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Rangier Rover
18th November 2009, 11:56 AM
As some of you know I'm trying to replace our family tractor atm.
The new Defender 110 comes in at 54K on the road but the Rangie and D4 go for 75k up new so are out.

I'm a bit put off by Land Rovers warranty. 3yrs and 20,000 km :( Also the little 2.4 only produces 90kw and 360nm. It may battle towing over 2.5 tons in the hills here.

My other choice for new inevitably is a jap duel cab that's now built in Thailand:eek: Cars are no use to us here:(

Should I just wait for a nice D3 or L32 to come up soon?

I don't like either choice much for various reasons but the main one is warranty on the new. Problem with second hand is the investment allowance does not apply so will work out dearer than new in the long run:mad:

What do you think?

I'll get flamed here,but........ Looking hard at the new MN Triton GLX-R with luxo pack atm.:eek:



Tony:angel:

Scouse
18th November 2009, 12:02 PM
I'm a bit put off by Land Rovers warranty. 3yrs and 20,000 km :( Where did that come from?
It's 3yr/100000km.

Rangier Rover
18th November 2009, 12:08 PM
Where did that come from?
It's 3yr/100000km.

The dealer at Dubbo NSW:confused: I didn't think that could be right. We need to talk again:D

abaddonxi
18th November 2009, 12:11 PM
Sounds like you need to borrow a demonstrator with a tow pack for the weekend.

Rangier Rover
18th November 2009, 12:14 PM
Speaking of dealers Dubbo have just renewed another 3yr contract with Land Rover so happy about that. Only 158kms door to door.
This will make a big diference with my decision on Land Rover now.:)

Rangier Rover
18th November 2009, 12:17 PM
Sounds like you need to borrow a demonstrator with a tow pack for the weekend.
To right. Or borrow a car trailer with a broken Toyota on it for the test run:twisted:

Rangier Rover
18th November 2009, 08:57 PM
We are off to Sydney tomorrow arvo for various reasons for a few days so will be having a good look at the Defender as well as other rivals wile down there. So long as my wife likes it to drive and the kids have enough room in the back will be a good start.;) Then the performance side when towing:eek: Not sure how I'm going to find out about that yet. The main one is a double fart cart with two large hay burners on. My 4BD1T does it quite well so can the postman van engine keep up in this part? I'd think it would leave the 4BD1T otherwise.
Just doesn't look good on paper to me. All in the gearing I hope.

SVX37
22nd November 2009, 06:47 AM
I agree the numbers do not look flash on paper and concerned me as well. Having had my Puma now for 6 months with a few off road excursions thrown in including the High Country in VIC and the soft sand in Robe in SA..........the engine and gearing work a treat and never found myself looking for more power. In fact, many places I never even engaged low range, 1st high up some very soft high hills.

p38arover
22nd November 2009, 07:09 AM
I'll get flamed here,but........ Looking hard at the new MN Triton GLX-R with luxo pack atm.:eek:



Tony:angel:

In your location, it makes perfect sense to look at a non-LR vehicle. Is the Triton a diesel?

dmdigital
22nd November 2009, 07:22 AM
You may need to check the towing capacity of the Triton. It's only 2.7t for the 4x4 dual cab diesel and 3t for the single cab.

87County
22nd November 2009, 07:41 AM
As some of you know I'm trying to replace our family tractor atm.
The new Defender 110 comes in at 54K on the road but the Rangie and D4 go for 75k up new so are out.

...............


I'll get flamed here,but........ Looking hard at the new MN Triton GLX-R with luxo pack atm.:eek:



Tony:angel:

Have you looked hard enough to see how fugly they are?:)

Take a look at the Ford/Mazda equivalent (still Thai), at least it looks better than a Triton, but having said that, the mitsus around here seem to be trouble-free

Bigbird
25th November 2009, 07:58 AM
I agree the land rover for towing is not the greatest but does get the job done,i have a 300tdi defender auto and towing a 20 foot boat she doesnt like it much,in saying that i wouldnt get rid of my landy as its offroad performance is awesome and has great fuel economy also i am 6'5" tall and there is not a lot of room left in the cab once i am in there,i have a mate with a new triton diesel,it goes real well but damm its ugly,i dont like mitsubishi diesel engines i am a ex diesel mechanic and mitsu diesels were not the most robust of engines,i have another mate with a BT50 and that thing flies!! awesome performance from the variable geometry turbo 3 ltr but when towing his camper trailer it really chews the diesel.
Land rover defender with a 3ltr 4D4 style hilux power plant with an auto option would be great if land rover ever produced such a vehicle i think they would sell a lot more and they would be the ultimate tow vehicle....Wes.

firsttimedefender
3rd December 2009, 10:50 AM
I just bought my defender in September 09 and tow 2t workman's trailer, have tools/fridge in the back, and two & half fatboy workers everyday. I reckon it tows better than anything I've tried. I put polyair-bags to help with the ride too.
My mate has a manual Nissan patrol which he uses for furniture removal and tows about the same. We keep up with him and use less fuel (but I'm less lead-footed than him)
Both good tow vehicles.

dullbird
4th December 2009, 06:32 PM
I agree the land rover for towing is not the greatest but does get the job done,i have a 300tdi defender auto and towing a 20 foot boat she doesnt like it much,in saying that i wouldnt get rid of my landy as its offroad performance is awesome and has great fuel economy also i am 6'5" tall and there is not a lot of room left in the cab once i am in there,i have a mate with a new triton diesel,it goes real well but damm its ugly,i dont like mitsubishi diesel engines i am a ex diesel mechanic and mitsu diesels were not the most robust of engines,i have another mate with a BT50 and that thing flies!! awesome performance from the variable geometry turbo 3 ltr but when towing his camper trailer it really chews the diesel.
Land rover defender with a 3ltr 4D4 style hilux power plant with an auto option would be great if land rover ever produced such a vehicle i think they would sell a lot more and they would be the ultimate tow vehicle....Wes.

problem is thats not (well I dont think so) a fair comparison as they have different engines and gearboxs with different gearing...

Ian came home the other week saying he wasn't impressed with the towing from the puma he said it sat at 80 up hills etc but wouldn't pull away from that not struggling just didn't really want to pull.....he then came back to me and said after talking to someone without realising he reckon he was pulling a smidge over 3.5ton in which he then very promptly said he thought it had towed bloody well considering the weight.