starting series 1 restoration

[Landy Smurf]

g day all im 17 and im goin to start a 1953 series 1 restoration in a couple of months when ive put an extra bay on the shed but i have to complet in just over a year and i was wondering whether you guys could give me some tips or advice ill post some pics up later

[JDNSW]

Welcome. Read everything in the Series 1 forum here would be a good start. Ask specific questions, and I am sure all the experts here will help as much as possible.

John

[Sleepy]

...and use punctuation.;)


Only gagging schmierer LR at singleton, you will get lots of help and info here - all we ask is LOTS OF PHOTOs.

You also might like to have a look here:

Trans Tasman Land Rover Series 1 Register Forum • Index page (http://transtasmanseries1.com/forum/index.php)

and here:

Home (http://www.lrsoc.com/forum/index.php?action=pages)



Good luck - I only wish I'd started when I was 17!

[mudmouse]

Good for you mate! Well done.

Photo's are the go and it's nice to have a look back on them later on.

I've never owned a Series 1 but it's great to see a young bloke having a go - you'll find heaps of information and advice here.

Good luck with it.

Matt.

[olmate]

Well done mate and welcome aboard :D:D:D

You will find the fellas here always willing to help you out. They aren't sick of me asking questions time and time again :o. Go for it and remember to post a heap of pics as you go ;)

I shall be watching your progress mate.

[Seriously_Series]

G,Day mate

My first Land Rover was a 53. Started around your age too.

Post some photos everyone one here love's photos.

Also might be worth checking out this place:
Trans Tasman Land Rover Series 1 Register Forum • Index page (http://www.transtasmanseries1.com/forum/index.php)

[101RRS]

A cheap reference book is "Practical Classics On Landrover Series 1 Restoration". It is small book containing various restoration articles.

Comes up on e-bay often for just over $30.

Garry

[Lost Landy]

G,day all, its a great idea to take phptos of every thing before and during the big strip down, as you go along as it will make it easier when its time to put it all back together. Another tip is to label every thing too and dont throw any thing away as it could be a rare or unique part. Ive done that and its a pain to replace it lol.

[Landy Smurf]

here is some pics of wen i picked them up

[easo]

Looks like you have a good starting point for a great project.

You'll find a stack of info, help and knowledge here. Just cost you a few progress pics. Have a look at 'olmates' threads on his ex 107 ute and 80" projects.

Oh and welcome, Easo

[Landy Smurf]

yes thanks most of it is there got a good a good fire wall about 4 traybacks not much rust only a bit on one of the crossmembers but bought a mig welder today to help do any repairs but at the moment the only things i need are instrament panel and instraments steering wheel carby and maybe lights if any one has any of these parts or any other parts they would like to sell im always on the search for them

[Landy Smurf]

a few more pics and all that only cost me $4oo

[Lost Landy]

WOW that is a great buy, not its time for the fun bit called " restoration" lol.

[Landy Smurf]

hey your avatar is of the ist land rover nice pic and yeah i thought for $4oo i couldnt go wrong even though its gonna cost me alot more then that im thinking og galvanising the chassis any one got any opinions on that

[Mick-Kelly]

The 80 on the left (naf green steering wheel) looks like a wide transom model which makes it fairly early (49 - 50). Has it got fishtail chassis mounts on the front bumper (shaped wider at the front) and a ring pull transfer case. It would have been a lights behind grill model. Have a search round for a thread i did on Massey Ferguson tractor lights as replacements. Any chance of a chassis number (engine mount passenger side) or a A & T plate photo.

[Landy Smurf]

it doesnt have a ring pull on it and the guy that we bought them off said he checked the chassis numbers and they both are 53s

[Mick-Kelly]

Let us know the chassis numbers and we can tell for sure, they definitely look earlier though.

[Landy Smurf]

ill try to remember to have a look tomorrow
thanks for your interest though

[olmate]

I know that I have said it before - but you have done very well. Keep the progress pics coming :D

[Mick-Kelly]

Heres a piccy that shows some of what i was talking about. Its a 49 model and things to note are the shape of the grill panel set up for the headlights behind the grill and the lack of factory door handles on the outside. You can also see the fishtail bumper mounts at the end of the chassis. Looking at the one of yours with the green wheel it seems to have the same grill panel. Does yours also have the park lights on the bulkhead just below the windscreen.

[cummo]

Schmierer,

I galvanised the chassis of my Series 2a Trayback ute; also did the firewall and radiator support panel.

Holes placement and size for ventilation and drainage is really important as you want to minimise distortion, and the trapping of air pockets (which can impact on coating extent and cause expansion explosion), and also so that you don't end up with a very corrosion resistant but massively heavy solid zinc chassis! At the time when I did it (20 years ago!), a really helpful representative from the local galvanising firm came to my place to look at the components and advise me on location and size of drain/vent holes and also suggested to where possible seal weld joints between rail panels and cross members to minimise collection of the cleaning acid in joint crevices. (As I understand it where crevices are exposed acid will collect due to it's viscosity being lower that that of the molten zinc, and it will leach out over time).

A metallurgist friend also tested the chassis steel for suitability for galvanising in terms of structural change due the heat involved in the galvanising process - the results were positive; steel grade was suitable.

The chassis came up really well, however it's still sitting in the corner of the yard!

Following galvanising you will have to ream out to correct diameter the spring bush sleeves and the holes for the spring shackle bolts. (I haven't done this yet).

My only concerns with a Series 1 chassis would be that it has more closed members than the does the Series 2A chassis (the rear crossmember comes to mind), and whether the grade of steel used in the earlier vehicles viz. early '50's, differed from that used in later years.

If you're considering galvanising the original Series 1 bulkead I have heard it can be problematic in terms of distortion due presumably to the difference in design to that of the Series 2/2A. I suggest if you're contemplating that to do some more research. There are a couple of firms in the UK who produce replacement bulkheads and I think galvanised may come as an option with some of these, however their design may differ from that of the original.

If you choose to paint the chassis following galvanising you'll have to use an etch primer or let it weather outdoors. (My default approach!)

Good luck with your restorations. (Hope they progress faster than mine..........).

Cummo

[Landy Smurf]

hey everyone ill get some for pics up next weekend im pretty sure its not a 49 its the same as the other one thanks for all the help and support already ill need a lot of it wen i get into the nitty gritty:)

[Newbs-IIA]

On ya mate :D I had two Series landy's at 17 too :p I'm 18 now and have just finished fixing up my Ex-Mill 109" IIA, only got a couple more things to do before rego. I also have a 51' modle series I 80inch with a holden 186 as a farm hack, very capable little rig. Stick to it mate, it's worth i when you get to drive em legit on the road ;)

[Landy Smurf]

hey good to see other young guys out there into land rovers how did u get in to them

[101RRS]

hey good to see other young guys out there into land rovers how did u get in to them

Hey I am young too:cool: Well at least in my mind - the body is ratchit :( and went to pot years ago :mad: but the mind is still willing:D

Garry

[Newbs-IIA]

hey good to see other young guys out there into land rovers how did u get in to them

I really only like old cars, very simple and easy to fix - my daily driver is a HZ Kingswood - haven't got alot of time for technology in my life haha. Basically I had been hunting around for a project 4WD to fix up and go camping in as mum and dad needed the use of our cruiser during the week. I was strictly a Toyota man but couldn't justify having to pay rego on two 6cyl cars (I would have gotten a HJ45 otherwise :p) untill one day I came across a basket case IIA for $400. It was 4cylinder and more importantly was different to a hilux which everyone seems to have haha. And the rest they say is history haha, that was about 1 year ago and after doing all the work myself there is only some brake issues to sort and i will have my beach truck :D

A couple of months ago I came across my Series I on eBay, also for $400 so I snapped that up so not to see it continue to rot away on the farm it came from. Seems $400 is the going price for old landys hahahaha and i now have a possible base for an awesome comp. truck :angel:

If you are looking for inspiration you have come to the right place, there are heaps of bild up threads to get you ideas rolling, here's mine if you are interested lol, http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-projects/55099-saved-109-iia-lots-pics.html

Keep up the good work champ ;), add me on msn if ya want to talk landys any time lol

[Landy Smurf]

to right the wasting to much money on luxury and by putting more luxury things in the weight goes up then they need bigger motors you go back 30 years ago and the weight of vehicles has pretty much doubled im part of the KISS(keep it simple stupid) club and they are off road vehicles for a reason they are supposed to be simple and easy to fix i would never take a landcruiser 200 series more then 50m from the main road. might be putting in the posts for the shed within the next couple of weeks as soon as the shed is up im into it.......cant wait:D

[Landy Smurf]

just got a lincoln mig welder last weekend and have starting welding the posts up for the shed unfortunately its being raining and the shed floor is a mess have to wait a couple of weeks to flatten it out

[Landy Smurf]

a few more pics before i start the last one is of where the shed is going

[chris1983rangie]

Hey mate,

cool pics, i remember 3 years into my project on my 55' i worked outside in the driveway. 3 winters was enough for me so i sold my brothers
63VW, it had sat there for 8 years and he said time for it to go.....bye.....bye...;-) I cleaned the garage out and rolled my landy straight in there
which is now much more comfortable to work in.

all the best with your project and keep the pics comming.

