2 stroke in fuel

[stig0000]

there are heaps of threads on there about puting 2 stroke oil in ur fuel tank with normal deasel,

would just a lil bit of just normal engine oil hert instead of 2 stroke oil??

and what about eny other oils, has any one herd of other things people are willing to put in there tanks,

and this is on a td5?? iv tryed 2 stroke with a few tanks and it is a tiniy tenie bit smother sounding with the engine cover off, but with it on no diff at all,??

[Bigbjorn]

there are heaps of threads on there about puting 2 stroke oil in ur fuel tank with normal deasel,

would just a lil bit of just normal engine oil hert instead of 2 stroke oil??

and what about eny other oils, has any one herd of other things people are willing to put in there tanks,

and this is on a td5?? iv tryed 2 stroke with a few tanks and it is a tiniy tenie bit smother sounding with the engine cover off, but with it on no diff at all,??

Distillate is a light oil with additives like butane at differing levels for startability according to season, rust inhibitors, etc. So all you are doing is adding oil to oil. Can't hurt and may improve the lubricity of current distillates.

[DougLD]

Hi All
This is new to me what amount do you add to a tank full and what benifits do you get from it.
Regards
Doug

[defend]

Hi All
This is new to me what amount do you add to a tank full and what benifits do you get from it.
Regards
Doug
i use 300ml to 70 liters of diesel,also use only semi synthetic 2 stroke oil,helps injector pump and injectors last longer,slightly better MPG,cleaner burning,less black sort from exhaust.
This is not an old wife's tale.
Mercedes use 2 stroke oil mixed in with diesel on there test cars as the "Euro"diesel is not as "slippery"as the old diesel.
Manufactures are coating moving injectors/parts in a type of Teflon to try and get pumps etc to last through there warranty periods.
The 2 stroke semi synthetic oil completely blends with the diesel.
Hope this is of some help.

[defend]

Distillate is a light oil with additives like butane at differing levels for startability according to season, rust inhibitors, etc. So all you are doing is adding oil to oil. Can't hurt and may improve the lubricity of current distillates.
There are different types of oil with different levels of ash and other additives.
All oils are NOT the same.
So you cannot just pour any oil into your diesel.

[Bigbjorn]

There are different types of oil with different levels of ash and other additives.
All oils are NOT the same.
So you cannot just pour any oil into your diesel.

Diesel engines are run on oils from distillate to the bottom grade sandy tar used in big marine engines. Lube oil is not that different from distillate and diesel engines will run quite handily on it. Consider this, you are only adding a miniscule amount of two stroke oil to your distillate and most unlikely to do any harm. Systems that clean sump oil and meter it into bulk fuel storage have been used by fleets for decades.

[stig0000]

im taking it you wouldent put just used sump oil in then,

had a frend on a farm that run out of dasel and stores all his used oil in drums,, just pumped 50L of oil into his car to get him to town and back , he sead the car ran no diffrent, and has never had a problem;);)

and so now wen the price of fuel get to hig for him he puts his old oil back into his tanks, he recons it ant gona hert it,

[Jim.]

Hi all,

I add 300ml 2 stroke per full tank of deisel in my 98 Disco 300tdi, there is no dought in my mind that it runs smoother and quieter.
I read about others doing it on another forum and thought why not. I'm convinced that it has increased my cars performance; however I have no way of quantifying this.
My tdi has 210k on the clock and its running the best its ever been.
mighten't suit others but it works for me:)

Regards to all Jim

[DougLD]

Hi All
I am going to try it when I fill the tank next time i have now read a few threads on different forums and i have not seen anyone saying that it has damaged the engine. Mostly good reports so I will try it.
Regards
Doug

[PAT303]

I'm one of the biggest critics of this type of thing mainly because I see and have to fix the end result of a lot of these practises.I would advise that only 2 stroke oil be used and only in small amounts,remember that most of these idea's are there to make savings,savings that are no where near covering the cost if things go wrong. Pat

[uninformed]

im taking it you wouldent put just used sump oil in then,

had a frend on a farm that run out of dasel and stores all his used oil in drums,, just pumped 50L of oil into his car to get him to town and back , he sead the car ran no diffrent, and has never had a problem;);)

and so now wen the price of fuel get to hig for him he puts his old oil back into his tanks, he recons it ant gona hert it,

Im calling BS on this one. I cant see how used engine/diff/gear oil is going to go through a fuel pump and filter and make a modern diesel work.

i could be wrong

serg

[Bigbjorn]

Im calling BS on this one. I cant see how used engine/diff/gear oil is going to go through a fuel pump and filter and make a modern diesel work.

i could be wrong

serg

See posts 2 & 6 in this thread. Also consider that many fleets installed systems that filtered and separated water etc. from used oils and metered it into their bulk fuel storage. Diesels used to be called oil engines.

