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philco
6th December 2009, 12:43 AM
I was talking to a guy today that runs a fleet of lease vehicles and he was telling me they lease a lot of defenders out west to companies etc, the reports are they are good but a little under powered and Land Rover Australia have had so many enquiries for more power for the defender that they are developing the new 3.0 twin turbo v6 to go into our range here, It is expected to be released mid 2010 and i was wondering if any one else had heard anything or not?

PAT303
6th December 2009, 12:51 AM
I find that hard to believe.What I do think is that the new 2012 defender will be a rebodied disco 3-4 platform with the 2.7 TDV6,if priced right it would be an instant success. Pat

philco
6th December 2009, 01:00 AM
if it is true i think it would take a lot away from the jappers market share.

JDNSW
6th December 2009, 07:44 AM
I find this very difficult to believe, particularly the time frame. If a new engine were proposed for mid 2010, as an Australian special, there would have to be some running round testing by now and getting approval for ADRs, and I would be surprised if someone on here had not seen one if that were the case. For mid 2010 release, they would have to be tooling up for production - which would need to be done overseas as I don't believe they have the capacity to do it in Australia now.

I suspect it is a "possibility" for the Defender replacement 2012 or later.

It seems unlikely that the present design Defender can be sold in Europe after 2012, and among the possibilities is that the existing Defender could continue for markets where it is possible to sell it. This could remove the need for a small engine as in Europe, and in turn see the V6 in the existing Defender. But this is pure speculation, and in any case would not happen before then.

John

dmdigital
6th December 2009, 07:52 AM
Also they don't move enough units in Australia to make it feasible.

Pedro_The_Swift
6th December 2009, 08:02 AM
You'd be a good person to talk on this Derick,,

do you think the PUMA is underpowered??

dmdigital
6th December 2009, 08:10 AM
No it's fine. Except when you blow an intercooler hose:(

The Puma's got a very torquey little engine and tows very well.

That said, would be even better with the 2.7 TDV6 or better yet the 3.6 TDV8:cool:

Pedro_The_Swift
6th December 2009, 08:25 AM
it does seem a natural upgrade to the 2.7,,,

maybe with the 2012 model,,,


the defenders had a few engine changes lately,,,,,:angel:

Tomo
7th December 2009, 02:23 PM
Does anybody know why LR didn't put the 3.0 TDCI engine found in the Ford Couriers into the defender? Was it too big in size? Maybe too tall?

Scouse
7th December 2009, 02:46 PM
It is expected to be released mid 2010 and i was wondering if any one else had heard anything or not?Yes, it's true.

Actually, the fitment is easier than the TATA engineers thought & the official release date will be April 1, 2010.

JDNSW
7th December 2009, 02:47 PM
Does anybody know why LR didn't put the 3.0 TDCI engine found in the Ford Couriers into the defender? Was it too big in size? Maybe too tall?

Probably because at least one European country had punitive taxation on engines over 2.5l, and fuel costs in Europe generally favour smaller engines for what is, after all, a commercial vehicle.

The Australian market is no longer large enough to justify a special model, and the Defender is unable to meet US regulations (when they did sell it there it used the petrol V8 - diesels are not popular in the US anyway).

John

incisor
7th December 2009, 04:51 PM
date will be April 1, 2010.

i hear bells...

philco
7th December 2009, 06:14 PM
Yes, it's true.

Actually, the fitment is easier than the TATA engineers thought & the official release date will be April 1, 2010.

so you have heard of a new motor for the defender range here?

Wortho
7th December 2009, 06:54 PM
the new 3.0 twin turbo v6 to go into our range here, It is expected to be released mid 2010



Yes, it's true.

Actually, the fitment is easier than the TATA engineers thought & the official release date will be April 1, 2010.


Is it just me or is this not some of the most exiting news you have heard in a long time.:D

dullbird
7th December 2009, 07:01 PM
now is scouse telling the truth or not seeing as though he has given the date of april fools day ;)

Psimpson7
7th December 2009, 07:07 PM
I reckon Scouse is joking:).... Why would they bother... the market here is so small its not really relevant.

LandyAndy
7th December 2009, 07:09 PM
They are also re-introducing the Isuzu motor in D4 on the same date:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:
Andrew

Scouse
7th December 2009, 07:52 PM
They are also re-introducing the Isuzu motor in D4 on the same date:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:
AndrewNot quite true.











































It's to be called the D4.5
:D

Psimpson7
7th December 2009, 07:57 PM
It's to be called the D4.5
:D

Which would signify its weight in tons if they were to do that:D

clean32
7th December 2009, 08:54 PM
Which would signify its weight in tons if they were to do that:D

a bit lighter, copper is heavy

djam1
7th December 2009, 09:09 PM
I was talking to a guy today that runs a fleet of lease vehicles and he was telling me they lease a lot of defenders out west to companies etc, the reports are they are good but a little under powered and Land Rover Australia have had so many enquiries for more power for the defender that they are developing the new 3.0 twin turbo v6 to go into our range here, It is expected to be released mid 2010 and i was wondering if any one else had heard anything or not?

Land Rover havent listened to its users for 50 years why would they start now.