Chris.

[Landy Smurf]

thanks mate just chasing up instrument panel now found one from a fellow aulronian just without instruments reely wanted a complete one but i have to take what i can get got steel for 2 posts cost $180(stupid)

[easo]

Looking for the bits can be part of the fun.

[Landy Smurf]

its fun wen u find them

[Landy Smurf]

finally poured down the slab for the shed hopefully should have the sreies1s in there by july

[Landy Smurf]

got it in the shed and started pulling it apart today.got the rhs fender off, the radiator grill, streering rods/arms,where the battery and air filter sit off cut most of the old wiring off and the engine in it is stuffed so i took the tappet valve cover off and the timing chain cover off just so i could have a peek inside. found a bit of rust in the chassis and a few splits also got the bumper bar off.took me about 4 hours. i do have pictures but they are to big to upload and i dont know how to resize them

[Newbs-IIA]

put them on photobucket mate - makes life alot easier :)

Is it the original motor? may be worth restoring if it is

[Landy Smurf]

put them on photobucket mate - makes life alot easier :)

Is it the original motor? may be worth restoring if it is
all the motors and gearboxes i have are original.how do i get the photobucket

[Landy Smurf]

here is the negine that i think is stuffed (pic from bloke who we got them from)

[lane]

Schmierer,

I galvanised the chassis of my Series 2a Trayback ute; also did the firewall and radiator support panel.

... At the time when I did it (20 years ago!)...

... The chassis came up really well, however it's still sitting in the corner of the yard!

... (I haven't done this yet)....

...or let it weather outdoors. (My default approach!)

Good luck with your restorations. (Hope they progress faster than mine..........).

Cummo

Cummo, great post! You made my night (yeah, I see you wrote these brutally honest things back in April, but I just saw them...)

:) :D

[Landy Smurf]

that last pick was just to see if i worked
here comes a few more

[Landy Smurf]

got them pulled a part now try and get pics of them up as soon as my net is working. took me about 10 hours to get 2 s1 pulled apart down to the chassis pretty happy about that

[Landy Smurf]

i have done alot since then

[Landy Smurf]

more pics

[Landy Smurf]

im trying not to put to many on

[Landy Smurf]

finally got it outside

[Landy Smurf]

getting th egearbox out and engine dad helped with the gearbox but i did the engine my self even though i used a winch i was still very happy with myself

[Landy Smurf]

now on to the other one.the first one tokk about 10 hours to pull apart

[Landy Smurf]

this one only took 3 hours

[Landy Smurf]

seperated the transfer case from the gearbox so far so good

[Landy Smurf]

im starting my port folio for my school project and the teacher wants me to call the project something other then land rover series one any ideas

[Shonky]

Has the truck got a name?

Maybe give it a name and use that?

[digger]

try some old names.... cyril, bert, edgar, ronald (the landrover), larry (the landrover), juan, (as in the series Juan!) maybe check out grandfathers or great grandfathers names?

did we get the chassis numbers in the end?

keep up the good work.

[Landy Smurf]

yeah i got most of the numbers identified
im trying to think of a trendy name for a project instead of normal sort of names
im thinking about having short or shorty in it

[260AC]

Interesting,

My mum, a real Londoner, called my S1 when I was at school, 'Genevieve' after the the film Genevieve (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genevieve_%28film%29)

She had grown up in London at the time the film was made and her parents had worked at the Ealing Studios helping out here and there and strongly associated the S1 as a very English thing.

I hated it at the time as it was really uncool as Anthony Maeder always said his 53 was called Winifred which was twice as uncool.

I still refer to this 80" as it origional number plate PR 458, but still think of that connection mum made when I was at school in the early 1990's

Maybe you should have someone name you S1, even if it isn't something you like

[Landy Smurf]

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[Landy Smurf]

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just a few pics of what i have been up to lately

[easo]

Looking the part, keep it up.

Easo

[Landy Smurf]

tahnks mate i am having a bit of trouble with the diff though.also i am doing a few weeks of work experiance at allfourx4sparees at kotara soon so dad said i should take the gearbox down there and get them to help me with paying them to offcourse.but i think i would be able to do it at home,your thoughts

[Larry]

try some old names.... cyril, bert, edgar, ronald (the landrover), larry (the landrover), juan, (as in the series Juan!) maybe check out grandfathers or great grandfathers names?

did we get the chassis numbers in the end?

keep up the good work.

My 80" is Larry the Land Rover, & to quote the movie Highlander, "there can be only one"!!:D:D:D:p:p:p

Good progress by the way.[thumbsupbig]

[Landy Smurf]

hey i finally got the shed sorted and have all my s1 stuff layed out nicely so its time i go and get stuck into it again first thing checking out the rust and how bad it is might even cut it out today i mite get some pics of it but ill definately have some questions :wasntme:

[easo]

Great, cant wait to see the progress.

Easo

[Landy Smurf]

just wondering how long/hard is it to strip a gearbox or engine and how long/hard is it to put a gearbox back together and what should i look for to replace

[Shonky]

Stripping a gearbox is easy - its putting it back together that gets tricky! :eek2: :p

[Landy Smurf]

Stripping a gearbox is easy - its putting it back together that gets tricky! :eek2: :p
wat is it that gets tricky and why

[Shonky]

Don't ask me - rebuilding gearboxes is beyond the realms of my expertise and experience for now.

I would give it a crack if I had a good mentor to guide me through it, but I would be very hesitant to go it alone...

[Tote]

These dudes sell a rebuild kit with all the instructions : Land Rover Series 1-3 4 Speed Gearbox Overhaul Kit - eBay Manual Transmission, Transmission, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 18-Feb-10 08:27:12 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Series-1-3-4-Speed-Gearbox-Overhaul-Kit_W0QQitemZ220498181084QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item3356b73bdc)
If you use it let me know how you go :D

Regards,
Tote

[groucho]

The series Gear Box is designed to be one of the most repair er
friendly gearboxes ever made. You will never learn if you don't have a go.
Go ahead and strip it down there is plenty of help here to guide you through.
Thats the thing doing a series Land Rover and the satisfaction of doing it yourself. Go on get cracking.........Mark

[Rangier Rover]

The series Gear Box is designed to be one of the most repair er
friendly gearboxes ever made. You will never learn if you don't have a go.
Go ahead and strip it down there is plenty of help here to guide you through.
Thats the thing doing a series Land Rover and the satisfaction of doing it yourself. Go on get cracking.........Mark

Yep, I agree. They are really a vintage car box so very simple to work with. Just depends how bad it is. You will have no trouble pulling it down or resembling it. Just have to identify what is tired in there and get rid of any end float. Make sure the detent springs are good.