[uninformed]

See posts 2 & 6 in this thread. Also consider that many fleets installed systems that filtered and separated water etc. from used oils and metered it into their bulk fuel storage. Diesels used to be called oil engines.

yes and there is alot of difference between what Roudof Diesel first built and a modern deisel injection fuel at 20,000psi. Again those marine engines are alot different internally th whats in a LR....im not saying that 2 stroke doesnt work as a percentage of the diesel, im saying filling your fuel tank with used motor/diff oil would suprise me if the engine fired.

Serg

[DeeJay]

Looking at it from my experience working for a major chainsaw manufacturer, we loved it when people used normal engine oil instead of 2 stroke ( especially with other brands) in their fuel mix because it usually got them through the warranty period before the motor "wore out".
Basically, 2 stroke oil is designed to burn off and engine oil is designed not to.
You get carbonning up & fouled plugs in a chainsaw, I cant comment on what the result of putting engine oil in a diesel combustion chamber will be, but run of the mill engine oils in general have gone from SD to SF rating in the last 20 years.

[Bigbjorn]

Looking at it from my experience working for a major chainsaw manufacturer, we loved it when people used normal engine oil instead of 2 stroke ( especially with other brands) in their fuel mix because it usually got them through the warranty period before the motor "wore out".
Basically, 2 stroke oil is designed to burn off and engine oil is designed not to.
You get carbonning up & fouled plugs in a chainsaw, I cant comment on what the result of putting engine oil in a diesel combustion chamber will be, but run of the mill engine oils in general have gone from SD to SF rating in the last 20 years.

I can refer you to people, truck and small craft operators, who have been pouring crankcase and transmission drainings into their fuel tanks for decades without filtering and separating first. Most of them swear that a good whack of old black oil in the tanks gets rid of diesel snot. Diesel engines run on oil, whether distillate or other. Why do you think a diesel engine "runs away" when it starts inhaling crankcase oil or fumes.

[DeeJay]

I can refer you to people, truck and small craft operators, who have been pouring crankcase and transmission drainings into their fuel tanks for decades without filtering and separating first. Most of them swear that a good whack of old black oil in the tanks gets rid of diesel snot. Diesel engines run on oil, whether distillate or other. Why do you think a diesel engine "runs away" when it starts inhaling crankcase oil or fumes.


It still stands to reason that modern engine oil have additives that are there to extend the life of the oil, whereas 2 stroke oil is designed to burn cleanly.

[DougLD]

Hi All
Well the first tank has been run through the Disco and i will say that the engine ran considerably quieter no increase in power if not a slight loss. I might try it with less oil than what was said on some forums and see if it works any better.
Regards
Doug

[AKW]

As i said in the outher thred, at work they filter to 1 micron the
engine oil (semi syn castrol) have been so for about 4 years,
and drop it in the tanks on the truck.
The c15 cat i drive has 930000 km and still runs at 400 to 500 kpa
oil pressure, never been opened up.

I have been useing 2st oil in my old tractor for about 2 months now
no noticable power diff it did not blow much smoke before,no diff.
It has slowed the fuel leaking out the fuel pump seals though.

In my '93 200tdi....it seems to have reduced the smoke with
heavy accelration, may be a bit quieter can not measure it
will keep using it (2st oil) for now.

Andrew

'93 200tdi disco
'65 "88 s2a

[uninformed]

As i said in the outher thred, at work they filter to 1 micron the
engine oil (semi syn castrol) have been so for about 4 years,
and drop it in the tanks on the truck.
The c15 cat i drive has 930000 km and still runs at 400 to 500 kpa
oil pressure, never been opened up.

Andrew

'93 200tdi disco
'65 "88 s2a

are they filling the tanks with the oil, or just adding it to the diesel?
are these engines delivering the fuel at high pressure like common rail etc?

Serg

[AKW]

The oil is put in the 900ltr fuel tanks with the fuel,
it takes 3 or 4 days untill all the oil is gone.
Not common rail, but high pressure unit injectors.
Over head cam, just like td5 only bigger.


Andrew

[uninformed]

i have no problem with the idea of mixing some with the fuel, but someone said they filled up and empty tank with used motor oil.........so who is going to run out and do that on a modern diesel? have at it if youd like to prove me wrong

Serg