Nissans might have strong axles, but pity about the wheel studs...

[isuzurover]

Driving south on the Kwinana FWY, a GU patrol passed me - looked to be set up for touring and fully loaded.

Got about 100m in front then pulled over quickly and put the hazards on. A truck in the left lane also pulled over.

Turns out the GU had lost the left rear wheel - studs sheared. Which had then hit the truck...

[Chucaro]

Bugger, if it hapens in a populated area it may have hit a pedestrian :eek:

There is not a vehicle that do not have a weak point on it. I think that the Toyota vans have the same problem with the studs.

[BigJon]

In my experience sheared studs usually have an underlying cause.

For example, nuts overtight, nuts loose, etc.

[spudboy]

I've always like the Land Rover alloy rim wheel nuts. About half a kilo of metal in them:eek:

Compare a LR wheel nut to a Jeep's or a Toyotas. They all look puny in comparison.

[djam1]

18 year olds at the tire shop with a new found love for rattle guns and wrong torque bars.

[Rangier Rover]

That is not a one off I can tell you. The exact same thing happened to my neighbour wile he was booting it down a hill so could make it up the next hill in effect.:eek: Lost the rear wheel wile on the down hill so was hard for him to keep it strait. Had a very wild ride indeed. :eek:
This one had standard tyres and rims. Stock as a Rock as they say. He's getting rid of it and buying a Disco.:)

[Rangier Rover]

18 year olds at the tire shop with a new found love for rattle guns and wrong torque bars.
I agree with this. I go nuts if any one uses a rattler on my stuff.
With some Nissan's it is possible to miss with the rim to hub very slightly and can cause failure.

[Offender90]

Same thing happened to a friend in a 60 series landcruiser. Driving down a freeway at a 100km/h, he found one of his rear wheels overtaking him after applying his brakes. :eek:

He said it was apparently a common enough problem on the 60 series?

[JDNSW]

When I was using FJ40 and 45 Landcruisers in Central Australia in the sixties it was so common we carried a dozen wheel studs and nuts in the glovebox of each vehicle. You check them regularly and replace them as you go, that way you don't lose wheels. I remember I replaced four studs driving from Alice to Brisbane.

John

[Rangier Rover]

When I was using FJ40 and 45 Landcruisers in Central Australia in the sixties it was so common we carried a dozen wheel studs and nuts in the glovebox of each vehicle. You check them regularly and replace them as you go, that way you don't lose wheels. I remember I replaced four studs driving from Alice to Brisbane.

John


Interesting that... We have the same failures with our 45 series here:eek: They also chew out the drive flange bolts:mad:

[101RRS]

Is a design issue with Patrols fitted with alloy wheels - apparently does not happen to steel wheels.

[Rangier Rover]

Is a design issue with Patrols fitted with alloy wheels - apparently does not happen to steel wheels.

You are spot on.... This is how my neighbors failed. Must be fitted very carefully as can misalign. Bad news with a tyre change in the dark on a busy road:mad:

[PAT303]

It happens everyday,it's one of the 100 things Jap owners don't talk about,only LR's are unreliable. Pat

[Shonky]

I almost lost a rear wheel on our Patrol a few years ago. 3 studs sheared clean off - the other 3 were rattling around and only moments from letting go themselves. :eek:

Had to replace the stub axle as well as the holes had flogged out.

[scarry]

Happens on our jap work vans as well,we ALWAYS use a torque wrench on the wheel nuts....

[PhilipA]

It happened to a nice bloke in a Navara with mags on the Mitchell Falls road.
LH rear and mangled the studs.

A close friend had it happen to his GU at Barcaldine after a rotate and balance. It is suggested that the wheels can catch on the centre hub and not be as tight as intended.

I saw an interesting idea at Port Alma that I have never seen before. The rental Hilux utes have yellow plastic push on "arrows" on all the wheel studs pointing to the right into the hub. Gives a great quick visual if any have moved.
Regards Philip A

[amtravic1]

I believe this happens to all Nissan Patrols, alloy or not.
I have been reading the Patrol forum as well as Hilux and Triton for quite a while and it seems the trouble people have with Landrovers is minor compared to the trouble with the jap vehicles. Seems owners of the new Triton complain the least about problems

[hiline]

I believe this happens to all Nissan Patrols, alloy or not.
I have been reading the Patrol forum as well as Hilux and Triton for quite a while and it seems the trouble people have with Landrovers is minor compared to the trouble with the jap vehicles. Seems owners of the new Triton complain the least about problems

yeah mate but they are butt ugly :D;)
touch wood but the wife's bitsamissin has been great so far:D

[Disco_owner]

I was watching a tyre fitter use a rattle gun today when putting on new tyres on my disco and he really was going for it , I wonder if I should Undo every Nut and do it up with a Torque wrench after reading this thread.

[V8Ian]

I was watching a tyre fitter use a rattle gun today when putting on new tyres on my disco and he really was going for it , I wonder if I should Undo every Nut and do it up with a Torque wrench after reading this thread.
More like replace the studs and nuts, they could already be stretched. Tyre fitters often wreck truck studs with thier rattle guns, and they're 1 1/16" or 1 1/8".

[JDNSW]

I was watching a tyre fitter use a rattle gun today when putting on new tyres on my disco and he really was going for it , I wonder if I should Undo every Nut and do it up with a Torque wrench after reading this thread.

If you have a long enough breaker bar to undo them!

John

[Disco_owner]

If you have a long enough breaker bar to undo them!

John

I 've a Collapsable Breaker Bar , shouldn't be a problem undoing them:D

[JDNSW]

I 've a Collapsable Breaker Bar , shouldn't be a problem undoing them:D

Last time it happened to me, fortunately the next flat I had was in the carport at home - took a 3/4 drive socket with six feet of pipe on the bar to undo them. although I probably could have got them undone with the four foot bar and a hammer.

John

[PAT303]

I'm supprised so many of you let tyre fitters used rattle guns on your vehicles,I go to one place only and he uses a cordless R/Gun and torque wrench.Never have a drama. Pat