[Landy Smurf]

got the tailshafts out and then the gearbox and bad news in a way the gearbox crossmember is rusted out beyond rapair.good news got the gearbox and transfer seperated and so far everything looks pretty good got all the transfer apart except for some of the barings and seal ill get them out when i have the ones to replace them.2 of the bearings had imprinted made in usa :o anyway having a rest and then hopefully gearbox but i doubt it i might just clean the transfer up.if anyone wants some photos(even though they are not that excitin) i am happy to get some and put them up

[Landy Smurf]

a long night :eek: cleaning but i have all the tranfer apart and cleaned just need to get new bearings, seals and gaskets aswell as prob abit of machining.more bad news found more problems with the chassis it is split in some pieces i just hope that it is not rusted there aswell ;)

[easo]

a long night :eek: cleaning but i have all the tranfer apart and cleaned just need to get new bearings, seals and gaskets aswell as prob abit of machining.more bad news found more problems with the chassis it is split in some pieces i just hope that it is not rusted there aswell ;)

Lets hope for some good news then.
I've never had any mechanical hands on until I took over my S1 from Dad. Since then I have done everything from head gasket to new bearings in diffs and replacing windscreen glass.

Its very satisfying. Easo

[Landy Smurf]

what sort of condition was it when you got it and when did you get it :angel:

[Landy Smurf]

i have some 2piece fenders but i think they are not the right ones im not sure i also got told that after 1953 they went to 3piece can some one please set me straight :)

[Landy Smurf]

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[Landy Smurf]

but now they are clean
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:)

[groucho]

Nearly clean ?.....Ya missed a bit just over there.
Now piccys of the intermediate shaft and thrust washers
and torrington rollers..........

[Landy Smurf]

saving that for ron and it was 11pm and we ran out of petrol

[back_in]

good to see you have started
but your cleaning is only started
you have a few things to further strip
then clean and clean, then clean again
every bit of crap you do not clean out will run around until it causes something to die.
and when it is clean( like a operating theater)
cover it so no crap from out side comes along and stuff's up what you have just done.
one thing that helps keep your tools clean as well as your hands
also use kero not petrol, it does not dry out, and bit's start rusting very quickly if you use petrol
cheers
Ian

[Landy Smurf]

yer that was my first clean and we will do it again when we get our parts.i would sooner use kero but dad prefers petrol.i want to make up a bit of a wash tub i know that they are only about $80 but i think i should be able to make something up myself with stuff laying around.we will further strip the parts when we get all the bearings and seals.

[Landy Smurf]

where can i get a transfer and/or gearbox rebuild kit(bearings seals and gaskets) in the transfer case there were bearings from england, italy and usa ;) so some one has been at it before.i want to order the the bearings and seals this week

[JDNSW]

All four X 4 is probably your closest.

John

[groucho]

As in a few earlier posts a fellow posted Re build kits.
If all gears ect are good. Credit card and postman delivers Too easy


Land Rover Series 1-3 Transfer Case Overhaul Kit - eBay Manual Transmission, Transmission, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 18-Feb-10 08:26:56 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Series-1-3-Transfer-Case-Overhaul-Kit_W0QQitemZ220498180979QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item3356b73b73)

[Landy Smurf]

ok a few questions
1. s1-3 are they the same transfers
2.$250 was not expecting that,is it cheaper if you sort out the individual parts
3.who has purchased this kit

[Landy Smurf]

All four X 4 is probably your closest.

John
i would sooner go some where else

[Landy Smurf]

i am not going to spend $600 on overhaul kits for gearbox and transfer :mad:

[groucho]

ok a few questions
1. s1-3 are they the same transfers
2.$250 was not expecting that,is it cheaper if you sort out the individual parts
3.who has purchased this kit

Basicaly the same except for the intermediate shaft size

[groucho]

i am not going to spend $600 on overhaul kits for gearbox and transfer :mad:

Why did you pull it to bit's then?
Sounds like a Dulux overhaul then........

[Landy Smurf]

to see what it is like and to get in good running condition.but it might be easy for some people that have an income to do these things but since i dont have any income i am trying to save as much money as possible.so im not going to buy gaskets and im going to shop around for bearings and seals and noe that i know that s1-s3 are the same that will make it easier

[groucho]

You started off saying that you were going to do a Restoration
Then you asked where to get gearbox kits from
And some people told you where to get them from.
It's up to you. Going by the photos i can see at least $ 8000.00
or better to get it up to rego. Corn flake boxes make good gaskets too......

[Landy Smurf]

i know that i am in for abit moolash but i plan on doing this over a few years and i have to do some(chassis,g-box,t-box,steering,brakes and the engine oh and the diffs) for a school project this year i know i wont get all that done but i need to watch my money for these parts of the resto and the other can probably wait till i get a job.i think i can probably get the chassis done fairly cheap.and i might end up putting s3 diffs on to save money.rego is long long time away and im in no rush for that.

[Landy Smurf]

pulled the gaerbox apart and cleaned a bit of it today.
bit worried about a couple of the gears, i think i might have to post some pics up to get your opinions;)

[ashhhhh]

Ive only just looked at this thread, looks like a good project!


to see what it is like and to get in good running condition.but it might be easy for some people that have an income to do these things but since i dont have any income i am trying to save as much money as possible.so im not going to buy gaskets and im going to shop around for bearings and seals and noe that i know that s1-s3 are the same that will make it easier

If theres one thing ive learnt about this sort of caper it is that going cheap is generally a waste of time, and money.
Spend what needs to be spent to get it done properly.
If you cant afford what it costs to do it properly then wait, and save.

Do it right, do it once. ;)

Good luck, stick with it.

[Landy Smurf]

i am going to get quality but even when buying quality you can stilll save money by shopping around.i might end up getting all my bearings at the singleton place now

[mildred]

Hi there, I started restoring my S1 , 1952 landie back in 1984 and completed it in 1992. It was a long haul. Back then there was no internet , and most of my parts came from England. Communication was by mail to Craddocks or Blanchard's. The turnaround took up to or well over eight weeks for most things. I still have their old catalogues, they still make interesting reading. With the internet you will find it much easier to find things very quickly. In those days there were lots of parts available in most dealers for series one's, but its getting much harder now to find what you require. Simply because the supply is running out, but on the bright side, there are many re- manufactured parts available that were not there back in the late eighty's. I did mine from a bare chassis (look at my folders of the restoration pics). If you have the time and money that's the way to start. If you need some advice, please ask me and I will try to assist if possible. good luck :D

[mildred]

got the tailshafts out and then the gearbox and bad news in a way the gearbox crossmember is rusted out beyond rapair.good news got the gearbox and transfer seperated and so far everything looks pretty good got all the transfer apart except for some of the barings and seal ill get them out when i have the ones to replace them.2 of the bearings had imprinted made in usa :o anyway having a rest and then hopefully gearbox but i doubt it i might just clean the transfer up.if anyone wants some photos(even though they are not that excitin) i am happy to get some and put them up
how about a pic of you, special like with super greasy hands reading the workshop manual? just a thought!

[Landy Smurf]

that sounds scary, i have not reely got any pics of me doing stuff because im by myself most of the time or when dad is with me his hands are dirty too.btw i have been printing manuals of the net so im making my own folders off as i go and im laminating them aswell so they dont get wrecked and even if they do for some reason i can replace them saved myself over $100 already money in my pocket to spend on other things.

[ashhhhh]

how about a pic of you, special like with super greasy hands reading the workshop manual?
that sounds scaryLMAO! Thats what I thought!

[mildred]

a few more pics and all that only cost me $4oo

:(
you mean to say that you bought the two landies for a total of $400-
wow that is a bargain, now you need 20000 to complete them to concourse standard? sighh:(

[Landy Smurf]

:(
you mean to say that you bought the two landies for a total of $400-
wow that is a bargain, now you need 20000 to complete them to concourse standard? sighh:(
yeah i thought $400 was a good buy

[Landy Smurf]

just got some cleaning done today ringin up for bearings and seals tomorrow

[Landy Smurf]

have been doing the rear diff at school about 3 more lessons and i will have it all pulled apart and cleaned. here are some more cleaning photos at home
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/129.jpg
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[Landy Smurf]

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[JDNSW]

Looks like that diff has had water in it!

