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dullbird
26th September 2009, 07:36 PM
This might seem like a dumb question....

but when painting doors, door frames and skirting boards....do you have to use gloss?

I really hate gloss don't like finish and its a pain in the arse to apply being a more oil based paint.

Also the doors etc in the house that we are going to paint are either stained or varnished (didn't look that close) just looked and saw they are all wood finish...(and not nice look either)

would we have to sand these right back to paint? or can we just rought them up and paint over the top


TIA for the advice:)

Chucaro
26th September 2009, 07:46 PM
I used low shin on my last 2 houses (water base) Semi gloss is ok as well
Just give a light sand to remove any scale or gloss patches and then if you like to have a pait surface that would last 10 years or more give oone coat of Tubmans 3 in 1 and then two coats of the finish paint.
I used Dulux for the finish coats
But what it is working for me not necessary wil be good for others ;)

Visit THIS (http://www.taubmans.com.au/paints/interior-paints/endure-doors--trim.aspx) page which it is very informative

Narangga
26th September 2009, 07:50 PM
This might seem like a dumb question....

but when painting doors, door frames and skirting boards....do you have to use gloss?


As in lip? :wasntme:

dullbird
26th September 2009, 07:57 PM
As in lip? :wasntme:

could you imagine how long that would take:D

Narangga
26th September 2009, 08:01 PM
could you imagine how long that would take:D

Keeping the lip gloss on while you painted? :angel:

V8Ian
26th September 2009, 10:01 PM
The advantage with full gloss is that it's easier to wipe clean, worth considering on doors and frames, places that attract hands.
With painting, 90% of the result is in the preparation.
It is also of utmost importance that when applying paint, be it undercoat, primer or topcoat; matt, semi-gloss or high sheen, you get the sticky side to the area to be covered.
Hope this has been helpful, remember to post photos, before, after and during; include painters.:p

abaddonxi
26th September 2009, 10:35 PM
Don't save money and buy cheap paint. Expensive paint has more pigment and stuff so takes less coats to get a good finish. More expensive brands often also aply more easily, so make the job shorter.

If you're painting gloss enamel you could try using an applicator pad rather than a roller or a brush - get the paint tray with the roller wheel to load the paint onto the pad. They give a really good finish more quickly than a brush.

And, the one time I used waterbased enamel I regretted it, maybe it's better now.

dullbird
26th September 2009, 10:38 PM
have no intention of using cheap paint.......already picked out colours in the dulux range

its just that in the uk everything was glossed when it came to doors etc...and I just hate the look of it, it may wipe clean easier but I think I would rather something be a little harder to wipe clean then look tacky....because a shiney gloss to me looks just like that tacky..

also we have always found when its time to paint again over a gloss...as it always is unless your going white but even then it always turned to an off white its a bloody bitch to paint over..and there is just as much or even more work in rubbing it down

Grockle
26th September 2009, 10:51 PM
Dulux do satin gloss Lou,we use it keeps the colour and easy to wipe down.

MickS
26th September 2009, 10:55 PM
Lou, you can get water based gloss...cleans up in h2o and doesn't have the same smell that lingers.

dullbird
26th September 2009, 11:32 PM
Dulux do satin gloss Lou,we use it keeps the colour and easy to wipe down.


Lou, you can get water based gloss...cleans up in h2o and doesn't have the same smell that lingers.

But is it shiny???

Grockle
26th September 2009, 11:41 PM
But is it shiny???

It's a semi matt gloss,is the best discription of it.

V8Ian
26th September 2009, 11:44 PM
It's a semi matt gloss,is the best discription of it.
You mean half shiney, like a car that has spent five years in the sun. (not a Japper, it would be peeling)

Grockle
26th September 2009, 11:47 PM
You mean half shiney, like a car that has spent five years in the sun. (not a Japper, it would be peeling)

sort of,abit shinier than a Ford Capri 3000 GXL(mat black)bonnet or rear panel :Dremember those Ian?

V8Ian
26th September 2009, 11:51 PM
sort of,abit shinier than a Ford Capri 3000 GXL(mat black)bonnet or rear panel :Dremember those Ian?
Well, and how they handled at high speed in a strong cross wind.:oGlad there was nothing coming the other way.:angel:

Grockle
26th September 2009, 11:54 PM
Well, and how they handled at high speed in a strong cross wind.:oGlad there was nothing coming the other way.:angel:

I had a much later 2.8i not much better, more power still no ABS or TC :o

slug_burner
27th September 2009, 07:06 AM
Enamel paint is harder than modern platic paints.

The wipeability is not so much of an issue these days with many modern water clean up paints able to be wiped clean easily and not leave a glossy smear behind.

Kick boards, doors, windows and their frames used to be painted in enamel so that it is more wear resistant (harder) as they are touched and knocked more often. The smell, the clean up and the period that it takes to dry has placed enamel at a disadvantage compared to modern water clean up paints. Most painters prefer to use water based paints becuse they can get in an out in a day having put down an undercoat and two coats of paint. With an enamel they still use a water based undercoat but struggle to get the two coats on in the one day plus the clean up is more of a pain and costly having to use solvents.

A painter does not care that the paint will not last as long therefore does not worry about using enamels on high wear areas. But then again most people like to redecorate more frequently so don't care it does not last as long either.

Painting over a clear finish just requires that you key the surface so the coat you are applying has something to hold onto. Just need to make sure the surface you are painting over is in good condition and not flaking off, sanding usually sorts that out inside or a high pressure water cleaner for outside surfaces.