, 08:00 PM
If it's not deeper than the tread block then there is probably no need to worry.

JDNSW
19th November 2008, 08:04 PM
Legally speaking, no, it won't pass; practically, should be good for a few more thousand kilometres.

John

Tombie
19th November 2008, 08:04 PM
I'd rather drive on that tyre than a set of Coopers...

weeds
19th November 2008, 08:17 PM
i sliced a bfg at and got another 12 months out of it before water got into the steel belts and the tyre failed

Rangier Rover
19th November 2008, 08:41 PM
I'm always cutting tyres here:(. I just stick a sleeve in side the case and run it on the rear if posible. If bad use as a spare.

Tony

abaddonxi
19th November 2008, 08:45 PM
i sliced a bfg at and got another 12 months out of it before water got into the steel belts and the tyre failed

I've had a tyre fail once.

Really don't want to do that again.

Simon

Rosco
19th November 2008, 08:55 PM
Nuffin a bita no more gaps wouldn't fix .... ;)

dobbo
19th November 2008, 09:01 PM
I''ve seen worse,

11859

I''d put it on the rear though

weeds
19th November 2008, 09:03 PM
I've had a tyre fail once.

Really don't want to do that again.

Simon

you are right simon, it failed in the driveway, it was on the rear but it could have been a differant story at 100km/h

Captain_Rightfoot
19th November 2008, 09:13 PM
i sliced a bfg at and got another 12 months out of it before water got into the steel belts and the tyre failed

That's exactly what I worried about. :o

I wouldn't rush to the tyre shop tomorrow but I would replace it.

bigmac
19th November 2008, 09:37 PM
Hi WhiteD3,
I wouldn't trust it at 100kmh.
I have 5 Goodyears siting in the shed if you are interested 1 has never been on the
road the other 4 have done 30,000 Ks.
PM me if you are interested.

Bigmac

big guy
19th November 2008, 09:57 PM
i think that tyre as a whole has almost reached the end of days anyway.

Put on back and drive as long as you can.

Seen much worse.

This is not to be used as a gude or court of law though.

Tread carefully with tyres.

get it?

Sprint
19th November 2008, 10:56 PM
tbh i dont think its too bad, best have a look deeper into the cut and if you can see damage to belts, scrap it, if not, put it on the rear and drive it till its buggered

Col.Coleman
19th November 2008, 11:35 PM
Nah, she's all good. I love the sparks at night when the steel is poking through:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Don't ask me. I'm a tight ass. I would keep it until it exploded.

Just had a thought.

BURN OUT TYRE:firedevil:

There's a challenge in a D3

CC

Blknight.aus
19th November 2008, 11:41 PM
by the letter of the law yes as you have sidewall damage... (and on the edit you also have scolloping that has reduced the outside edge to below legal)

in reality providing the cut isnt past the depth of the tread blocks or into the first layer of the sidewall re-inforcement probably not But I would relegate it to being rear wheel or spare only.

mcrover
20th November 2008, 02:30 PM
In my ongoing quest to provide Goodyear shareholders with increasing revenue:(:(, it seems to my untrained eye I might have buggered another tyre.

It's 3 to 4mm deep at the ugly looking bit.

Sage advice and witty comments are welcome.;)
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So your talking of the cut and not the lack of tread (used to seeing 4ed tyres more these days with 10mm plus tread depth) to the outside edge?

Id be way more concernd with the scrubbing on the outside than the cut, unless the cut turns into a flap then you may want to get rid of it.

mike 90 RR
20th November 2008, 07:36 PM
So your talking of the cut and not the lack of tread (used to seeing 4ed tyres more these days with 10mm plus tread depth) to the outside edge?

Id be way more concernd with the scrubbing on the outside than the cut, unless the cut turns into a flap then you may want to get rid of it.

Thats what I see 2 .... If that tyre looks like that then the rest are at the tail end of there life 2



Use it for the spares you take in the bush .... It time the tyres go ...
I don't drive on risky tyres ... Life is worth more than that

I Couldn't vote ... cause you only gave a choice of Coopers .... :(

mcrover
20th November 2008, 07:46 PM
Thats what I see 2 .... If that tyre looks like that then the rest are at the tail end of there life 2



Use it for the spares you take in the bush .... It time the tyres go ...
I don't drive on risky tyres ... Life is worth more than that

I Couldn't vote ... cause you only gave a choice of Coopers .... :(

Yeah, there's tons of better tyres available than Coopers, I'd steer clear, after Ive already been bitten once already.

Rangier Rover
21st November 2008, 07:21 AM
So.... What is the bad on Coopers? They seem to be the no 1 selling tyre around here:confused: All those buyers can't be wrong can they:eek:

mjm295
21st November 2008, 08:40 AM
Im just a Pom, so feel free to take no notice, but in the UK, if we had a dodgy tyre it always went on the front.

That way if it failed at speed, we would hit the tree head on, where most of the crumple zones, drivers air bag etc would come into play.;)

If a rear tyre fails at speed then there is a good chance the vehicle could spin an the tree will come through the drivers door :o

Personally I would shell out for a new tyre and not hit the tree at all.

JDNSW
21st November 2008, 11:02 AM
This discussion highlights how much more prosperous we are as a society than only a generation ago. When I was a small boy it was commonplace to see tyres worn through at least a couple of layers of plies, or similar tyres, which were otherwise sound giving additional wear by having another tyre put on top of them with the beads cut off (presumably one where the beads or sidewall had been damaged). Admittedly speed tended to be a lot lower, but the roads were a lot worse (and the accident/injury/death rates far higher than today - no seat belts).

