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maggsie
18th April 2009, 02:17 PM
Notwithstanding the well documented problems with the new Defender, what is the feeling amongst the owners of these vehicles in regard to:

Build quality
Reliability
Towing ability
Overall satisfaction
Would you buy one again given the knowledge you have gained from your current vehicle.

regards
Maggsie

as0l0
18th April 2009, 03:54 PM
the only other thing i'd consider is the 3 seater 70 series troop carrier. i'd still probably walk away with the Defender though.

dmdigital
18th April 2009, 04:09 PM
Build quality - Nothing significant in the way of problems and certainly better than the Land Crusier Workmates we have around work.
Reliability - Nothing has gone wrong - see previous answer.
Towing ability - Fantasic!!!!!!!!!:):):):):)
Overall satisfaction - Very pleased.
Yes I'd buy one again. The heating and A/C work brilliantly, the seats are very comfortable (but that is always a personal thing). Initially I was annoyed at the low first gearing, but when you tow something it makes it fantastic. The traction control is also very good and is very improved on what I had on the D2.

dullbird
18th April 2009, 05:25 PM
had a lot of trouble with ours in regards to engine because of water in the fuel.....lot of backwards and forwards to the dealership. In the early stages of ownership the car had in fact been with the dealer more than it had been with us very frustrating.....

are we pleased with it? Absolutely

would we buy it again knowing? in a heart beat:)

You will find most people that put these cars down..including landy people in this Site don't actually own one. And most apart from 2/3 maybe that have owned a PUMA have been very happy even with the problems

JohnR
18th April 2009, 05:50 PM
Happy with it YES !! :D

Lov'n it YES!! :D:p

Would we buy another YES but it would be a pain swaping all the extra's over but I am sure we will :)

Towing very good we've had our's in soome very tough area's with camper attached :eek::cool:

Pic's attach of today when we did a bit of a test load for the Cape trip in two and a bit months. Can't wait :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/10/325.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/655.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/04/656.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/10/77.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/09/572.jpg

Get one you wont regret :)

P.S. My wife loves it and I have to plea to get a drive :angel:

Cheers,

SVX37
18th April 2009, 06:16 PM
Hi JohnR - mate I like your rig and the whole set up! The Cape Trip sounds awesome. This is someting I plan to do in the next few years. Just a quick question about the lights on the roof - can you provide some info for me please. Where from? Cost? Do they work as good as they look? Cheers,:)

Lionel
19th April 2009, 11:21 AM
had a lot of trouble with ours in regards to engine because of water in the fuel.....lot of backwards and forwards to the dealership. In the early stages of ownership the car had in fact been with the dealer more than it had been with us very frustrating.....


This problem has been pretty well covered in this and other LR forums, but has the reason for the Puma's susceptibility to water in the fuel compared with the TD5 been firmly established? My understanding is that the fuel tank breather setup is identical between the two engine types. Is this the case?

Cheers,

Lionel

dullbird
19th April 2009, 12:08 PM
This problem has been pretty well covered in this and other LR forums, but has the reason for the Puma's susceptibility to water in the fuel compared with the TD5 been firmly established?
My understanding is that the fuel tank breather setup is identical between the two engine types. Is this the case?
Cheers,

Lionel

I'm not 100% sure I had heard that tghe puma had no sort of valve with in the goose neck where as the td5 did.....also there had been a case where some where the fuel filler caps had changed with in a year range and this cap being more susceptible to allowing water to be drawn in through it if the breather is blocked.

it is or was situated in the same place as the TD5 I believe BUT ours in particular a long with a few others where not laying flat against the chassis and where hanging directly over the back wheel taking up spray of the wheel in heavy rain

Xavie
19th April 2009, 12:12 PM
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Would you buy one again given the knowledge you have gained from your current vehicle.



No way!

Those Toyota LC 70's are lookin pretty good though.

sashadidi
19th April 2009, 01:38 PM
No way!

Those Toyota LC 70's are lookin pretty good though.
Really!!! As I have quoted before a coalmine here in New Zealand brought 10 v8 series 70 cruisers about 15months ago, (same drivers and conditions as before with hi luxes and defenders which were much more reliable) and 5 have had the engines replaced!!!
JD power survey in the USa, Toyota is down to 4th and plunging,
Threy are no better or worse, the New v8s are just as prone to
bad fuel problems etc as TD4 see any africian forum on this
when a car is bad ,its bad full stop:wasntme:

JohnR
19th April 2009, 07:40 PM
Hi JohnR - mate I like your rig and the whole set up! The Cape Trip sounds awesome. This is someting I plan to do in the next few years. Just a quick question about the lights on the roof - can you provide some info for me please. Where from? Cost? Do they work as good as they look? Cheers,:)


Hey SVX37, We made the light bar ourselfthe spotties are Hella Comet FF Serries Halogen Driving Lights. As for how they work I am still working on that! Half the wiring is done but I still have a bit to go before I see the Roo's flinch :twisted:

Cheers,

rainman
1st May 2009, 12:19 PM
Hey JohnR. That is a nice set up! What does it say on your fence - I can't quite read it? :D

JohnR
1st May 2009, 09:04 PM
I says rainman is a hack! :)

RMB3218
4th May 2009, 01:50 PM
No way!

Those Toyota LC 70's are lookin pretty good though.


As another who used to own a 07, No way! I can possibly live with a car being a lemon, but not with no backup from dealership or from LRA