MAXI DRIVE FLANGES

[jx2mad]

What is a couple of maxi flanges worth? I have just been quoted $150 a side. Jim

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:o:o:o:o

[Psimpson7]

Is that Maxi or HyTuff?

[buzz66]

Les Richmond has them for $130 each, there's enough to buy a case of **** for ya, gota be happy with that.:twisted:
.
Or $127.55 at Graham Cooper Automotive.

Or 90 British Pounds a pair at Ashcroft in the UK.

[Jeff]

I've seen lookalikes on Ebay for that much a pair. Don't know if they are as good.

Land Rover Defender Heavy Duty Axle Drive Flanges - eBay Other Suspension, Steering, Suspension, Steering, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 06-Dec-09 11:51:17 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Defender-Heavy-Duty-Axle-Drive-Flanges_W0QQitemZ220506351397QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item335733e725)

Jeff

:rocket:

[buzz66]

I've seen lookalikes on Ebay for that much a pair. Don't know if they are as good.

Land Rover Defender Heavy Duty Axle Drive Flanges - eBay Other Suspension, Steering, Suspension, Steering, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 06-Dec-09 11:51:17 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Defender-Heavy-Duty-Axle-Drive-Flanges_W0QQitemZ220506351397QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item335733e725)

Jeff

:rocket:

Those FLEABAY ones look like plastic to me they are definately not Ashcroft ones.
If they are from a UK manufacturer and I doubt it, they are only mild steel.
You can tell just by looking at them.

This is the FLEABAY one.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/535.jpg


.
.
.
And this is the Ashcroft one.
.
.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/505.jpg

[taff]

cant remember what he sells them for, but the hi-tuff ones aint worth the money.
the last set i bought i had to open all the holes up by 1mm to get the bolts through and i've even got shot of their axles cos they're not much better.:mad:
go ashcroft and know you've got something that is worth the money!

[GuyG]

cant remember what he sells them for, but the hi-tuff ones aint worth the money.
the last set i bought i had to open all the holes up by 1mm to get the bolts through and i've even got shot of their axles cos they're not much better.:mad:
go ashcroft and know you've got something that is worth the money!

Wouldn't that just be the difference between the flanges that suit classic rangies vs flanges that fit disco's - the discos have a larger diameter bolts. maybe you bought/were sold the wrong ones

[GuyG]

Those FLEABAY ones look like plastic to me they are definately not Ashcroft ones.
If they are from a UK manufacturer and I doubt it, they are only mild steel.
You can tell just by looking at them.

This is the FLEABAY one.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/535.jpg


.
.
.
And this is the Ashcroft one.
.
.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/505.jpg


The Ebay ones look like the earlier MD ones as they were narrower, they then changed to be longer ie more spline length and also scooped out between the bolts

I've just been through a lot of this as I've just about completed a rebuild

[Psimpson7]

Must admit I was pretty happy with the HyTuff rear axles and flanges I fitted a few days ago.

These are the thicker Hytuff ones:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/11/534.jpg

[Lotz-A-Landies]

cant remember what he sells them for, but the hi-tuff ones aint worth the money.
the last set i bought i had to open all the holes up by 1mm to get the bolts through and i've even got shot of their axles cos they're not much better.:mad:
go ashcroft and know you've got something that is worth the money!How do you work that out? :confused:

The bloke who used to work for Mal Storey making Maxi-Drive Axles is the same bloke that is Hi-Tough who now makes them for himself and they are made out of the same material, using the same brooches to cut the splines and heat treated in the same place.

Re the flanges: they are designed to be a press/tolerance fit onto the halfshafts and any movement you have in the flange bolts is movement on the halfshafts. Do you know that your flange bolts have not been replaced with non-genuine items? In which case you would have to blame the bolt manufacturer and not Hi-Tough.

Diana

BTW: I'm not suggesting that Ashcroft gear isn't good, it is just that I don't understand how Hi-Tough could be different to Maxi-Drive. However I will disclose that I have good dealings with both Maxi-Drive and Hi-Tough.

[long stroke]

By the looks at half the price the ebay ones look pretty good to me:angel:

[MacFamily]

I bought a pair from British Offroad 12 months ago for $120 each if that helps.

They maybe more expensive now.

[taff]

i bust a hi-tuff axle on the weekend and have now picked up a set of ashcrofts the difference in quality is visable. the splines on my hytuffs had been over cut and ran through into the shoulder.
i'm pretty easy on the right foot and wasn't doing anything really extreme yet broke one and have a mate with ashcrofts who couldn't be heavier on the loud peddle if he tried, but as yet has had no issues and has had his fitted perhaps 5 times longer than i had mine.
if you can go the ashcrofts - you won't regret it, but you may if you go the other way!



BTW: I'm not suggesting that Ashcroft gear isn't good, it is just that I don't understand how Hi-Tough could be different to Maxi-Drive. However I will disclose that I have good dealings with both Maxi-Drive and Hi-Tough.

perhaps the guy who used to do the work is now in charge and has got an apprentice to now do the work. :confused:

[isuzurover]

i bust a hi-tuff axle on the weekend and have now picked up a set of ashcrofts the difference in quality is visable. the splines on my hytuffs had been over cut and ran through into the shoulder.
i'm pretty easy on the right foot and wasn't doing anything really extreme yet broke one and have a mate with ashcrofts who couldn't be heavier on the loud peddle if he tried, but as yet has had no issues and has had his fitted perhaps 5 times longer than i had mine.
if you can go the ashcrofts - you won't regret it, but you may if you go the other way!



perhaps the guy who used to do the work is now in charge and has got an apprentice to now do the work. :confused:

That is interesting - any pics of the broken HTE axle???