John

[Landy Smurf]

you could say that

[mildred]

[quote=schmierer LR at singleton;1193255]https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1488.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1489.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1490.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1491.jpg so what happened to the pic of cleaning Tony, too blurry or to many pixels ? most of my pix have to many pixels to upload ;)

[mildred]

Hi there Tony, I read in an earlier post that giving your project a name for school was a good idea. When I started mine in 1984 , George and Mildred the English comedy series was all the rage. I named mine " Mildred ", after the actress in the series, she had very long teeth, hence the landie in my opinion was a bit long in the tooth, so the name stuck. My spare parts landie 80 inch, is called George and so on. Maybe you could choose a name after a cow or a horse. Dare I suggest after our esteemed prime minister " KEVIN " and the other one " RUDDY " :D did you finally pick a name ?
Peter

[Landy Smurf]

hey well at the moment i just call them the twins as i have 2 of them but since i am only doing one of them for a project i have not.

[Landy Smurf]

so since pulling the diff apart i have made a table up to keep things a bit neater and pulled the engine out of the chassis aswell as take the front and rear diffs out.had a bit of a look at the chassis and did a bit of scrathching cleaning grinding and cutting.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1240.jpg
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[Landy Smurf]

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[Landy Smurf]

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[Mudsloth]

You started off saying that you were going to do a Restoration
Then you asked where to get gearbox kits from
And some people told you where to get them from.
It's up to you. Going by the photos i can see at least $ 8000.00
or better to get it up to rego. Corn flake boxes make good gaskets too......

They do make great gaskets! I did that in a mates corolla, for the waterpump and all, 4 years ago and it's still going.

[Landy Smurf]

just so you guys know this is what my goal is for my major project
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1189.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

as you can see i need to replace the gearbox crossmember so i might make one at the tafe next to my school.they have a computer press there that remembers what angles to press at aswell as what order to do them so i thought while i was going if anyone else wanted one i could do that

[mildred]

just so you guys know this is what my goal is for my major project
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/1189.jpg
Hey this is a Awesome picture Tony, so don't give up, yours will look as good as this one one-day soon. BTW where did you find this pic, is it taken in the UK maybe?
Peter

[mildred]

as you can see i need to replace the gearbox cross-member so i might make one at the tafe next to my school.they have a computer press there that remembers what angles to press at aswell as what order to do them so i thought while i was going if anyone else wanted one I could do that

With that type of technology at your fingertips Tony, I would definitely make up 5 or more and sell them to finance your "Twins" project.
That if the instructor at the TAFE will allow you? Same with anything else that is a special one off item...
I did a 2 year , one night a week course for panel beating , hand tools and the same for vehicle refinishing (painting) at Wyong TAFE before the government closed it down.We were allowed to take in and work on (private) projects after the first year, you may be luckier with the rules?
BTW I notice in one pic that your were using a 90mm angle grinder on the chassis, with probably the standard thick blade? I have now found the same size 90 mm disc in a 1.5 mm thick. It gives a thin ,very neat cut, compared to the old standard disc's, and gets through the metal a lot quicker, and they only cost $1.00 each :D

[Landy Smurf]

hey yeah i would think that i would be able to go over to the tafe and bend it up so my plans are to get them all cut up and ready so i can bend them up as quick as i can.yeah i was thinking about making a few im sure someone would need one down the track somewhere. i wont get them perfect but being the crossmember that is is, it doesnt have to be spot on as long as the mount line up properly is the main thing.btw i just found that picture on google i think i typed in land rover series one chassis or something along those lines. ps thanks for the interest

[Landy Smurf]

i think i will now fabricate the crossmember now instead of using a press even though it will look a little different it really wont matter if anyone is interested i would still make you one. i would probably charge you the cost of the material plus $10 hour. it would probably take me about an hour i wouldnt think it would take me any longer

[Mick-Kelly]

Are you talking about an 80 inch crossmember (gearbox) if so i would be keen for one. Mine has a few character holes.

[Landy Smurf]

yes that is what i am talking about i will be getting mine cut out this weekend hopefully and draw up some plans and then i will price the material.does it bother you which way i make it

[chris1983rangie]

g'day,

one thing that i should have done with my gearbox crossmember on my 86" is make it a removable one, so just incase the gbox has to come out i can get it out without having to remove the engine.....!

your Chassi looks good, little bit of cutting and welding and youll have that thing looking smick!
in that last pic on the previous post showing all the rust,etc where bouts is that crack?


is your 80" a 53 model?

keep up the work mate!

cheers,

Chris;)

[Mick-Kelly]

Doesnt bother me how its made, bolt in is much easier than weld in for future gearbox work.

[Landy Smurf]

agreed there

[Landy Smurf]

just wondering what is the difference between a s1 swivel housing to a s2 or s3 swivel housing

[mildred]

just wondering what is the difference between a s1 swivel housing to a s2 or s3 swivel housing

Tony, I don't think that there is any difference between S1 and S2, because it was cheaper for me to replace the complete assembly rather than try to repair the hub with various parts. I bought 2 brand new S2 hubs complete (which were ex army stock) from 4 wheel drives in Melbourne and they fitted straight onto my axle. Still working perfectly with the standard 60 foot turning circle :)
Peter...

[Lost Landy]

Hi 1948 to 1953 swivel challice (chrome ball) are different to the later series 1s as they use the Tracta joints and not universeal joints.

Series 1s from 1954 have the same swivel challice as the series 2As and 3s

[mildred]

Hi 1948 to 1953 swivel chalice (chrome ball) are different to the later series 1s as they use the Tracta joints and not universal joints.

Series 1s from 1954 have the same swivel chalice as the series 2As and 3s

Yes mine were tractor joints from series 2 (Army issue) and they fitted straight onto my S1, so you are right again ooOH great master :whistling:

[Landy Smurf]

dag nammit i was hoping you guys were going to say "yeah they are all the same" but no.well i have 2 that are no good and 2 that are a bit iffy but i suppose iffy will have to do

[Landy Smurf]

got a bit more done to the chassis today as well as pulling another front diff apart except for the diff centre.i put a few more holes in specially into those that didnt have any holes, a good decision i think because there was a bit of flaky rust.also ground out where a sping has puntured the chassis.cut out the gearbox crossmember and pulled out most of the steering box
anyway ill let the photos do the rest of the speaking.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/871.jpg
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[Landy Smurf]

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[mildred]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/816.jpg

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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/820.jpgHi Tony,
A Word of warning when cutting out big chunks of metal on your chassis. Brace and or prop up the part before cutting out.If you don't there is a chance that you may weld in new metal and the chassis has sagged or is sitting in a slightly twisted position! (out of winding). If you level the work in hand both ways (FORWARD AND SIDEWAYS) then you can always return to that area and set it up as it was originally and carry on with the repairs. I hope that this makes sense to you? If you weld in a repair and the chassis is in a twisted position it will then always be like that for the rest of its life! ;)
Regards Peter

[Landy Smurf]

i only cleaned up the hole it was mainly like that(i squared it up if you get what i am saying) but i will go and prop it up

[mildred]

I only cleaned up the hole it was mainly like that(I squared it up if you get what I am saying) but I will go and prop it up

I under stand what you are saying Tony.
With a hole that size its a great opportunity to clean out all the loose rust inside. I did mine from the front using a length of conduit attached to the vacuum cleaner and afterwards sprayed the inside with a product called EXTROL. It totally seals the surface and is impervious to air. 2 coats is sufficient to seal the metal.
For spraying inside I used long length of hard 10mm PVC pipe attached to a degreasing type spray gun, bought a small brass spray head that had minute holes in the side around the circumference and also in the end. Also used it to also do the chassis rails on my old Daimler Mk2. It drips everywhere and if you catch it in tines it can be reused.
Good luck, keep up the good work :D
Peter

[Landy Smurf]

did some more cleaning and are about to get bearing numbers and seals and other things we need for the gearbox, transfer and front and rear diffs hopefully we will order them today also started paint stripping with not much success on the tub

[Landy Smurf]

big day again did not get exactly what i wanted to but still.cut the wing of the rear crossmember aswell as a bit more paint stripping to the tub i have it down pat now what the best way to get it off is unfortunately it was to dark to take any decennt photos even with flash on

[Landy Smurf]

also tried to get the water pump off but it will have to wait till next time as there are to many snapped bolts

[groucho]

also tried to get the water pump off but it will have to wait till next time as there are to many snapped bolts



Good luck with the water pump bolts
You are going to have to be good drilling those little suckers out
Best of all is finding BSF bolts to fit. Doable but good luck. Fiddly job..........