John

mike 90 RR
21st November 2008, 01:03 PM
This discussion highlights how much more prosperous we are as a society than only a generation ago. When I was a small boy it was commonplace to see tyres worn through at least a couple of layers of plies, or similar tyres, which were otherwise sound giving additional wear by having another tyre put on top of them with the beads cut off (presumably one where the beads or sidewall had been damaged). Admittedly speed tended to be a lot lower, but the roads were a lot worse (and the accident/injury/death rates far higher than today - no seat belts).

John

And tyres all had tubes in them .... Another factor is that the price of a tyre has not got any more expensive to buy in the last (say) 10 years .... So they are cheap as chips

Unless your intend paying $500 each :eek:

mcrover
21st November 2008, 01:57 PM
So.... What is the bad on Coopers? They seem to be the no 1 selling tyre around here:confused: All those buyers can't be wrong can they:eek:

Yes they can be wrong, maybe your local tyre joint sells them cheaper than BFG......worth considering...:eek:


This discussion highlights how much more prosperous we are as a society than only a generation ago. When I was a small boy it was commonplace to see tyres worn through at least a couple of layers of plies, or similar tyres, which were otherwise sound giving additional wear by having another tyre put on top of them with the beads cut off (presumably one where the beads or sidewall had been damaged). Admittedly speed tended to be a lot lower, but the roads were a lot worse (and the accident/injury/death rates far higher than today - no seat belts).

John

Yeah I remember those days or playing colour in between the grooves so the road worthy man wouldnt see the canvas on the tyre after it was regrooved and vulcanising wire mesh into the sidewall of a tyre with a big cut in it and then throwing a patch over it, whacking a tube in and sending it on it's way.

They were of course only ever used off road..........:angel:

Scarey stuff, you wouldnt dare do that nowdays but when your 15, it's the 80's, no jobs around in your country town and your boss (because your one of the lucky ones) says do this.......you do it and dont think of what could happen.




And tyres all had tubes in them .... Another factor is that the price of a tyre has not got any more expensive to buy in the last (say) 10 years .... So they are cheap as chips

Unless your intend paying $500 each :eek:

Really, thats why BFG allterrains are now $250 each rather than the $125 they were in 1997 when I bought a set for the Triton I had?

I think thats an increase, thats doubled in price but I dare say they probably cost about 20c each more to make in Korea or india or where ever the hell they are made these days than they did back then when they were made in the states.

EchiDna
21st November 2008, 02:46 PM
If you had an accident with that tyre on the car, insurance might just walk away - I know a few panels beaters around who would be nice and swap em over for you (just to make sure they get paid more than anything else!), but none the less a risk...

What's the other front look like? This one has obviously been out of balance for a while (scrubbed all the wear indicators off the outer edge) - do the required preventative maintenance and tyres will wear evenly.

If I were you I'd be looking for a second hand road legal replacement ASAP if only to keep the vehicle legal, never mind potential safety and/or insurance issues.

CaverD3
21st November 2008, 09:42 PM
IMHO it was buggered when it went on. :angel:

It's an OEM Wrangler.;);)

WhiteD3
22nd November 2008, 06:07 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys. It's the clincher for me so there's a new set of 5 Cooper ST or Grabber AT2 or some such in the offing.

They have to be 18's so the choice is limited.

CaverD3
22nd November 2008, 10:31 AM
have got some 18 inch Geolandars too. :)

WhiteD3
22nd November 2008, 12:11 PM
have got some 18 inch Geolandars too. :)

I had a look on their website and couldn't see any 18's, I'll have another looksee.

CaverD3
22nd November 2008, 12:46 PM
http://www.yokohama.com.au/downloadfile.aspx?fileid=5604

265/60R18 265 60 18 110H Geolandar A/T-S G012 775 272 8.0 7.5 9.5

chuck
23rd November 2008, 10:04 PM
You can get BFG all terrains in 18's now.
Mickey Thompson ATZ's will fit 275 x 65 x 18

Regards

Chuck

Rangier Rover
24th November 2008, 01:32 AM
Just stick a sleeve in it and but it on the back.:D If it pops and you lose it you must drive to hard as these new Rovers do handle well.:D
I never trust a new tyre 100% anyway. Just ease off on the bends if it scares you.

nikjt
1st December 2008, 08:38 PM
Go and buy a set of goodyear MTR or Wrangler Silent armor, you can't go wrong, no punctures in 40k km's and lots of offroading and outback tracks.:cool:

Nik

WhiteD3
1st December 2008, 08:46 PM
Go and buy a set of goodyear MTR or Wrangler Silent armor, you can't go wrong, no punctures in 40k km's and lots of offroading and outback tracks.:

Thanks Nik. No go on the MTR as they don't do an 18" but I'll try to overcome my Wrangler phobia and look at the Silent Armour P265/60R18 109T.

WhiteD3
1st December 2008, 08:48 PM
Go and buy a set of goodyear MTR or Wrangler Silent armor, you can't go wrong, no punctures in 40k km's and lots of offroading and outback tracks.:cool:

Nik

Thanks Nik. No go on the MTR as they don't do an 18" but I'll try to overcome my Wrangler phobia and look at the Silent Armour P265/60R18 109T.

Graeme
2nd December 2008, 05:49 AM
Thanks Nik. No go on the MTR as they don't do an 18" but I'll try to overcome my Wrangler phobia and look at the Silent Armour P265/60R18 109T.
I like the 225/75R16 Silent Armours on my D2, but they are LT not passenger construction. I was very impressed when a half-inch diameter stake went through the middle of a sidewall on Madigans and the sidewall didn't tear and only needed plugs for a temporary repair.

I think GY should make their LT245/70R17 available in Aus for the D3, both in SA and MTR.