HY-TUFF/HI-TOUGH/AMS6418 is a superior steel alloy to that used by Ashcroft and others. However - MD used to be about $700/pr for axles, and now HTE are less than the competitionj (so I have heard). That makes me wonder if HTE are still using the same material...

Rovertracks are the next cheapest after HTE... Might spend some money with Keith...

[Psimpson7]

A rear kit with flanges from HTE is 775+GST.

Price quoted to me as of last week

[isuzurover]

A rear kit with flanges from HTE is 775+GST.

Price quoted to me as of last week

That sounds about right.

DaveS was quoted $490/pr front (24/23 spline) and $520/pr rear without flanges last week. I assume those prices were ex GST.

Keith (rovertracks) gave me a price of US$400/pr for fronts (24/23 or 24/30 if you want to fit toyota longfields) and ~US$120 shipping. So AU$563 landed at current exchange rates.

Jeff (McNamara) quoted me $650/pr for 24/23 and $750/pr for 24/30 in April this year. Not sure if those prices include GST or not.

Ashcroft are GBP245 + shipping for 24/23 fronts (AU$445+shipping). The 5 year warranty is impressive.

[jx2mad]

Thanks all. I might keep my grease packed bearings on the front a little longer. Jim

[BilboBoggles]

I reckon the rate of flogging of the splines might have something to do with the wheel bearings. Some of the non adjustable wheel bearings seem to have a little play in them, so I wonder if that play causes more rapid wear of the splines?

I know my TD5 defender flogged the factory splines out every 50,000k's. But since having the bearings rebuilt to county spec, ie adjustable, and fitting a cheap set of drive flanges from the UK - it's done 60,000ks already and no visible wear. The original wheel bearings had a fair bit of slop in them from new, so I have a pet theory it was the loose bearings causing the spline wear.

[Landy Smurf]

got ours from all 4x4 spares at newcastle for $110 for both and by the way another company took over maxi drive

[dullbird]

got ours from all 4x4 spares at newcastle for $110 for both and by the way another company took over maxi drive

NO one took over Maxi drive barry started hytuff as another company making the old maxi axles and flanges.

as for the cheap ones talk about above....I have them I paid 140bux for the pair nothing wrong with them...and great if you want to go oil fed and much better then the stupid little rubber end caps that can get knocked off or split.

I also have maxi flanges on the rear and the maxi's are much chunkier and stick out further.....and no mine are the old ones as they do not have the cut outs for the alloy wheels...even though my old ones fit with the alloys (just tight). Also just so people know the cheaper ones fit under the factory alloys and you don't need to remove the centre cap like you do with the maxi's:)

(this is on my disco but I'm pretty sure they are the same for both in the earlier models)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

got ours from all 4x4 spares at newcastle for $110 for both and by the way another company took over maxi driveNO one took over Maxi drive barry started hytuff as another company making the old maxi axles and flanges.
<snip>As DB says, Barry whom I chose not to name took over the production of the axles and flanges under his own company Hi-Tough.

MR Automotive took over production of other Maxi-Drive accessories such as the alloy rear upper tailgates for RRc and the Maxi track rods and drag links etc.

No one has yet purchased the rights to manufacture Maxi-Drive diffs etc. However this may happen in the future.

[isuzurover]

No one has yet purchased the rights to manufacture Maxi-Drive diffs etc. However this may happen in the future.

You may wish to check here:
Outer Limits 4x4 Board :: View topic - Maxi Drive Lockers will be in production shortly (http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ftopic192316.php)


well guys , I have to be the first , I've placed my order for front Maxi Drive locker with upgraded CV's axles and flanges from MR earlier in the week . They had a brand new Unit in the shop and I took this opportunity and went for it. :twisted:

[GuyG]

As DB says, Barry whom I chose not to name took over the production of the axles and flanges under his own company Hi-Tough.

MR Automotive took over production of other Maxi-Drive accessories such as the alloy rear upper tailgates for RRc and the Maxi track rods and drag links etc.

No one has yet purchased the rights to manufacture Maxi-Drive diffs etc. However this may happen in the future.


Diana, I think if you actually speak to Warren at MR Automotive you will find that they have in fact purchased the rights to manufacture the maxidrive lockers etc

The below is copied from their website:

Maxi - Drive Products.

M.R. Automotive are now manufacturing and distributing selected Maxi-Drive products along with our own specialised Landrover accessories.
Products include:

Ball Joints
T Pieces
Thrust Washer Sets
Track Rods
Drag Links
Idler Pulleys
Brass Bungs
CV Antiburst Rings
ABS Rings
Brass Window Rollers
Brass Bleed Screws
300 TDi Timing Cover Bearings
Extended A-Frame Ball Joints

[George130]

I paid $110 last year for a flange after loosing one on that fatefull VIC trip.
I was told the only issue with my replacement is it won't allow the alloy rims but with a 130 that wasn't a problem.