[Landy Smurf]

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[shaunh]

hey man
looks like yor doing a good job
just wondering what you found the best method of stripping the paint was, also what brand stripper are you using

[Landy Smurf]

hey man
looks like yor doing a good job
just wondering what you found the best method of stripping the paint was, also what brand stripper are you using
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/649.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/650.jpg
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my method is get that green scour cloth and put that on the sander go over the area with that for a while then put the paint stripper on and leave it there for about 15 minutes and then hit it with the sander for a while then just put paint stripper on the bits that are left.is alot better then a scraper and doesnt leave and scratches in it and using the cloth and sander brings it up nice and smooth and it can also go over bumpy stuff i gave the gal capping on top a go with just the sander and cloth and it brings it up awesome specially the rivets

[Landy Smurf]

hey man
looks like yor doing a good job
just wondering what you found the best method of stripping the paint was, also what brand stripper are you using
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/649.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/650.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/651.jpg
my method is get that green scour cloth and put that on the sander go over the area with that for a while then put the paint stripper on and leave it there for about 15 minutes and then hit it with the sander for a while then just put paint stripper on the bits that are left.is alot better then a scraper and doesnt leave and scratches in it and using the cloth and sander brings it up nice and smooth and it can also go over bumpy stuff i gave the gal capping on top a go with just the sander and cloth and it brings it up awesome specially the rivets

[Landy Smurf]

measured up all the pieces that i need to replace and put the rear cross member LHS wing on the computer it is nothing special but it is a start
i dont know how good and clear this will come up but ill try this only a 2d net plan.next step is 3d
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/639.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

a few more 2d drawings have exams on so i cant spend time on 3d stuff yet or making these better
tub tab on rear crossmember
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/605.jpg
gearbox crossmember(side on)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/606.jpg
shock absorber mount?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/607.jpg

[jakeslouw]

I just want to say I'm hugely impressed with a 17 (now 18 almost) year old tackling something like this.

I started at 16 with a Renault Dauphine and VW Beetles. No internet, no books, just trial and error. The learning curve is huge, but the sense of satisfaction is just as immense.

Go for it, we're all out here supporting you.

[Landy Smurf]

I just want to say I'm hugely impressed with a 17 (now 18 almost) year old tackling something like this.

I started at 16 with a Renault Dauphine and VW Beetles. No internet, no books, just trial and error. The learning curve is huge, but the sense of satisfaction is just as immense.

Go for it, we're all out here supporting you.
thanks man.im getting keener and keener.i just wish i started this project a few months earlier so i would know i would finish it for sure.i have exams this week and then next week ill be flat out like a lizard drinking trying to get all these made up,most of it i should be able to make from scrap but i think for the gearbox crossmember i will have to buy some.even though these drawings still need lots of work at least if you need to copy that all the dimensions are there.ordering parts for gearbox transfercase and diffs tomorrow arvo excited

[Landy Smurf]

should be making up gearbox crossmember and wings next week,my aim is to have the chassis painted up by the end of the holidays.what spray equipment do you reccomend

[Landy Smurf]

unfortunately my parts did not come in:(
so instead i got started on the engine,not sure how good it is gonna be,if it no good my s3 engine is going in:(
also dismantled another diff centre as the other one the carrier was not to crash hot but this one is good anyway some photos

[Landy Smurf]

sorry about some of the photos quality
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i did a video as well but i have worked out how to get that up yet:angel:

[Landy Smurf]

View My Video (http://tinypic.com/m/9k6wyr/2)

[Landy Smurf]

User Media - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting (http://tinypic.com/m/9k6wyr/2)
just practising with the video

[Landy Smurf]

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[Landy Smurf]

i got some 3mm plate steel yesterday 1.2x1.2 for $50.pretty happy about that anyway this is what i got done with it today at school and tafe
marked up the rear crossmember wings
marked up the gearbox crossmember
cut them out using a guillotine
then folded up the crossmember without putting the 2 major angle in it
cut out the net for the wings and ground and filed them up ready anyway here is a few photos

[Landy Smurf]

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[Landy Smurf]

it cost me about $20 to make up everything.unfortunately i didnt and wont get the chance to make others up for people.

[Landy Smurf]

here is the wings that i got done today i still need to weld the backplate to it aswell as the supporting brace.also i should get the gearbox crossmember done this weekend as well as getting the chassis ready to paint if not painted
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1706.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1707.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

hey just wondering how much paint is required for the chassis.also does it need to be primed or just where i have welded?
thanks tony

[Landy Smurf]

well another long day for not much progress but i finally got the wings on the rear crossmember not quite as good as i had hoped but it wil have to do for now.i also got the best bumper i have off a chaasis
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[Landy Smurf]

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[Landy Smurf]

as you can see some of the welds are bit ordinary i got better welds as a played around with the settings.it pays to practice with the settings first on a bit of scrap before going right into it.owell they still grind up alright ;)

[mildred]

hi Tony,
great pictures, but please take heed of this warning:In 2 pics I saw you welding totally unprotected. You even seem to have lost your head of hair?
In TAFE you would have been sent outside for 10 mins to reflect. :no2:
1: Do not have any skin exposed to the arc. This means even on a very hot day, you wear jeans or overalls covering all your legs etc.
2: No shorts EVER. Your arms are to be covered with long sleeves at all times.
3: Wear a shirt with a collar that can be buttoned up, no neck cleavage.
4: The arc is the same as the sun, but 100 time stronger, so you would be (no hair and freckles etc) very venerable to arc damage.
So cover up and get on with the job in complete safety...
Hey you are doing a great job and have a following that you-tube would be envious of, so just follow the basic rules and live to enjoy your restoration.
Arc induced melanomas are dreadful and difficult to overcome. ;) I know because I am in that situation right now.......
I was going to send this to you via PM (private message) but thought that it is serious enough to apply to everyone on here, doing restorations and lots of welding.
I hope that you don't mind Tony?
Tata 4 now
Peter

[Landy Smurf]

no problems peter
i had already got dressed in my old clothes before going up to the shed and i did not want to get changed just to do some weldin but in future i will thanks

[mildred]

as you can see some of the welds are bit ordinary i got better welds as a played around with the settings.it pays to practice with the settings first on a bit of scrap before going right into it.O-well they still grind up all right ;)

Hi Tony again,
If you can afford it, get one of those automatic darkening welding helmets. I had one like yours for years and kept on getting a FLASH now and then. Arc eyes is a nuisance to say the least. They are marvellous and save getting a flash...just a thought
cheapest is about $85 at Rocket tools Taree, but must be others out there for you..
Tata
Peter

[Landy Smurf]

i will be doing on the weldin this weekend so i wont need one for this project but for sure i will get one in the future

[mildred]

i will be doing on the welding this weekend so i wont need one for this project but for sure i will get one in the future
Yes Tony that is OK,
At TAFE we only had those flip up and flip down types , rather like driving a model T on the free-way. Just give a hint for your Birthday. buy the very best that you can afford and it will last you for many years.
BTW the little green dot means that you and I are on at the same time....
never knew that . ;) ooooooooh that is orgasmic? or something?:Rolling:

[Tote]

hey just wondering how much paint is required for the chassis.also does it need to be primed or just where i have welded?
thanks tony

I'm giving serious consideration to doing my chassis with spray packs of epoxy based paint. Works out a bit dearer than a compressor and enamel at about $13 a can but it sticks a lot better too and saves on surface prep. I've got antenna mounts etc sprayed with it that have been in the weather for 10 years and still no sign of rust.

