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HughP
15th March 2009, 12:30 PM
To you 11A experts
I repost here 'cause its a bit more logical ...
My 11A SWB HT is chassis 24302377a, and engine 25131001b.
It has spoked steering wheel, 2 bobbin gene regulator, one only indent on the front mudguards for sidelights, single windscreen wiper, screw in hand tighten dizzy cap leads. Earlier (Original?) Vic rego HSD 811
A common enough configuration and I recon 1962, whats your guess?
cheers
Hugh
djam1
15th March 2009, 12:45 PM
Hugh
Put the chassis number in this http://www.clifton.nl/index.html?calvin.html
Duane
pop058
15th March 2009, 05:38 PM
Hugh
Put the chassis number in this Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands (http://www.clifton.nl/index.html?calvin.html)
Duane
posted those results in one of Hugh's earlier threads.  10/61 to 3/63 is the range.
paul
wozapinin
15th March 2009, 10:19 PM
try finding out its true age with the rego plates. may be diferent in Vic but i picked up a unregistered landy with the plates still on and called rego dept. they told me the date of manufacture as on their puter. then told me i had to pay transfer fees:p...told him my name was "argo" and hung up:D.
Turtle61
15th March 2009, 11:16 PM
My SII's chassis number says 1961, but rego papers say 1960.
Go figure :confused:
digger
16th March 2009, 01:33 AM
cut it in half and count the rings....:D:o
mine was 8 years old.......:D:eek::p
yet the rego said 1963??...I am so confused...
digger
JDNSW
16th March 2009, 06:26 AM
try finding out its true age with the rego plates. may be diferent in Vic but i picked up a unregistered landy with the plates still on and called rego dept. they told me the date of manufacture as on their puter. then told me i had to pay transfer fees:p...told him my name was "argo" and hung up:D.
Unless it has been continuously registered in the same state (getting unlikely for 2as!) it is unlikely that the state's age is anything more than what they were told when it was most recently registered. And even if it has been continuously on their books, the registration papers were prepared by hand when first registered, and only transferred to computer fairly recently, so there is plenty of opportunities for errors to creep in. 
John
HughP
16th March 2009, 09:36 AM
Thanks guys for the info. I believe the HSD prefix Vic rego number was its original rego and I have those plates from the first owner.
Digger - Count its rings?? - Here's a comment on tree rings (Attached pic I hope!) 
JDNSW - I had an Iseki 7000 tractor for many years fitted with Isuzu 3.9. Super tough motor. Only thing for 15,000 hours work was a cooling jacket casting, 'cause I didnt keep up the green radiator goop properly.
Cheers all ... Hugh
Sleepy
16th March 2009, 07:00 PM
cut it in half and count the rings....:D:o
:lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2:
HughP
19th March 2009, 05:33 PM
cut it in half and count the rings....:D:o
mine was 8 years old.......:D:eek::p
yet the rego said 1963??...I am so confused...
digger
Try this... 4 cylinders, 3 rings each, bore about 3.75". that makes 45 years....
4 x 3 x 3.75... 1964 :angel: Bingo! no confusion in my mind - or is it total!
... Hugh
UncleHo
20th March 2009, 09:58 AM
G'day HughP :)
 
    From my commencing vehicle numbers list that I have it is as follows:
 
    Export RHD Stg. CKD
 
    88" W/base  2.25 litre 
 
 
    Commencing chassis No 24300001A  in 1961
 
    So your vehicle is the 2376th chassis produced,and as the model year started in July/August and with shipping to BMC Australia it would probably have arrived in about Nov/Dec of 1961  then assembled at Pressed Metal Corp Enfield in Sydney, (unless it was sold through Annand & Thompson Brisbane, as they often imported some complete vehicles from UK as well as selling CKD vehicles)  so I would put your vehicle as a 1961 model standard SWB hardtop,"standard" vehicle was only fitted with one windscreen wiper, hardtop would have been an extra,(options list) as would have been all and any towing fitting and blinkers were optional on commercial vehicles up until 1962 9at least in Qld)  Annand & Thompson Ltd Brisbane price list June 1962, lists 88" petrol engine at Australian 1372 pounds.13 shillings.9 pence($2745.40) :)  prices for 88" full metal hood (hardtop) was extra 125 pounds($250)  Registration in Qld private: 15 pounds 14 shillings 6 pence($31.45) Third Party Ins. 7 pounds 1shillings ($15.10)
 
