02 Defender 130 TD5 CrewCab

[Fraz]

Hi guys,

Newbie to the forums, thought I would ask around before acting on what seems to me like a good looking machine.

As the title says, its an 02 defender. It has factory aircon, bull bar, winch, roofracks etc - what seems like more than i will need.

Through a LR dealer, he wants about $24k for it - 160K kms. I will talk it down though. Will be getting a 3rd party vehicle inspection done on it first.

I guess my question(s) is/are: How can i be sure that its a great deal? Is there any common faults with this model? Anything at all that I should look out for?
Looked on Redbook, seems that he would have only traded it for somewhere around 16-17k (because of the extras i would imagine).

Please post anything that you think I should be aware of - no matter how small :)

Cheers

[spudboy]

Price is a tad high, but not ridiculous. The options will push up the price a bit, esp if it has a good winch, or long range tanks etc.

Common problems to search for (here on AULRO) would be:
o Oil pump bolt (TD5 no-so-common issue on the older ones, but has been heard of on a few later ones)
o Oil in the loom (much more common - easy fix for a couple of hundred bucks)
o Fuel reg on the rear of the engine (Leaks)
o Fuel pump seems to go around 100-120K Kms. At 160K has prob been replaced.
o Chassis cracks, if it has had a hard life.

That's the ones that come to mind initially.

If it has got a full LR service history then you're onto the right sort of vehicle.

HTH
David

[rijidij]

If you have a pre-purchase inspection done, I would suggest taking it to an independent Land Rover specialist, or at least someone who really knows Landys. It's no point taking it to someone who'll just look at the same things as looking at any old car, you need someone who knows the specific problems with this model.
I live in Vic, but if you tell us what area of NSW you live then others on here might have some suggestions of where to take it for an inspection.

Cheers, Murray

[lardy]

Price is a tad high, but not ridiculous. The options will push up the price a bit, esp if it has a good winch, or long range tanks etc.

Common problems to search for (here on AULRO) would be:
o Oil pump bolt (TD5 no-so-common issue on the older ones, but has been heard of on a few later ones)
o Oil in the loom (much more common - easy fix for a couple of hundred bucks)
o Fuel reg on the rear of the engine. Leaks.
o Fuel pump seems to go around 100-120K Kms. At 160K has prob been replaced.
o Chassis cracks, if it has had a hard life.

That's the ones that come to mind initially.

If it has got a full LR service history then you're onto the right sort of vehicle.

HTH
David

do you get chassis cracks on all 130's ??

[justinc]

24K isn't too bad if you factor in the lack of availability of a GOOD 130. IMHO the 02 is the better one as it should still have the sals rear differential. (Changed LATE 02 to a useless P38a girlie diff)
MAKE SURE it is inspected thoroughly by a actual LR specialist prior to purchase.
If all looks good, they are a good model, chipped they will make a fantastic towing tourer:cool:


JC

[Fraz]

All very good points - thanks guys

The truck is For sale in Vic, any ideas on where they should take it?
Keep the suggestions coming :)

[justinc]

do you get chassis cracks on all 130's ??

Not all, but yes seen a few over the years, even some 110's too. Up where the A frame support crossmember is attached to the top of the chassis rails each side they can form cracks as this part of the chassis is very rigid.

Has to have had a pretty hard time of it though.

JC

[abaddonxi]

Dunno if LR dealers do this for anyone, or only for those that bought a RR new from them, but I know a bloke who took a Defender he was considering purchasing in for a once over. They went over it, and discounting the dealer prices for fixing the problems they were spot on.

[spudboy]

do you get chassis cracks on all 130's ??

Nope. Just something to look out for.

I've got an ex-Telstra 130 which probably copped a flogging up in the NT being driven by people who likely hated it and it hasn't got any cracks at all. Probably wasn't overloaded though.

[Mulgo]

In September 2003 I bought my 130" CC Td5 with 55k km - no aircon - no accessories - but with still 1 yr factory warranty for $26,000 from a LR dealer. Probably done a very good deal....