Regards,
Tote

[Landy Smurf]

you learn something new everyday.at this stage my bday pressents are going to be parts for my s1

[Landy Smurf]

I'm giving serious consideration to doing my chassis with spray packs of epoxy based paint. Works out a bit dearer than a compressor and enamel at about $13 a can but it sticks a lot better too and saves on surface prep. I've got antenna mounts etc sprayed with it that have been in the weather for 10 years and still no sign of rust.

Regards,
Tote
oh ok but how many cans do you think you will need for the chassis.my dad found some suitable paint that was $20 for a litre or $60 for 4litres

[mildred]

I'm giving serious consideration to doing my chassis with spray packs of epoxy based paint. Works out a bit dearer than a compressor and enamel at about $13 a can but it sticks a lot better too and saves on surface prep. I've got antenna mounts etc sprayed with it that have been in the weather for 10 years and still no sign of rust.

Regards,
Tote

There is absolutely no substitute for painting preparation. Using spray can packs will give you a very sore index finger and if you get an itchy nose well ..It will take at least double the amount of cans that you think it will.
antenna mounts are a lot smaller than full size land rover chassis. Your finger sprayed with epoxy enamel and sticking up in the atmosphere would last a long time, but how long would you last? how long would you and your land rover chassis stuck up in the heavens last if coated in one very thin, yes very thin, coat of the favourite epoxy enamel at the local super-cheap? saving on surface prep is one thing but saving on your reputation is another.
Buy a compressor and a spray gun , go to TEC , learn how to use it and go for gold :thumbsup:

[Tote]

I used 2 cans to do an Iron bed for our youngest over Christmas and there was a lot of wastage from that as you are spraying such a small area. So I reckon no more than 5 cans to do a chassis. I used a red oxide primer as well on the bed after stripping it as best I could.
Regards,
Tote

[Landy Smurf]

i already have all the spraying gear so ill stick with that plus that is also another good skill to show in my port folio for this project

[mildred]

I used 2 cans to do an Iron bed for our youngest over Christmas and there was a lot of wastage from that as you are spraying such a small area. So I reckon no more than 5 cans to do a chassis. I used a red oxide primer as well on the bed after stripping it as best I could.
Regards,
Tote
hey there Tote

use POR15 its brush-able, self levelling and gives a professional finish every time.

PPC - POR 15® Rust Preventive Paint (http://www.ppcco.com.au/prevention.htm)

beats using a compressor and spray gun. Just find a paint
brush and go for GOLD use this link to find your pot of gold , and this applies to you Tony
Tata
Peter

[mildred]

i already have all the spraying gear so ill stick with that plus that is also another good skill to show in my port folio for this project

With all these skills being learnt and absorbed Tony , We think that Kevin is shaking at the knees and Tony Abbot is dead.
If you want extra support I guess that many warriors on here would give you a glowing resume at a drop of a hat....
don't stop, keep going, the lodge is yours one day....:DBTW that POR 15 stuff is very good on chassis

[Landy Smurf]

thats it
it is about learning new skills

[mildred]

that's it
it is about learning new skills
Yes it is, so go and buy some POR15 then?

[Landy Smurf]

it looks like good stuff.how much would it cost to do the chassis with that aswell

[Landy Smurf]

well another not very successful day.ended up bringin the chassis back inside the shed as the wind was stuffing up the welds.still not very happy with the rear crossmember, cut out a bit of rust in the clutch croosmember and welded a bit of plate in there, cut out and ground/filed up the 2 brackets where the tailgate hinges go through and had ago straighting the bumper bar oh and ross aka 130man stopped in:D and we had a great chat and he gave me some great reading material its always good when you meet up with a fellow aulronian:D
well even though things are going slow at the moment i think things are about to pick up ;)

[Landy Smurf]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1633.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1634.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1635.jpg
ill get some more better photos tomorrow

[mildred]

it looks like good stuff.how much would it cost to do the chassis with that as well

Tony,
the paint cost $88 for 1 litre and you need thinners to. You have to prep it using metal ready and marine clean. both are excellent products, I have used them and still have some in my shed .If you buy all the materials, its going to cost you more than your pocket money for 2 years ;).

If you just want to get on with the job and not wait for deliveries etc, and you already have the spray equipment, 4 litres of spray enamel and some enamel add (hardener) added to the mix and away you go.
You haven't mentioned the colour that you are going to paint the chassis? If black, the 4 litre can, mixed at the standard 60/40 ratio would make the equivalent of 10 litres mixed. That is a useful colour for many other things on the land rover, the smaller bits and pieces. I painted mine green.

If using enamel add, wear gloves, and a spray respirator (a good quality one),the stuff is essentially making your basic enamel into 2 PAC and its carcinogenic, like all the paints that you are going to use shortly. So be aware and be very careful when mixing. New metal needs to be primed and the rest needs primer surfacer/ undercoat, then the topcoats. I gave mine at least 2, 3 is better if you have enough paint left in the can.
Don't be in a rush to get stuff finished , just take your time and aim for perfection, after all ,what are you going to do with the time you saved? put it in wheelie bin? :p
Tata Peter
BTW what type of camera are you using, they are excellent photographs and the video was amazing, especially the one DAD H.P. scene.

[Landy Smurf]

Tony,
the paint cost $88 for 1 litre and you need thinners to. You have to prep it using metal ready and marine clean. both are excellent products, I have used them and still have some in my shed .If you buy all the materials, its going to cost you more than your pocket money for 2 years ;).

If you just want to get on with the job and not wait for deliveries etc, and you already have the spray equipment, 4 litres of spray enamel and some enamel add (hardener) added to the mix and away you go.
You haven't mentioned the colour that you are going to paint the chassis? If black, the 4 litre can, mixed at the standard 60/40 ratio would make the equivalent of 10 litres mixed. That is a useful colour for many other things on the land rover, the smaller bits and pieces. I painted mine green.

If using enamel add, wear gloves, and a spray respirator (a good quality one),the stuff is essentially making your basic enamel into 2 PAC and its carcinogenic, like all the paints that you are going to use shortly. So be aware and be very careful when mixing. New metal needs to be primed and the rest needs primer surfacer/ undercoat, then the topcoats. I gave mine at least 2, 3 is better if you have enough paint left in the can.
Don't be in a rush to get stuff finished , just take your time and aim for perfection, after all ,what are you going to do with the time you saved? put it in wheelie bin? :p
Tata Peter
BTW what type of camera are you using, they are excellent photographs and the video was amazing, especially the one DAD H.P. scene.

hey thanks for the information yes i am painting the chassis black the camera is just a cheap something

[Landy Smurf]

so i am assuming that you can use the same paint for the chassis as the diffs if so how much black paint do you think i will need to buy.anyway back into the chassis again today its better now that i have had a day away from it

[mildred]

so i am assuming that you can use the same paint for the chassis as the diffs if so how much black paint do you think i will need to buy.anyway back into the chassis again today its better now that i have had a day away from it

Tony,
4 litres of enamel and it will do diffs and anything made of metal.
:Use fast enamel thinners (dries faster in winter conditions) 4 litres,
:use general purpose thinners for cleaning up gun etc and use on warm days, if you wish for general painting.
Aluminium needs special preparation
: bare Aluminium scuff with metho with nylon scouring pad and then etch prime with aluminium etch primer. (Thin coat) and then primer surfacer /undercoats.
:top coats
Its good to have a break when doing restorations and do another part and come back to it later. Sometimes you are working to close to the project and cant see an obvious fault until you take the time to stand back and have a look.
Peter

[Landy Smurf]

well so far nothing has gone to plan and my aim of having the gearbox, transfer and the chassis done and painted by the end of the holidays is not looking good so instead of going out drinking for my 18th i came home and went to bed early so i can try and get the chassis ready to paint because i am picking up the parts for gearbox and transfer tomorrow afternoon and there are still a few things i have to get like shims but have to wait :(

[Landy Smurf]

hey here are photos from last weekend and today the welder(machine that is) was working alot better today still not as much as wanted done but i have to fuse weld the gearbox crossmember so i thought instead of working all night ill just do a bit more another day.so far happy with most of the chassis except for the rear crossmember.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1160.jpg
there were a few dints and the welds looked crap so i just cant it out and put a new bit of plate in instead
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1161.jpg
looking up the chassis where i just cut
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1162.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1163.jpg
used the wire wheel to get rid of the paint and bring it back to bare metal just wondering will i have to bring it back to bare metal to paint/prime?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1164.jpg
putting in the angles for folding up the gearbox crossmember
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1165.jpg
had to leave a gap the same thickness as the material so it will fold up equally
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1166.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1167.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1168.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1169.jpg
the weld wasnt straight but it was still good
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1170.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1171.jpg
the gearbox crossmember all welded up on the outside was very happy with how it turned out
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1172.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1173.jpg
good welds:D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1174.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1175.jpg/IMG]

[Mick-Kelly]

Good work, keep it up.

