fog lamps

[sheckster]

hi people,

been up to montville today and it was raining up there, never needed the fog lamps until today, funny thing is, I didn't know how to turn it on!, wife had to read the manual while we were drving! :D, anyway, to cut long story short, my fog lamps seems to be broken (no green light on dash) when I pull the swith to correct position (2), the rear fog lights works though (3). Any ideas?, not really crash hot on bringing it to the dealer just for fog lights, but will ofcourse do if it's really busted.

Disco SE (2007)

thanks.

[Drover]

Hey Sheckster,

I think it is time to call the dealer.

If your head lights are on parkers or above and you pull the light switch out one notch, your fog lights should illuminate, along with the green indicator on the dash.

Any deviation from this would suggest a fault.

I would check to see if the lights are working first and not just a problem with with the indicator. They don't make much difference, so check first.

Cheers
Grant.

[sheckster]

Hey Sheckster,

I think it is time to call the dealer.

If your head lights are on parkers or above and you pull the light switch out one notch, your fog lights should illuminate, along with the green indicator on the dash.

Any deviation from this would suggest a fault.

I would check to see if the lights are working first and not just a problem with with the indicator. They don't make much difference, so check first.

Cheers
Grant.

hey drover,

Thanks for that, I thought as much. Both not working, fog lights not working and no indicator on the dash either, that's when the switch is pulled up one notch and the head lights on (even tried with parkers on). annoying more than anything since, as previously stated, never neaded to fogs before and the time I wanted to use it, it's gone awol on me.

cheers

[catweasel]

try checking fuse 38 in the CJB. there has been chaffing issues with the wiring in the bumper.

[CaverD3]

Check the fuse first but there have been some issues with the fog light harness rubbing somewhere.

[Tombie]

Maybe your D3 is aware that using Fog Lights when theres no Fog is illegal and wanted to save you a fine and prevent frustration to oncoming traffic...

:angel::wasntme:

[CaverD3]

Maybe your D3 is aware that using Fog Lights when theres no Fog is illegal and wanted to save you a fine and prevent frustration to oncoming traffic...

:angel::wasntme:

****es me off too. But cops rarely fine anyone, however:



been up to montville today and it was raining up there, never needed the fog lamps until today, funny thing is, I didn't know how to turn it on!, wife had to read the manual while we were drving! :D,

[CaverD3]

Apparently I used a naughty swear word. :eek: :confused:

[sheckster]

Maybe your D3 is aware that using Fog Lights when theres no Fog is illegal and wanted to save you a fine and prevent frustration to oncoming traffic...

:angel::wasntme:

umm...yeah, that's why I wanted use them, 'coz there was fog ;),. anyway, off to check the fuse box now.

[Tombie]

umm...yeah, that's why I wanted use them, 'coz there was fog ;),. anyway, off to check the fuse box now.

Good luck with the fuse box...


But for the record, you said rain, not fog :p

[CaverD3]

Rain must have been bad for him to feel he needed to use them.

FTR:

Road Users Handbook Sec1 144

Fog lights
Front and rear fog lights must only be used in fog or rain, or when
conditions such as smoke and dust limit your vision. It is a legal
requirement that once conditions improve and you can see more clearly,
the front and rear fog lights are switched off.
If your vehicle is not fitted with fog lights you may use your headlights
during the day in these adverse conditions.

;)

[Hymie]

[QUOTE=CaverD3;954420]Rain must have been bad for him to feel he needed to use them.

FTR:

Road Users Handbook Sec1 144

Fog lights
Front and rear fog lights must only be used in fog or rain, or when
conditions such as smoke and dust limit your vision. It is a legal
requirement that once conditions improve and you can see more clearly,
the front and rear fog lights are switched off.
If your vehicle is not fitted with fog lights you may use your headlights
during the day in these adverse conditions.

;)[/Q

Thats a badly worded bit legal explanation.
So can you turn your headlights on during the day if conditions are not adverse?

[CaverD3]

This might clarify things:

AUSTRALIAN ROAD RULES - REG 217
217—Using fog lights

(1) The driver of a vehicle fitted with front fog lights or rear fog lights must not operate the fog lights unless the driver is driving in fog or other hazardous weather conditions causing reduced visibility.


Offence provision.

(2) In this rule:


"front fog light" means a light (other than a headlight) fitted to the front of a vehicle to improve illumination of the road in fog, snowfall, heavy rain or dust clouds.


"rear fog light" means a light (other than a brake light, a tail light, a number plate light or a reversing light) fitted to the rear of a vehicle to make the vehicle more easily visible from the rear in fog, snowfall,

[sheckster]

Good luck with the fuse box..

But for the record, you said rain, not fog :p


Great news for me!, it was a blown fuse!, thanks gents, you saved me a trip down to the dealers. Perhaps it's me, but they could've placed the fuse box somewhere more accessible where it is. I dropped the fuse twizer and a fuse while trying to test the fogs lamps. It took me forever to fish them out.

Anyway, problem solved.

and yup, fog rolled (while raining) and while driving down the mountain.


cheers!

[CaverD3]

I would still have a look at the loom for the cause though.

[sheckster]

I would still have a look at the loom for the cause though.

True, I should and will. Do you know where abouts it would be or where I would start looking?

thanks again.

[CaverD3]

I have an ARB bar so not sure how you would do it with an OEM.
If you can get to look behind the bumper, follow the leads from each fog light back into the body. I think the pinch point was where it went into the body?
If you can see where the problem is or it does it again get the dealer to fix (assuming it is under warranty)

[sheckster]

I have an ARB bar so not sure how you would do it with an OEM.
If you can get to look behind the bumper, follow the leads from each fog light back into the body. I think the pinch point was where it went into the body?
If you can see where the problem is or it does it again get the dealer to fix (assuming it is under warranty)

yup, it's still under warranty, will check though. I just borrowed the fuse for the aux power (3rd row seat) so the fog lamps will work, but if there's a chaffing issue then no doubt that it will fail as well.

[hook]

So now that you have checked your fuse.
Try the fog light again, to see if the fuse blows.

[sheckster]

So now that you have checked your fuse.
Try the fog light again, to see if the fuse blows.

I tested it, and fog lights worked. I only tried a couple of times though and not for very long, so i might go for a drive and since it's raining and darker than usual I'm sure it's fine to use the fog lights (with the head lights off)

[sheckster]

latest update.

Went out for a drive, had the fog lights on for a little while, turned it off then on after a sometime, not working anymore, safe to say the fuse is blown and that there's definitely rubbing somewhere. I guess I'll be dropping by the dealer afterall. So now, I'm without fog lights and aux power on the 3rd row.

Will post what happens after visit to dealer.

[sheckster]

not one to promote disco3.co.uk, but searched my issue there, and looks like it's a known issue.

some pics here

Fog lights harness chaffing pics (http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1453&pos=0)


How to fix (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic27135.html?highlight=front+fog+lights)

but would still take to dealer as it's under warranty.

hope this can be a reference to someone else who may experience the same symptoms

[CaverD3]

not one to promote disco3.co.uk,

Why not? I promote AULRO on disco3.co.uk. ;)

Cross-pollination is good.:D

Should be an easy quick fix.