I hope that gives you an idea of the Era and the prices,as well as the date info for your vehicle 1961 model first year  of the 2a :D
 
 
                                                                                 cheers
foz.in.oz
21st March 2009, 01:55 PM
HughP,
I was going to paste a link to a UK based site called LRFAQ the day you first placed this thread however the site seems to have dissapeared. However, long story short is the attached table is from that website which I svaed ages ago but couldn't find until today. What it shows is the build date data for known chassis numbers. So all you need to do is find where yours fits in and voila you know the age. Which I think is makes yours built after Dec '61 and before Dec '62.
HughP
22nd March 2009, 04:08 PM
[quote=UncleHo;938352]G'day HughP :)
 
    From my commencing vehicle numbers list that I have it is as follows:
 
    Export RHD Stg. CKD
 
    88" W/base  2.25 litre 
 
 
    Commencing chassis No 24300001A  in 1961
 
    So your vehicle is the 2376th chassis produced,and as the model year started in July/August and with shipping to BMC Australia it would probably have arrived in about Nov/Dec of 1961  then assembled at Pressed Metal Corp Enfield in Sydney, (unless it was sold through Annand & Thompson Brisbane, as they often imported some complete vehicles from UK as well as selling CKD vehicles)  so I would put your vehicle as a 1961 model standard SWB hardtop,"standard" vehicle was only fitted with one windscreen wiper, hardtop would have been an extra,(options list) as would have been all and any towing fitting and blinkers were optional on commercial vehicles up until 1962 9at least in Qld)  Annand & Thompson Ltd Brisbane price list June 1962, lists 88" petrol engine at Australian 1372 pounds.13 shillings.9 pence($2745.40) :)  prices for 88" full metal hood (hardtop) was extra 125 pounds($250)  Registration in Qld private: 15 pounds 14 shillings 6 pence($31.45) Third Party Ins. 7 pounds 1shillings ($15.10)
 
I hope that gives you an idea of the Era and the prices,as well as the date info for your vehicle 1961 model first year  of the 2a :D
 .... Well thanks to you  Ho. I figured it was there abouts. Actually I am only the second owner of this vehicle and it has not moved that far from its earlier life. I have the original rego plates and a contact for the original owner, And I could make a fair guess which motor dealership it was purchased from.
You know, I believe the gearbox etc is still totally untouched, and it doesnt leak oil. The front swivells are pretty scored, but the 'groil' lubricant option works OK. I'm about to give her a 10 year workover wrt springs, shackles, exhaust and brakes, and not much else. That should see the 'Ol girl OK for the next 10 years. She is very free from rust, and garaged.
I guess I'm hooked on this old bird, I call it my 'Low overheads' farm 4WD . I had a 2 1/4 Station Wagon - ex PNG Telecom vehicle - of the same vintage 30 years ago that was the vehicle of many an adventure & Story.   ........... Hugh
GSKeeper
24th March 2009, 07:53 AM
G'day HughP,
 
I had a look at a 88' S2a on the weekend, chassis No34302197a.....
exactly 180 vehicles before yours.
 
Unfortunately, this vehicle is only good for spares as the chassis is almost completely rusted out... but she still runs well, original motor, gearbox etc, evan running a generator..
 
Cheers
 
Ben
HughP
25th March 2009, 09:45 AM
Nothing wrong with a generator... I recon that batteries last longer under gene charge. I had a "New" battery on hand for 2 years waiting for my landy 5yo battery to die. I also have a farm tractor here (Ford 4000 6X) with a gene and I keep it that way.
My fav Auto electrician hereabouts has no trouble servicing Lucas stuff of the 60's.
Chassis rusted out on 2197a - that is sad. I am surprised how little rust I have, and my beast lives on a dairy farm. I guess I dont really use it in the dairy mud that much and it is garaged. Maybe the dried mud coating the underside protects it from the next layer of wet stuff on top - grin.
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