[Landy Smurf]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1154.jpg
you might have to look back at some of the photos to see what parts i have welded but this is the front spring hanger
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1155.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1156.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1157.jpg
the back of the piece welded in the front spring hanger
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1158.jpg
had trouble welding here as the paint wasnt helping as well as the chassis wall was a little bent even though i straighten it a bit oh and the light well of it made it really hard for the first bit untill i got a fluro and stuck it behind me
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1159.jpg
i thought it wouldnt hurt to add a bit of weld on the braces for the rear crossmember
anyway so next time my goal is to grind the welds up so they are very nice and original looking and to put the bottom bit of plate on and fuse weld it.
anyway i hope you like the pics if any of you need any infor about it specially the crossmember ie. dimensions and angles just ask and i shall deliver :D

[The ho har's]

Dong a great job Tony...keep up the good work:D

Mrs hh:angel:

[Tote]

I reckon the welder (person) is getting better as well :D
Nice Job,
Regards,
Tote

[Landy Smurf]

i got my parts here yesterday and i went through the order and the some it is a bit odd and he said he was going to give me a 10% discount because i was a student well that didnt happen oh well at least they are finally here.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/1027.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

having issues with the parts i ordered prices are not matching up and it seems like they have charged us about $40-$100 to much compared to their catalogue that we got off them about 3 weeks ago.it seems that they have left some parts out and instead of a transfer gasket kit we got some small steel gasket i priced the postage for every detail and it said on the website it should cost $17.80 but they charged $32.i was expecting when i order gearbox and transfer kits that the kits would be complete with all the parts in one big bag(one for the gearbox and one for the transfer)so we have bits everywhere trying to work out what is what.oh and the other thing that is bugging me is they charged us for 9 pinion oil seals and we only have 2 at the most(thats because we only have 2 oil seals the same)frustration is kicking in:mad:

[shaunh]

having issues with the parts i ordered prices are not matching up and it seems like they have charged us about $40-$100 to much compared to their catalogue that we got off them about 3 weeks ago.it seems that they have left some parts out and instead of a transfer gasket kit we got some small steel gasket i priced the postage for every detail and it said on the website it should cost $17.80 but they charged $32.i was expecting when i order gearbox and transfer kits that the kits would be complete with all the parts in one big bag(one for the gearbox and one for the transfer)so we have bits everywhere trying to work out what is what.oh and the other thing that is bugging me is they charged us for 9 pinion oil seals and we only have 2 at the most(thats because we only have 2 oil seals the same)frustration is kicking in:mad:

if i were you id be ringing them up first thing in the morning to sort that **** out

[Landy Smurf]

if i were you id be ringing them up first thing in the morning to sort that **** out
first thing when i wake up is going through it once again than ringing them i ordered these about 3 weeks ago so not only did i have to wait alot longer but for something to be missing or priced wrongly = extra ****ed off

[Landy Smurf]

got all the main casing clean now.i had a bit of an incident with fuel today after filling the spray gun up when i put the fuel drum down it splashed me in the face so i had to quickly run down to the house and wash my eyes out since i could hardly see.:eek: anyway should have some photos by the end of the day

[Tote]

Yep, petrol is nasty stuff these days, I had a fuel pump squirt me in the eye the other week and it was most unpleasant, could not see and had to stumble to the tank. Probably you should be washing parts with solvent or kero though, cuts the nasties you are breathing in.

Regards,
Tote

[Landy Smurf]

hey i am having a problem with the distamce sleeve on the mainshaft when i put 2nd gear and 3rd gear where they are suppose to 2nd gear is extremely tight and only turns with alot of force and 3rd gear has a bit of play in it but when i swap them over they are perfect but the lengths are different has any body experienced this before or have any suggestions of what to do

[Landy Smurf]

some gearbox/transfer photos
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/955.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/956.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/957.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/958.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/959.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/960.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/961.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/962.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/946.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/947.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/948.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/949.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/950.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/951.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/952.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/953.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

just a few more photos
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/941.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/942.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/943.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/944.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/945.jpg
well the gearbox and transfer wont be together by the end of the holidays and the chassis wont be fully repaired and painted so my 3 goals wont be met which is making this project so much harder since i only have about 3 months left:(

[Landy Smurf]

well the gearbox and transfer still isnt together dad took the mainshaft to derek at singleton automotives and will be getting the thrust washer saturday.so i got a bit of painting in today to make me feel better about progress.
i need to put another coat on the d-lamp i did it in the dark and i missed a few spots.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/890.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/891.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/892.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/893.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/894.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/895.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/896.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/897.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/898.jpg

[mildred]

Hey Tony,
Don't take NO for an answer with regard to the 10% student discount! If they promised it to you, contact the principle of the business, the general manage or similar. I always go for the top person first off. Probably best to use the phone in person , follow up with emails and phone again the next day and so on. The squeaky gate gets the most oil (Henry Royce of RR fame).If all else fails.......use your father to get into the act and use DAD-POWER.
You are doing a great job and many a lessor person would have given up months ago.
Its always exciting when new parts arrive and unwrapping is almost as good as Christmas, as a small boy. Enjoy every moment .
make sure that that chassis is out of winding when welding bits in, just use 2 parallel timbers and get down and sight them in relation to one another and you will soon see if it is right.
Peter

[groucho]

It's good to see they supplied a double sealed bearing.
That will stop oil transfer from G/box to T/c.
Doing good . Yes it takes time...........

[Landy Smurf]

did a little bit more today just one question in the clutch thow out should there be a spring

[groucho]

did a little bit more today just one question in the clutch thow out should there be a spring

NO sping inside only on the arm outside......

[Landy Smurf]

thanks one book i had there was a spring the other i had it didnt.did they ever have a spring in the clutch throwout i wonder otherwise i have no idea where they got that idea from

[shaunh]

been watching this thing
it's coming along real nice
its a credit to you and all your hard work:spudnikhattip:
i hope to start ripping into mine real soon
just gotta finish my god damn hilux. damn toyotas <_<

[Landy Smurf]

i like how you started off but ill pretend you didnt say that last line.but anyway thanks for the support it makes all that much more better

[RobHay]

...and use punctuation.;)


Only gagging schmierer LR at singleton, you will get lots of help and info here - all we ask is LOTS OF PHOTOs.

You also might like to have a look here:

Trans Tasman Land Rover Series 1 Register Forum &bull; Index page (http://transtasmanseries1.com/forum/index.php)

and here:

Home (http://www.lrsoc.com/forum/index.php?action=pages)



Good luck - I only wish I'd started when I was 17!


Oh C'mon....he is only 17....they didn't teach him punctuation at school along with Australian History, the meaning of the Aussie Flag and .....Oh !!!! I am ranting ...... sorry ! I creep back into my hole now ;)

[Landy Smurf]

LOL
im 18 now.i find that when i am talking to my friends on msn or facebook and posting on here at the same time i don't use punctuation because i am to busy typing in chat lingo.

[Sleepy]

LOL
im 18 now.i find that when i am talking to my friends on msn or facebook and posting on here at the same time i don't use punctuation because i am to busy typing in chat lingo.

That's ok Tony, that was an old quote that RobHay has dug out. My respect for your workmanship has far outweighed my want for punctuation.
Keep up the good work!