[Fraz]

After further inquiries, I am no longer interested in the Defender.
Advert stated 'full service history' and when I tried to confirm weather or not it was with LR, they vanished.

Alarm bells ringing, and rang louder when he asked if I was still interested, as a deposit had been taken.

Now im onto a different one, its a year older, but the extras have pushed the price up. Longrange tank, bigger winch, air compressor, dual battery system and I have confirmed that it had a full LR history up until the warranty expired.

Does anyone know of a reputable LR inspector in the Melb area?

[aew849]

G'day,

Bought a 04 130 with 62K on the clocks. Has aircon, dual batt, side steps, roo bar and HD tow witch, AND service history with LR dealer.

Since then has a Tombie2 stage 1 chip, cleaned out airbox, K+N airfilter, safari snorkel, BFG Mud Terrains, IPF spots, chopped out the exhaust joint (under turbo) and fitted the EGR bypass kit. Driven 18000km in these 7 months between Perth and Karratha, the SW and goldfields and she goes like stink. For a barge near 2.5 tonnes and with aerodynamics of a shed, she'll do 11l/100km all day.

Yes it is noisy, dusty and comes with the ergonomics of the dark ages.

Problems:

1. Front door latches worn out and would not hold fully closed. Get any replacements through the UK parts sites as they were 50% less than Aust LR dealer (and quicker!!)

2. Found oil in coolant header tank (slimey grey emulsion)- thought it was leaking oil cooler (common fault) but after a decent flush it hasn't returned after 5000k...

3. Had to take out front headlining to tighten up roof bolts/fasteners.

4. Clutch master cylinder leaked. Replaced it and servo with recon units (stainless sleeves as the alloy bores wear out). Subsequently had to have master done again.

5. During rebuild of doors (for the new locks) found the beginnings of rust.

6. Black plastic trims such as door and aircon vents break easily. Bitch to find in the wreckers...will be heading to UK soon so might have to take shopping list.

7. Clutch spigot bearing whines when cold.


aew849
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[Fraz]

Thanks for posting that, ill look out for those problems too

[lardy]

G'day,

Bought a 04 130 with 62K on the clocks. Has aircon, dual batt, side steps, roo bar and HD tow witch, AND service history with LR dealer.

Since then has a Tombie2 stage 1 chip, cleaned out airbox, K+N airfilter, safari snorkel, BFG Mud Terrains, IPF spots, chopped out the exhaust joint (under turbo) and fitted the EGR bypass kit. Driven 18000km in these 7 months between Perth and Karratha, the SW and goldfields and she goes like stink. For a barge near 2.5 tonnes and with aerodynamics of a shed, she'll do 11l/100km all day.

Yes it is noisy, dusty and comes with the ergonomics of the dark ages.

Problems:

1. Front door latches worn out and would not hold fully closed. Get any replacements through the UK parts sites as they were 50% less than Aust LR dealer (and quicker!!)

2. Found oil in coolant header tank (slimey grey emulsion)- thought it was leaking oil cooler (common fault) but after a decent flush it hasn't returned after 5000k...

3. Had to take out front headlining to tighten up roof bolts/fasteners.

4. Clutch master cylinder leaked. Replaced it and servo with recon units (stainless sleeves as the alloy bores wear out). Subsequently had to have master done again.

5. During rebuild of doors (for the new locks) found the beginnings of rust.

6. Black plastic trims such as door and aircon vents break easily. Bitch to find in the wreckers...will be heading to UK soon so might have to take shopping list.

7. Clutch spigot bearing whines when cold.


aew849
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Aew why dont you fill the door inners with wurths version of waxoyl should slow the rust down substantially.
And how/why did you tackle the roof bolt fasteners what is the give away that something is aray ???
would i get that on my old bus ??
before you start looking at doors, skins may be the answer although only fronts are available as PWB have ceased trading they are 100 quid each, had the possibility of 70 quid each not sure if those skins are available still ...bad news is that the rear doors come complete skin frame build ups as most supplies of PWB skins have expired