[Landy Smurf]

yeah i had to read that a few times and then it clicked that was my from the beginning

[shaunh]

i like how you started off but ill pretend you didnt say that last line.but anyway thanks for the support it makes all that much more better

nothing wrong with an old hilux but ill be a landy man for life
started out when i was a little one
in the same landy i have today!

[Landy Smurf]

now thats a nice story right there(the landy that is) im only joking about the toyota thing dont tell anyone this but i nearly bought and old 45 series ex fire for about 2k if i had my time again i would probably have bought that instead of my s3 ute.

[shaunh]

now thats a nice story right there(the landy that is) im only joking about the toyota thing dont tell anyone this but i nearly bought and old 45 series ex fire for about 2k if i had my time again i would probably have bought that instead of my s3 ute.

hahaha my old farm was full of old series utes and wagons
i think im cheating on toyotas and landrovers
i might be getting a job at nissan:o shhhhhh

[Landy Smurf]

it is ok i wont tell anyone.at least you will have a broader range of vehicles i have really only worked on land rovers and toyotas(mainly mine ones) i never want to see another toyota vehicle after that experience

[shaunh]

it is ok i wont tell anyone.at least you will have a broader range of vehicles i have really only worked on land rovers and toyotas(mainly mine ones) i never want to see another toyota vehicle after that experience

broad range you got that right
ive worked for mercedes i never ever want to work on one of them piles of luxury ****
as for toyotas i know em like the back of my hand my hilux was a body off resto ground up man some people are so dodgy i thought i was getting a good deal boy was i wrong, never look at a car at night

[shaunh]

got any more done mate
loving this build

[Landy Smurf]

no i have been away busy busy busy,went to the caravan and camping show today yesterday dad was away moving a cravan for my brother and my brother had the parts that i needed to continue and saturday my friends took me for a drive and friday i was checking out a s1 that i should be buying

[shaunh]

sounds good
pics of said S1? remember:rulez::D

[Landy Smurf]

i will when/if it comes here

[Landy Smurf]

well after a little break off from the gearbox we got stuck into it again,everything went fairly well with the gearbox and it is together and then the transfer and out came the cursing so we decided to call it a day

[Landy Smurf]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/356.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/357.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/358.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/359.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/360.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/361.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/362.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/363.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

i will get some better more complete photos tomorrow

[mildred]

well after a little break off from the gearbox we got stuck into it again,everything went fairly well with the gearbox and it is together and then the transfer and out came the cursing so we decided to call it a day

been there, done that..... 10/10 for perseverance and give Dad a pat on the back for putting up with you. and 12/10 for you putting up with your Dad :bangin: BTW great pictures of the gear box , yahhoooooooooooooooo


I think that your father is very proud of what you have archived and he is one in a thousand ....more pictures needed Tony, hosta la vista....

Peter

[Landy Smurf]

thanks peter i will certainly get more photos tomorrow should have it all together tomorrow,fingers crossed

[mildred]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/356.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/357.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/358.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/359.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/360.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/361.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/362.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/363.jpgdon't for get the gear-stick , it has to go in now...pic 8

[Landy Smurf]

yes have it all painted up ready to go in

[mildred]

thanks peter i will certainly get more photos tomorrow should have it all together tomorrow,fingers crossed
Hi Tony
my gearbox is jumping out of second, third is OK and the others, so your rebuild is of great interest to me. I fixed the said problem back in 1998 via Peter Haylock at 4x4 Kotara but I guess I need his assistance again to replace the 20cent spring that has broken? You will be so proud when it is all finished, all the stress and heartache will fade away , so savour every moment ....
Peter :clap2:

PS : left a message for peter Haylock , Newcastle 4X4, to phone me with regard to the broken spring. He is phoning this evening, so I will tell you about the "spring" afterwards

[Landy Smurf]

where is the spring

[mildred]

where is the spring
on the first lay-shaft
you are now the land rover expert in gearboxes of series ones so prepare your self for requests of the third kind.
encounters of the third layshalft..
requests of thrust bearings...
and it gets worse....OmG
dare I say it.......................... circlips on your big end
(collapse on the floor in a screaming heap)

[Landy Smurf]

the only spring i can think of is a spring ring if it is not that i cant think of it

[mildred]

the only spring i can think of is a spring ring if it is not that i cant think of it
OK I will ask Peter Haylock, he is the master in this matter...

[Landy Smurf]

ok.i am interested to know what this spring is

[JDNSW]

.....
you are now the land rover expert in gearboxes of series ones so prepare your self for requests of the third kind.
........


Since the gearbox was introduced on Rover cars in 1932, and remained in use until the end of Series 2a production with only minor changes, you are an expert on a lot more than Series 1 boxes. For that matter, you would find the Series 3 boxes pretty familiar as well.

Your perseverance and ability are to be admired, and your family and teachers should rightly be proud of you.

John

[Landy Smurf]

thanks mate yeah i have a s3 gearbox here that we pulled apart because of a broken mainshaft and were thinking how there is buggere all change.we were using a s2/s2A manual for alot of the rebuild

[Landy Smurf]

note to self dont work on gearbox when dad is angry,we have a lot of undoing to do:(

[mildred]

note to self dont work on gearbox when dad is angry,we have a lot of undoing to do:(

are you undoing it to look for the elusive broken spring that I have? or the 5/8 shifter missing in the workshop? :eek:

[Landy Smurf]

lol no just stuffing up and leaving bits out or not doing things in the right order

[Landy Smurf]

here are some photos of today nearly finished:)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/310.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/311.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/312.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/313.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/314.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/315.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/1502.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/316.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/317.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/318.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/319.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/320.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/306.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/307.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/308.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/309.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

sorry for those photos of the intermediate shaft but it was showing that it was marked so i am replacing it so once i have done that its bolt up time

[mildred]

Tony,
everything looks so sparkling clean and shiny, better stay away from those muddy puddles that are notably common about Singleton area. Gearboxes attract mud like bees to honey :burnrubber:

[Landy Smurf]

hehe you dug up a good photo there,they just didnt have the right vehicle

[mildred]

hehe you dug up a good photo there,they just didn't have the right vehicle

your friends needed waders and a snorkel on the car, discovery/defender style.
Did they ever get out of that mess? :o
Peter

[Landy Smurf]

yeah they did the blue frontera was my brother shame on him but it was a heaps good car until prang

[The ho har's]

Tony, we take our hat off to you....my girls aren't interested in Landy's...your dad should be very proud of the work you have done restoring your'e Landy...when next we meet we will have lots to talk about;)


Mrs hh:angel:

[Landy Smurf]

thats for sure the talking that is,we will have a new family member here next week

[mildred]

yeah they did the blue frontera was my brother shame on him but it was a heaps good car until prang

its just a rumour, but around singleton, trees jump out and attack cars, true or false :p

[mildred]

Tony, we take our hat off to you....my girls aren't interested in Landy's...your dad should be very proud of the work you have done restoring your'e Landy...when next we meet we will have lots to talk about;)


Mrs hh:angel:


you have 11 cars? OMG :eek:

[Landy Smurf]

its just a rumour, but around singleton, trees jump out and attack cars, true or false :p
in some parts they do we also have drop bears

[The ho har's]

you have 11 cars? OMG :eek:

Yes I do and most will be restored others are for wrecking the ones in my sig pic are keepers the others I will decide besides the military ones and yes we have meet Tony a very nice young man:D

Ms hh:angel:

PS we we are storing another 5 here for other people:D

[mildred]

in some parts they do we also have drop bears

Tony ,
you just posted that ,because you knew that I would ask what are "Dropbears" are --unquote.

what is your screen saver? a ferosa in muddy waters?
mine is the Ferrari Californian (red one)
can you guess personality via the persons screen-saver?
just a thought
how about a challenge:
everyone reveal there screen saver? :p

[Landy Smurf]

do you remember the bundy rum ads when they are camping and the guys tell the foreign backpackers to watch out for the drop bears.my screen saver at the moment is of a kelpie x something that turned up here one day.i think you can guess personality to an extent